After a LOT of trying, I got Apache to install. It installs fine with PHP4 (follow the Unix installation instructions in the PHP manual at http://www.php.net/manual) but the mista…

I have had problems installing apache 1.3.12. Is there any way to install PHP 4 on the exsisting Apache on OS X PB? TIA, Peter

You're correct in that the Public Beta doesn't include developer tools. Apple will be posting the developer tools for Mac OS X public beta for download next month (you just need t…

Quote: Originally posted by Camali: From what I know, the Development Tools are not included in the Public Beta, however, are they included in DP4? If so, What do I loo…

That might work if you don't care about Interface Builder, Project Builder, or the ability to compile any Cocoa apps.

It's dirty, and isn't terribly wonderful :-) However, this is on http://developer.apple.com/membership/macosx.html - ote: The Mac OS X Beta Developer Tools will be available for…

also, to install the DP4 tools, find Developer.pkg on the UFS partition (visible in OS X) and drag it onto Installer.app then it will just install. It doesn't work perfectly tho (s…

From Apple's Project Builder web page : Download Project Builder updates will be available to download beginning in November. Project Builder will be available with releases of M…

My understanding was the ProjectBuilder et al would be available to *paying* ADC members. I.e. $500 or $2500 (or whatever it is). I hadn't gotten the impression that it would be a…

Quote: Originally posted by colossus11: My understanding was the ProjectBuilder et al would be available to *paying* ADC members. I.e. $500 or $2500 (or whatever it is).…

All ADC members ($100-$3500) or Student to Primier will get OS X PB with Developer Tools, 2 seperate cd's. However if you aren't currently a ADC member the wait is about 3-5 weeks …

I would hope soon... Since MacOS X / OS X Server is based on BSD, I would think that a port from Solaris would be much more straightforward than porting to the MacOS... The Linux p…

I think apple would include it. I mean the tools are free why not ship it and add that as an extra add on for an install. Correct me if I am wrong, but i think i am right, the GUI …

Yes, Macintosh Programmers Workshop, their classic programming environment, is availabe as a free download from Apple's developer site. You don't need to be a registered developer …

Project Builder is an IDE for free compilers and debuggers, that's true. But Interface Builder is Apple's own work (inherited from NeXT), and I don't think the specs of the nib fi…

I would highly doubt apple will see its programing tools. They would never make a dime off of it. Real developers would choose code warrior. This means apple will stick people who …

"Real developers would choose Code Warrior"?!? I guess the folks at id Software aren't real developers because they developed the Quake map editors in Cocoa (then OPENSTEP). I gu…

Most of DP4 was written using CodeWarrior. CodeWarrior does have Cocoa support in CodeWarrior 6 which is in beta. Yes real developers will use real and powerful tools to program wi…

Since when is CodeWarrior supporting Objective-C? Since when is it supporting Mac OS X nib files? These are pretty much required for a real Cocoa development environment. AFAIK,…

From what I've heard, even the MacOS Finder in OS X was built using a carbonized version of Codewarrior's PowerPlant. That really surprises me - why didn't they use Cocoa?

Ok yes DP4 was built on top of darwin. When I am talkinga bout most of DP4 I am talking about the no Darwin parts. I did hear from someone from MetroWerks that CodeWarrior will su…

The Mac OS X Finder was written in Carbon for several reasons. One was probably to prove that Carbon really is a viable API for development (since up to that point Apple was going…

And now, getting back to the original question... Quote: Originally posted by mthompson: Does anyone know if the Cocoa/Carbon developer tools will be included in the B…

WebObjects is different in the tems of what it does... That is what my point is. Think back to the old days off apple you need to use ResEdit to make your resource files. Not othe…

Quote: Originally posted by X Freedom: So my point is this. Apple sould have its tools free. CodeWarrior will make huge advances over Apple tools. Developers (the big gu…