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Double post.

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So far as I've read, while Apple will not make it impossible to run other OSs, they aren't going to go out of their way to make it easy. I'm more interested in the boot process it…

EFI seems the most likely.

Wow, just reading "BIOS" above makes me cringe...yuck.

Well - that's too bad. I would imagine that a nice apple-branded switcher to make it easy to switch to OS X, so people don't go to do something in windows and stay there. Especiall…

Quote: Originally Posted by ghporter So far as I've read, while Apple will not make it impossible to run other OSs, they aren't going to go out of their way to make it easy. I'…

Quote: Originally Posted by Xestrel Well - that's too bad. I would imagine that a nice apple-branded switcher to make it easy to switch to OS X, so people don't go to do somethi…

Quote: Originally Posted by mduell Moving from a cryptic command line using an obscure programming language to a friendly menu driven user interface is backward? I guess the iP…

The point is moot anyways. As you said earlier, Open Firmware is deader than a doornail for Intel Macs. Given that, EFI definitely looks like it's the #1 option on the list for 20…

Quote: Originally Posted by mduell It is kind of neat that you can solve the Tower of Hanoi problem in a computers firmware shell, but I have yet to see any compelling arguement…

if it looks anything like this http://www.3dnews.ru/documents/10127/4200-5.jpg I'll be buying one of the last G5's and sticking with it for the next few years keep it as close to t…

Quote: Originally Posted by sushiism if it looks anything like this http://www.3dnews.ru/documents/10127/4200-5.jpg I'll be buying one of the last G5's and sticking with it for …

Wikipedia (fwiw) says this: EFI also provides for a small shell environment. Rather than booting directly into a full OS, the EFI end user can boot to EFI shell. The EFI shell is …

Quote: and If I may ask, why is Open Firmware gone? If it's hardware independant, and Apple's got Intel making specific MBs anyway, why can't they just say 'hey, use thi…

Quote: Originally Posted by SirCastor and If I may ask, why is Open Firmware gone? If it's hardware independant, and Apple's got Intel making specific MBs anyway, why can't they…

I seem to remember folks who had the systems posting information about them, including that intel wsa providing the boards for the dev boxes. That may not mean a whole lot though.

Quote: Originally Posted by SirCastor I seem to remember folks who had the systems posting information about them, including that intel wsa providing the boards for the dev boxe…

Quote: Originally Posted by Eug Wanker Yeah, it's not pretty either, but I'm sure that Apple could do something much nicer and user friendly. Just as Open Firmware isn't sh…

Quote: Originally Posted by sushiism if it looks anything like this http://www.3dnews.ru/documents/10127/4200-5.jpg I'll be buying one of the last G5's and sticking with it for …

Quote: Originally Posted by Eug Wanker EFI is Intel's baby. They probably heavily encouraged Apple to use it, and Apple agreed. As long as it provides similar functionality in …

As much as I would love Apple to adpot the old SGI invovation on the 320 and 540 workstations using a firmware driven scheme to run and boot x86 hardware from that model, it looked…