I'd just like to point out that the desktop metaphor is really just an OS hack on both the Windows and Mac sides. Obviously, files can't reside in some non-disk space (which the d…

It's this simple: The engineers working on the user interface for Windows and Mac OS X are power users. Unfortunately, they don't understand that most people who use Windows and Ma…

Yeah, that's obviously it. Apple developers just "forgot" who was using their products- they have obviously done no market research and have canned simplicity to make their jobs …

OS X has a desktop metaphor, but disks and drives do not mount on it. It is there. If you are familiar with NeXtstep/OpenStep, the desktop is essentially a shelf the covers the s…

Kudos to Orbit for understanding the value of an honest OS! I recently read that all one has to do to get to the root "computer" level is hit the big button in the finder window, …

Why thank you! Just thought of something else... as it stands right now, the desktop metaphor in both Windows and Mac OS is flawed in this way: if your desktop is cluttered (as I …

Quote: Originally posted by Orbit: .... as it stands right now, the desktop metaphor in both Windows and Mac OS is flawed in this way: if your desktop is cluttered (as …

Riiight... they will mount on the right side where they're inserted. As long as you leave them a space and don't accidentally put something in it when they're not mounted. Try th…

Quote: Originally posted by Orbit: Riiight... they will mount on the right side where they're inserted. As long as you leave them a space and don't accidentally put som…

Actually I did, but it was on my work computer- behavior wasn't working right for keep arranged by name even though it was selected. I tried it on my own computer, and I see what …

Why did you choose the MacOS in the first place? Its ease of use, its power, its appearance, and something that you just can't put your finger on. As for the ease of use, that is t…

No, YOU got the wrong impression. Nobody is saying that they got rid of the desktop- on the contrary, the desktop is still there but its behavior is, necessarily, changed a bit. …

Hi, My boss when to a retreat where Macs were used to write a report. All the Windows users were lost. They had no idea how to use the Mac UI. I think it's a over statement tha…

From what I have seen, the desktop as we know it is dead in OS X. And how the hell am I supposed to use it for a day or two? DEVELOPERS PREVIEW versions are out - I may be a progra…

Hi, OSX ... Booo hoooo hooo ... Sky is falling ... booo hooo hooo .. Birds no longer sing hoo hoo ... Can no longer use computer ... <sniff sniff> Scott H.

Quote: Originally posted by Scott_H: .... I think it's a over statement that the Mac UI is far ahead. There are _many_ problems with it. I think once someone gets use…

Okay... I would like everyone who has gripes about the UI in OS X, as it stands, to promptly shut up about it. Used the prototype interface? Great! Have a suggestion about new …

it's rediculous to think of the desktop in either win or macos as a hack. it is simply a finder/winexplorer window that displays the content of a folder. -cotton

Okay, maybe "hack" isn't the right word exactly, but it certainly isn't normal behavior per the rest of the Finder's methods. Instead of dispaying the folder and its contents norm…

Actually, I think "hack" is a great way of describing it. A hack isn't necessarily something bad, it's more of a MacGuyver-esque show of resourcefulness and an unorthodox way of s…

Quote: Originally posted by Orbit: Actually, I think "hack" is a great way of describing it. A hack isn't necessarily something bad, it's more of a MacGuyver-esque show…

thanks for the correction . . . i thought it looked kinda funky when i typed it ;-)

OK. I haven't used OS X and I'm a little wary of major changes in UI (I HATED Platinum when OS 8 came out, but now System 7 looks antiquated). However, I think OS X is very promisi…

Amen, brutha.

You make a good point about the limits of the desktop, TonyMac. The NeXTstep/OpenStep UI didn't have a desktop, rather it had "shelves" in the workspace/file browser windows (aka …