Seems to be a misunderstanding: I was talking about OS X PB and you about OS X DP 4... BTW, I haven't seen any C++ compiler in your list and most of these tools (if not all) are al…

I was refering to OS X PB. The packages 'Developer' and 'Essentials' were installed onto OS X PB from the OS X DP4 cd. The c++ compiler is infact there, I have used it to install…

No, a lot of them weren't there before you installed the Developer.pkg from OSXDP4 CD :-) CC is the c compiler, btw, and it's definitely NOT included as standard with the PB.

Atleast we know this... If you don't want to wait for the dev cd, and 100+ MB download is a little too much for your stomach (1.e. 56k modem) - install the packages off your DP4 c…

I installed the developer tools off of the DP4 CD several weeks ago before my PB Dev Tools CD arrived. While that worked great for command line compiles, all of the IDE tools would…

I wish all of us had access to these tools. I'm trying to cross-compile a few command line and X windows apps. I got the basic cc from Darwin 1.0 (which is egcs not gcc BTW). I nee…

Quote: Originally posted by rsanford: I installed the developer tools off of the DP4 CD several weeks ago before my PB Dev Tools CD arrived. While that worked great for …

Hi, I have been trying to get X Windows to startup by issuing the startx command. I am attempting to do this from Unix command line, which can be reached by holding down the S key…

Holding down S on startup boots you into Mac OS X in "Single User Mode" -- and in Mac OS X, it's not a good thing to do. It's meant to be used for low-level repairs if your system…

Hi Marshall, I got the binaries and installed it and it worked. Thanks for replying to my post.

Anybody out there who has gotten their DevTools CD willing to post the installer somewhere so we don't have to wait several more weeks? Yes, I've read the various means of install…

Quote: Originally posted by mcdoken: Anybody out there who has gotten their DevTools CD willing to post the installer somewhere so we don't have to wait several more wee…

That would likely be illegal. Your best option is to become an online ADC member (0 cost) and wait till the middle of October when they post them online. You will still need your…

Does anyone know what the differences between the online downloadable version and the mailed-out CD are likely to be? I don't mind paying $30 for the beta, and downloading the dev…

$0 to join ADC my ass! Even for a student membership they want $99, please direct me to where they are giving away ADC memberships....

its $0 to setup an ADC account, not to get the mailouts etc, you still get the ADC newsletters etc, and you have access to the ADC downloads section. I am using this at the moment.

OK, OK. So I registered for the ADC. My point was, I didn't want to wait for the dev tools, and I didn't want to risk installing the inappropriate ones from DP4 or Darwin. I know I…

Actually... the whole "big deal" you speak of is quite a big deal for those developers who do pay whatever it is they pay to join the ADC. See, it's sort of like paying Celera Gen…

Actually... the whole "big deal" you speak of is quite a big deal for those developers who do pay whatever it is they pay to join the ADC. See, it's sort of like paying Celera Gen…

yes. It is too bad Celera Genomics is a rip-off. Random 500-basepair sequences. Nothing is put together. And if some else on site logs on, you get bumped off! What a ripoff! …

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I think that charging so much money for all these development tools is a mistake on Apple's part. Clearly, the Macintosh platform is now fighting for its life and anything Apple ca…

I think it's cool that apples posting the dev tools. The online membership is great. I'm thrilled that I get to play with this stuff without spending anything but download time. Me…

I'm currently trying to compile PostgreSQL on MacOS X Public Beta. If anyone has managed this or has any tips please contact me. bygimis@mac.com

I've compiled/used PostgreSQL on Solaris. I'd love to see PostgreSQL running OS X (remember that unlike MySQL, PostgreSQL is free for commercial use). The reason I personally hav…