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Wha?! Max size of signiture 255 characters!
68kMLA · Troubleshooting · 59 posts · Dec 8, 2009 — Dec 10, 2009 View original thread ↗
I just noticed that the max size changed from 500 chars to 255 chars. Why? (That'd be unconvienient if i go to edit it as my sig has exactly 500chars in it!)

What was wrong with 500chars?

Yeah, it's a change that came with PHPBB3.5 (or whatever it is.)

I had to redo my Sig.

Must have changed with the 3.0.6 update. However, 255 characters seems more than enough to me. Not sure why it was ever 500. Anyway, not my place to change it now [:o)] ]'>

So no Macintosh programmers recognize the irony?

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Str255
Hmmm... I guess my sig is never to be changed again...

:( (

Well, you could always shorten it - I think a lot of us would appreciate that..

You could also get rid of that freakin' spinning avatar....

Yeah, I don't like this new limit, my sig is about 270 characters and it's already quite compact, what happens when I want to add a machine to the list? :disapprove:

Yeah, I don't like this new limit, my sig is about 270 characters and it's already quite compact, what happens when I want to add a machine to the list? :disapprove:
You have to sell some of the others?

Yeah, 255chars is ridiculous. @Admins: could you please change it back to what it was? pretty please?

:p

And I don't see why some of you don't like my spinny avatar... it took me 3 hours to make it!

Oh, would you prefer this as my avatar?

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}:)

What was wrong with 500chars?
The fact that your signature is quite often longer (in some cases significantly longer, such as every post of yours in this thread) than your posts.

Some people are still using dial-up; and some others (such as myself) just like threads that don't have half of their page height taken up with signatures.

In general, four lines is considered to be the maximum 'polite' length for a signature. Yes, with modern wide-screen displays and small fonts, it can be easily possible to exceed 255 characters (and possibly even 500,) while staying within 4 lines (see MrMacPlus.) That said, having a fixed character limit can help to encourage shorter signatures. (And, obviously, it is possible to have a 255-line signature in 255 characters; not counting blank lines!)

Your signature is 16 lines long. Five lines detailing your machines (which could easily be placed in one potentially line-wrapping line,) one line detailing the fact that you have liberated one single 68k Mac, six lines dedicated to 'cruft', and four blank lines.

Yes, the bunny was funny the first two or three times I saw it. It's not any more. Yes, the quotes are each semi-funny. Pick one.

You could quite easily be down to 255 characters; and/or 4 lines, and avoid annoying people in the process. A quick search of your posts reveals that in the latest three pages of your posts, you have only *ONE* post with more lines of original writing of your own than your signature takes up. And it has 17 lines to your signature's 16. (In fact, if you hadn't used a double-line break in that message, it would be equal to your signature in lines.)

I am not saying that your contributions to this forum are unwelcome; not at all. I am merely pointing out that your signature is a cause for annoyance.

(Yes, I've been too lazy to make a signature on here. I suppose I'll go copy my .sig from either MacRumors or The Vintage Computer Forums...)

But my sig is in small text. compare.

This to this!

Mi sig is ~11 lines of *normal* text.

:)

But my sig is in small text. compare. This to this!

Mi sig is ~11 lines of *normal* text.

:)
So? I spend a significant amount of time browsing on a netbook. Your signature takes up HALF my screen. Seriously, don't you think that's too long? Although it's no longer really my place to enforce it, I bring your attention to The Rules on this matter:

Signatures…For the benefit of other members of the forum, especially those on small screens, please try to keep your signatures short. Having more than three or four lines is probably too much. If you really want to have a complete list of every machine you own, then your user page on the 68kMLA Wiki is probably a better place to do it. You can link to your user page using the [ wiki][/wiki] BBCode tags – see this forum topic for more information. Other URLs, images and smilies are disabled in signatures.
So, the moral of the story is keep it to three or four lines max. Please, for the sake of everyone else. Add your list of machines to a Wiki user page and make a link to that, if you really must.

Oh, would you prefer this as my avatar?
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}:)
No. We really wouldn't. Again, to quote the rules:

Avatars…We allow you to choose a small graphic to use as an avatar. However, we reserve the right to remove any image that we deem inappropriate without notice. Although animated GIFs are allowed, we discourage you from using them since they can be distracting.
Please don't use animated GIFs. It's a guaranteed way to piss everybody else off.

I don't see the apple spinning! Is that something safari does? I am sorry for the off topicness.

On Topic, is my signature OK?

Oh, would you prefer this as my avatar?
0f102a0896.png


}:)
No. We really wouldn't. Again, to quote the rules:

Avatars…We allow you to choose a small graphic to use as an avatar. However, we reserve the right to remove any image that we deem inappropriate without notice. Although animated GIFs are allowed, we discourage you from using them since they can be distracting.
Please don't use animated GIFs. It's a guaranteed way to piss everybody else off.
There's also the fact that a bright flashing avatar such as that one could be potentially hazardous to someone suffering from epilepsy or a similar disorder...while I don't think we currently have any members in that position, its certainly something to think about...

Anyway, I'd like to second Tom's recommendation to shorten your signature and think about putting your list of machines on the wiki. Really...I think by now we all know how many of what Macs you have and all, and those who don't...well, they should know where to go (the wiki) to find out.

Mars478: His avatar is an animated PNG - a format which is only supported by Firefox and maybe a couple of other browsers. Just, guys...please, just don't use animated avatars of any kind.

what happens when I want to add a machine to the list? :disapprove:
Make a wiki page and link to that.

You can do that to the Wiki? Have other's done so? I used to have my Mars478.Mine.nu website with all my macs, but links got disabled and I was nuked. I just shorted down my sig by removing spaces as you can see by it's current rev.

You can link to the wiki by putting a link inside wiki tags.

[wiki]User:Cory5412[/wiki]

I agree with the sentiment that the longest signatures and most animated avatars are not only completely unnecessary, but I'd go as far as to say extremely annoying. I'm on a 20-inch iMac right now, and this is the biggest of the computer displays I use throughout the day, and if I maximise the height of the browser on this machine, signatures can still account for approximately half of the display space.

To put it simply, what I've noticed is that signatures tend to be filled with information that, for all intents and purposes, we don't need to read underneath every single post, so I'm going to go ahead and recommend that everybody puts their machine list and quotes list on the wiki, where you can create a page that's thousands of characters long, detailing history and everything for each machine. Heck, the wiki lets you create subpages [wiki]User:Cory5412/machines/Schlangenbeschwoerer[/wiki] like this one about my old iMac.

You can do that to the Wiki? Have other's done so? I used to have my Mars478.Mine.nu website with all my macs, but links got disabled and I was nuked. I just shorted down my sig by removing spaces as you can see by it's current rev.
Yeah, of course. The only stipulation is we would ask that you keep personal content to your user page and sub-pages thereof. Aside from that, you can put anything up you want.

You can do that to the Wiki? Have other's done so? I used to have my Mars478.Mine.nu website with all my macs, but links got disabled and I was nuked. I just shorted down my sig by removing spaces as you can see by it's current rev.
you DO realise that that goes to your router login page? (NETGEAR WGR614v9)

Actually it goes to -your- router login page. That URL redirects to 192.168.1.1.

yeah i just realised that...

I dunno why it does that! DynDNS has some problems.

For info I have a Linksys Black N router.

I took the site down because it was hurting my internet because I was hosting some stuff on there.

If you're not hosting anything it's probably in your best interest to just disable DynDNS all together.

Yeah, but I want to have that URL saved once I set up my Server over in NJ where we do not use the internet over the week.

You could always put a speed cap on it.

If you have... 5mb upload, you could devote a mb or two without it making too noticible of a differance.

True. But I have 500kilobits up

So no Macintosh programmers recognize the irony?

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Str255
I do! :lol:

I don't mind the 255 character limit. It keeps sigs from being obnoxiously large and it forces people to be clever in how they list their Macs. Anything over 3 or 4 lines is obnoxious. A sig shouldn't be bigger than the average post, IMO.

So no Macintosh programmers recognize the irony?

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Str255
I do! :lol:

I don't mind the 255 character limit. It keeps sigs from being obnoxiously large and it forces people to be clever in how they list their Macs. Anything over 3 or 4 lines is obnoxious. A sig shouldn't be bigger than the average post, IMO.
-P?

If you have read the book hackers or read any hacker books you'll know what it is. LISP.

What everyone else said. Your sig is irritatingly ginormous, macgeek417, and I've been pondering pointing it out to you for a while. Please trim it.

You can link to the wiki by putting a link inside wiki tags.
[wiki]User:Cory5412[/wiki]

/

Heck, the wiki lets you create subpages [wiki]User:Cory5412/machines/Schlangenbeschwoerer[/wiki]
Thanks for the tip, Cory. I'll gradually move to that system.

what happens when I want to add a machine to the list? :disapprove:
Make a wiki page and link to that.
I might just do that, but I think a new wiki account, new page, text of that page, and a link to the page would take up more database space than an extra few characters in my signature.

How does this help?

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(O.o)
(> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Having a virus in your signature and then claiming there isn't enough room.....

True. But I have 500kilobits up
Oh? I can beat that. I have 128kbits up!

:( :lol:

How does this help?

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(\_/)
(O.o)
(> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Having a virus in your signature and then claiming there isn't enough room.....
Ha.

What everyone else said. Your sig is irritatingly ginormous, macgeek417, and I've been pondering pointing it out to you for a while. Please trim it.
Maybe I would, but 255chars is a bit small, even if I trimmed it.

If it was back at 500chars, I might trim a line or two off...

(hint, hint)

:p

:)

Oh and out of curiosity i just tried trimming a few lines from my sig but its still around 400-450chars.

It's not database space that's the problem - it's screen space. Your 300 lines of BS is just rude.

Fireball: iMac Summer 2000 - Unstable: eMac 800 - Crappaq: Compaq Presario C500, Vista Basic - Space Heater: Compaq Presario SR1110NX, MicroXP/Xubuntu 9.10 Dual-Boot - Treebark: Macintosh LCIII - 68k Macs Liberated: 1I have seen the evils in procrastination, and I vow to change my ways tomorrow.
Slightly fixed?

I'll just leave it as it is.

I'll just leave it as it is.
I hadn't noticed it before until ~tl pointed it out; but your signature is technically in violation of the Forum Rules.

I'll just leave it as it is.
By the way, this is what your post looks like on my netbook:



(Click for full size)

Your one-line post completely fills my browser window.

Oh, yeah? I'm posting this from a DS screen whch is what, 320x240?

Why are you using Internet Exploder? you should use Chrome, Safari, or Firefox.

Edit: Got on a REAL computer and edited the typos/grammer errors!

Oh, yeah? I'm posting this from a DS screen whch is what, 320x240?Why are you using Internet Exploder? you should use Chrome, Safari, or Firefox.

Edit: Got on a REAL computer and edited the typos/grammer errors!
:-p

Most of the time, I run Google Chrome on the netbook; without Flash installed. And now that the Norton trial has expired, I'm going to tempt the beast and go AV-free.

Yes, the only reason I used IE (pronounced "aaiiieeeeeee!!!", of course,) was to demonstrate the problem. Yes, I then turned on all the various bars that I normally would have off, even when I have to use IE.

I think the slightly edited version someone posted is a great idea. and get rid of the Bunny stuff.

My signature used to be like 10 lines long with EXACT info on each of my macs. it was maddening.

So do I. But, it's still over the 255 char limit... however, the one I've just imposed (as possibly one of my last gestures as an admin here) isn't [:o)] ]'>

So do I. But, it's still over the 255 char limit... however, the one I've just imposed (as possibly one of my last gestures as an admin here) isn't [:o)] ]'>
OWNED!

(No offense to MacGeek.)

Let's just disable signatures. They've been more or less whittled down to nothing (we've gone from 500 characters, smileys, and links, to 255 characters, no smileys, no links), and we're all being told to use the Wiki anyway, right? How much more are signatures going to be trimmed back? Hey, let's go to 200 characters. That seems reasonable. Or 150, that looks fine. Let's ban BBCode because it's a Wednesday and I have a hangnail!

Maybe someone can make some kind of browser add-on that automatically pastes in a fake signature at the end of every post.

Or we could all get together to whine about the terms of the free service we're using

I'm sure i'm not the only one to remember back when this place had an army motif... people actually had some clever uses for their signatures back then. Lets see more of that... while we're at it, how about the army motif back as well...

...never gonna happen. Oh well.

Or we could all get together to whine about the terms of the free service we're using
I thought that's pretty much what the entire forum was reduced to these days... or so i've been told...

Let's just disable signatures. They've been more or less whittled down to nothing (we've gone from 500 characters, smileys, and links, to 255 characters, no smileys, no links), and we're all being told to use the Wiki anyway, right? How much more are signatures going to be trimmed back? Hey, let's go to 200 characters. That seems reasonable. Or 150, that looks fine. Let's ban BBCode because it's a Wednesday and I have a hangnail!
Maybe someone can make some kind of browser add-on that automatically pastes in a fake signature at the end of every post.
Yeah. Ridiculous.

Noone complained about my sig OR avatar until just the other day.

I have a better idea: Let's make it so emoticons are auto-translated and anyone who uses one gets banned!

EDIT: ooh, ooh, ooh! How about we make the max text size of a sig: be this big!

Of course, everyone can easily read that! Seems resonable enough!!!

So do I. But, it's still over the 255 char limit... however, the one I've just imposed (as possibly one of my last gestures as an admin here) isn't [:o)] ]'>
I thought you were "not an admin anymore" and "retired"

> :(

Let's just disable signatures. They've been more or less whittled down to nothing (we've gone from 500 characters, smileys, and links, to 255 characters, no smileys, no links), and we're all being told to use the Wiki anyway, right? How much more are signatures going to be trimmed back? Hey, let's go to 200 characters. That seems reasonable. Or 150, that looks fine. Let's ban BBCode because it's a Wednesday and I have a hangnail!
Maybe someone can make some kind of browser add-on that automatically pastes in a fake signature at the end of every post.
Really, how big does your signature need to be? What do you want to put in it that could be of use that is over 255 characters? I mean, really.

Or, How about you do signitures like they do at GBAtemp.net - Make each one be a max of foo x bar pixels. If it's over that it has a scrollbar added.

Or, How about you do signitures like they do at GBAtemp.net - Make each one be a max of foo x bar pixels. If it's over that it has a scrollbar added.
Signatures are just replicated noise, they don't add anything. I suggest that 255 is too many.

Wellbythatdeffinitionweshouldjustbanuseofspacesbecausetheyarejustrepettivenoise. WeshouldalsobanuseofpunctuationandanycharactersbesidesAZand09. Whilewereatitwhynotjustbanuseofthewordsandtheimeorastheyrejustrepettivenoise.

Translation:

Well by that deffinition we should just ban use of spaces because they're just repettive noise. We should also ban use of punctuation and any characters besides A-Z and 0-9. While were at it why not just ban use of the words and, the, I, me, and or, as they're just repettive noise.

See how much space that saves? People with netbooks should just *love* that!

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WellbythatdeffinitionweshouldjustbanuseofspacesbecausetheyarejustrepettivenoiseWeshouldalsobanuseofpunctuationandanycharactersbesidesAZand09Whilewereatitwhynotjustbanuseofthewordsandtheimeorastheyrejustrepettivenoise.
Translation:

Well by that deffinition we should just ban use of spaces because they're just repettive noise. We should also ban use of punctuation and any characters besides A-Z and 0-9. While were at it why not just ban use of the words and, the, I, me, and or, as they're just repettive noise.

See how much space that saves? People with netbooks should just *love* that!

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Don't be silly. Punctuation is a vital part of ensuring the legibility of text.

It's more about the post/not-post ratio than anything else. If you have a line or two of post and 11 lines of signature (which doesn't add anything to the discussion topic) then the signal to noise ratio is pretty low.

I thought you were "not an admin anymore" and "retired"> :(
Still not quite retired yet. Still a few things to sort out. However, you'll be rid of me soon, don't worry [:o)] ]'>

I thought you were "not an admin anymore" and "retired"> :(

How rude!

anyway, yes looking back 99% of your post's are barley a full sentence and a eighth page of signature, its silly, and as already stated (and should have been the end of it) use the wiki, there you can document all your stuff to your heats content, which in the end would provide more usable info to the community.

No one's mentioned that you can actually turn of signatures (along with images, flash, smilies and avatars) in the User Control Panel (Board preferences --> Edit display options). I realize it wouldn't be necessary if everyone were polite and considerate etc, but reality is often otherwise... :(

It's more about the post/not-post ratio than anything else. If you have a line or two of post and 11 lines of signature (which doesn't add anything to the discussion topic) then the signal to noise ratio is pretty low.
And the quoted/original ratio is also a common indicator of readability and politeness.

;)

*rabble rabble rabble* :disapprove: Let's just lock this topic and call it a day.

Yeah, It's not like the Mods will change anything unless they want to. They don't have to change anything unless they want to, therefore they won't.

Personally, I think the rules should be like a democracy, but the Mods wouldn't like that because they wouldn't be able to use their power of their dictatorship.

:disapprove:

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