Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey You want to do what? What is the "this" in that sentence? If you mean "look at this in an objective way" that is a non-answer. The…

Quote: Originally Posted by besson3c That is a very leading question. I don't think the question needs to be framed in the way you have. See, and where these conversations brea…

Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey Likewise, individual prosecutions are kept confidential. Even defense lawyers don't have access to that information. Grand jury delib…

Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey You just said that investigations into money laundering should be kept secret. That is precisely what the New York Times published thi…

Simey: there are all complicated issues, and issues which we are probably lacking a significant amount of data on to formulate an opinion we can both feel more confident about. I…

Quote: Originally Posted by besson3c I'm not resistant to law enforcement in general, but I think we have setup clear boundaries with our internal police force, more-or-less. Co…

Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey Nobody is being tortured in an investigation into money laundering. Please stick to the subject at hand. Was the New York Times right…

Quote: Originally Posted by besson3c Simey: there are all complicated issues, and issues which we are probably lacking a significant amount of data on to formulate an opinion we…

Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey Asking you an awkward question about an issue you would rather duck is not "slimy political rhetoric." However, trying to change the s…

Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey Nobody is being tortured in an investigation into money laundering. Please stick to the subject at hand. Was the New York Times right…

Quote: Originally Posted by besson3c I wasn't addressing anything you said, I was speaking in general terms. I'm not avoiding any issue. I got the impression your question was…

Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey This is frustrating because you keep changing the subject. I set the question up as discussing the fact that liberals in general seem …

Quote: Originally Posted by besson3c Why don't you post your article so that I can have a fighting chance to formulate an opinion? How old are you? www.nytimes.com. Front p…

Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey How old are you? www.nytimes.com. Front page, wednesday or Thursday. What's with the attacks Simey? If you are actually looking…

Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey How old are you? www.nytimes.com. Front page, wednesday or Thursday. Ditto www.washingtonpost.com and www.latimes.com. Maybe you h…

Quote: Originally Posted by besson3c What's with the attacks Simey? If you are actually looking for honest discussion on this, why not provide the courtesy of the article in que…

Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey It's like asking your mother to get up and get you a glass of milk. At some point, mother is going to say "go get your own damned milk…

Quote: Originally Posted by Busemann So you've taken the time to write seven long posts filled with verbal masturbation, yet you get rude and upset when people ask for a link to…

Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey So liberals, please help me out. Does the New York Times speak for you? Do you wish to condemn their position? And most importantly,…

Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey But since you are too lazy, here, wade through these 5 pages. NY Times Thanks for the link... I think that an independent securi…

Quote: Originally Posted by BRussell Since you keep referring to the NY Times, it would be nice to know what the NY Times' position really is on this SWIFT thing. The best place…

Quote: Originally Posted by besson3c Thanks for the link... I think that an independent security agency should be monitoring all bank records for significant red-flag type tran…

Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey Noone wants that to stop? Only it just did stop. It stopped because the NYT decided unilaterally to communicate the methods used to a…

Quote: Originally Posted by besson3c It is the media's job to find out what the government is actually doing, and that is the way it should be. If these boundaries were clearly …

Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey Other than the warrant requirement (it's not required by the Constitution, and Congress has not enacted a statutory one), what you are …