Thanks for that link... That is a great idea... I'm downloading it now!

I don't have VPC 3.03, but I will get it. I have already ordered the "Running Linux" and "Beginning Lunix Programing". Does it matter which version of VPC I get. DOS is the chea…

If you're planning on running the Darwin image it doesn't matter which one you get... The difference in prices is the license cost of the OS that comes with it (even though RH Lin…

Quote: Originally posted by slider: I don't have VPC 3.03, but I will get it. I have already ordered the "Running Linux" and "Beginning Lunix Programing". Does it matt…

Thanks anonymous and MadBrowser, I'll go with the redhat version, it's only alittle more after the rebate.

I wouldn't say that you should go the Linux path. It is very hard to learn. By the way, RedHat Linux is only available for the Intel-based platform. What I recommend is that you…

Problem, VPC Linux requires a 350MHz processor, I have a 333. I have an email in with Connectix to see if I can get away with it, however I don't think it is the 17MHz that will m…

slider: The Virtual PC FAQ says that Connectix found the speed of Windows 2000 to be acceptable on a 350MHz G3. Darwin (and Linux, particularly in text mode) is not nearly that re…

I have CW pro 4 that I bought for a pascal class. Do I have to buy ver 6 to get the carbon stuff?

I think your right, thanks again. slider

anoymous For a beginner to get use to Linux and do programming on it is not simple. As I recommended earlier, learn the C language on the current Mac OS first using a CW package, …

Tintim, thanks for your input. I am going the Linux path to better understand the core of OSX, Darwin. Anonymous mentioned my choice was to learn the Classic and Carbon, and/or C…

Put it this way... If you master Linux, OS X will be a breeze and you'll have a good understanding of UNIX system internals.

what is the url for that wired article? and, this is the most informative, well-thought out thread i have ever read on any bullieten board anywhere. You guys have been great to e…

Java is what you should use on Mac OS X. The complete Java Development Kit for Java 2 is on there, you get the Aqua inteface for free (when you use swing). Once you get the langua…

I was under the impression that the public beta actually had Project Builder on it, and the Java implementation was much better than DP4. If so, I'd just do that. Linux will have…

Well, I'd wager my company does more Cocoa development than about anyone ('cept maybe Stone), so I admit I'm biased... But, I don't much care for Java. Used it, wrote some code f…

I'd go simpler still: learn to write tight, complete Applescript. If you hate Applescript, programming in general will probably not appeal. If you want to work at a beginnner level…

Regarding Java vs. Obj-C: The reality of the market is that there are three primary platforms - Windows, Mac, and Linux. In order to reduce development and service costs, you wan…

Register as an Apple Developer with the free Online Membership! You will be able to download the Developer Tools to work with the MacOS X beta. The Public Beta does not include t…

Apple has been pushing Carbon as an transitory technology but they really should not be. Carbon is maturing into a lot more than a simple way to move OS9 apps to OSX. The develop…

Wow. I have half an iota of what is being discussed in this thread, but it is incredibly interesting.

I just wanted to let you guys know that the sun java tools/compiler is included with the public beta, so if you can bear the command line, you can start out developing in java with…

Carbon is the traditional MacOS 8/9 API updated for OS X. For a new programmer it has a steep learning curve. Cocoa is the traditional NeXTStep API updated for OS X. Cocoa is also…

Slider wrote (way up in this thread): Quote: OK, what would you recommend I use to learn UNIX on my Mac? I would be starting from scratch. I'm in somewhat th…