Not bad, I'm sure you'll enjoy.

what is X.3 install???

Panther.

Congratulations on your purchases. On the bright side you have had the extra enjoyment from your 12" PowerBook.

Yeah, not having to use a PC at work is wonderful...

Why would you install Panther on an iPod?

Am I missing something good here? I am getting a 20Gb iPod with the Cram & Jam promo with my GF iBook; and I know you can use the iPod as an starting disk right? But what is the use of this?

Let me squeez more juice of my iPod...specially now that it has 20GB instead of 10GB. Cuase to be honest I have 5GB of music more or less and the rest I was going to use for storage and transfering large files...but what use do I have of having the iPod as s startup disk?

Thanks.

You ain't just whistlin' Dixie.

Sometimes I'm jealous of the UPS guy. No computing! Not to mention the cool uniform, the kicka$$ truck, or the space age tablet.

For troubleshooting/back-ups/run disk diagnostic tools/etc.

...although I've got to run a Win98 emulator in a Linux system...for programming PICs

Running OS X of an iPod is not recommended. The disk is too slow and not meant for all that constant spinning (tight enclosure, no fan).

Get a disk warrior CD and you'll have all the troubleshooting tools you'll ever need.

(Plus you get more space for music).

Too bad you went for the 3G iPod. The button layout really suck.

The layout of the buttons on the 3G is way better than the new ones.

No way. I gave my 40GB iPod and kept my 2nd gen 20GB just for the buttons. No tactile, feedback and too sensitive touch means you always have to keep it on hold (the hold switch is more difficult to use as well) meaning no in-pocket manipulation. I hated the new button layout since the day I saw the concept sketch.

A HUGE step back in usability. Glad they came to their senses.

Perhaps, but it sure is cool to see them glowing red.

Agreed.

I'd rather have no moving parts and areas for grime and crap to get into and ruin it.

I have no problems using a 3G iPod. It really isn't that difficult.

The excuses people make to defend their choice *sigh*

I have a 2nd Generation iPod with all the moving parts ready for accepting grime. It still functions. So does my cassette recorder from the 1970's and that has almost nothing BUT moving parts to get grime and dust in. Shouldn't either of them be ruined by now? I'll take a sensible, logical button placement that I can use without looking over cool glowing touch sensitive "buttons" that give no tactile feedback whatsoever.

Sweet deal on the refurb iPod. My 2G 10GB is probably only worth about a 100$ now...

don't *sigh*

it's not that big of a deal


i do recognize the new pods as the better design. as i have the original and wondered what the F they made buttons for

Heh. Excuses? Why can't you just accept that we have a different preference?

I also prefer the 3G layout; totally awesome. Love it. Who needs pocket manipulation with a remote? Not me.

And it doesn't always have to be on hold, as just having it in your pocket, in contact with your jacket or whatever, will not trigger any of the buttons.

$150 on eBay.

Wow and I paid $450 for mine just over a year ago.

Or it could be that I just prefer the layout of the 3G.



If you're confused over the layout of 4 buttons, you have other issues that need to be addressed. And it's not too hard to tell when you pushed a button; something... /gasp... happens ! Hit Pause, the music... stops ! Go back or forward... ! You get it.

That's not the point is it? The point is that these buttons do not give tactile feedback and require your eyes to manipulate them as opposed to just using your hands. Fitt's law come to mind?

Look, I've recognized that the buttons look "kewl" and all, they just aren't that intuitive. Hence, a step back in usability.

And mind you, I've tried using both layouts. A lot.

That's a good point. I own a 3g, so I understand what you're talking about. It isn't something to get ticked off by though.

No, it's not. I was just expressing my happiness that Apple had come to their senses. If I do decide to upgrade my 2nd gen iPod anytime soon I'll know that the new layout will somewhat match the old but be even more refined.

I loved the new layout for the iPod minis, but I hated the low HD-space. Now I get the best of both worlds

Once again, why do you need "tactile feedback" when you can hear (from changes in the music) that a button has been pressed? The only time that is a problem is when you are using the "Menu" button, which you need to be looking at the screen for anyways (to chose where you want to go) on any iPod.

I still don't see how they are not intuitive, and from my standpoint offer no difference in usability between the 1g/2g and the 3g.

I think the iPod Mini's controls are awesome. If the new iPod is the same, I may be hard pressed to not get one eventually! Carrying 40GB around in your pocket is just plain awesome. Oh and the touch wheel is just so cool.

I've got it... and I love it!

Part of my pod was stolen so I'm............ 'Bidding on the dock on eBay' (Apologies!)

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