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copies of mac os you wish had been obliterated from memory
http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/syslist.html
living downloads of System 0.85 and Finder 1.0 :O :O:O
living downloads of System 0.85 and Finder 1.0 :O :O:O
Unfortunately, pretty much all of those links are dead. Why do you wish that those versions were "obliterated from memory"?
haha, some of hte key releases worked for me. when writeing topic titles for comedy i try and cover all my bases at once.
The copy of System 0.85 I uploaded a while back is still there btw, if you want it.
http://mac.profusehost.net/mac.zip
There's also a discussion thread with screenshots, very interesting. Can be found here.
http://mac.profusehost.net/mac.zip
There's also a discussion thread with screenshots, very interesting. Can be found here.
also the main reason i located that site was for the System7.1 witch i think runs very smoothly on PB100-150 computers and things like the Classic, classic II and SE/30
One system version that I know many wish was obliterated from history was System 7.5.2. Lots of people had problems with that version from what I remember reading online back then.
i've not read one positive thing about sys752, lots of good things about 753 and 755 tho
Yes, those last two were VERY good with the latter actually feeling faster than 7.5.3. Nice that Apple made those available for free, although it would be nice to see both 8.0 and 8.5 made for free as well. :-/
Not that that'll ever happen 
Sadly, you're right.Not that that'll ever happen
i've seen some petitions to apple to make 8.0-8.6.1 free for download like 7.5.5 is, not for 9.0 becasue the transition is still in effect from 9.x to 10
It's not a matter of the OS being recent or useful that keeps Apple from offering 8.x or 9.x for free (though I'm sure it doesn't hurt). Rather, both of those operating systems as shipped contain licensed code from third parties that Apple can't release for download without paying a fee to the originator of the license.
Peace,
Drew
Peace,
Drew
witch softwares would that be? i've never seen anythign that isnt otherwise released for free in there, (IE, NN, QuickTime)
Don't be too pessimistic. Cliff Johnson released his games into the world of freeware. Yes, he's a one-man operation and Apple is a huge company, but you never know. Didn't Corel make WordPerfect 3.5 for Mac free at one point?
Anyways, I do remind anyone who is looking around those sites that the only legal Mac OS to download are the ones on Apple's site.
As for system versions that we could do without, I'm surprised nobody's mentioned 6.0.6 yet. It wasn't even released though I heard it got out on a few disks from third party companies back when the Mac OS was distributed with programs. Supposedly it had some fatal bugs in it, prompting Apple to go right to 6.0.7 when the Classic, LC, and IIsi hit the market.
Anyways, I do remind anyone who is looking around those sites that the only legal Mac OS to download are the ones on Apple's site.
As for system versions that we could do without, I'm surprised nobody's mentioned 6.0.6 yet. It wasn't even released though I heard it got out on a few disks from third party companies back when the Mac OS was distributed with programs. Supposedly it had some fatal bugs in it, prompting Apple to go right to 6.0.7 when the Classic, LC, and IIsi hit the market.
dont look a gift horse in the mouth, where else are you gonna find System 7.1 (possibly the best OS for computers like the Classic, ClassicII SE/30 and early powerbook series?)
you gonna buy it from Apple? HAHAHAAHAHA fat chance.
you gonna buy it from Apple? HAHAHAAHAHA fat chance.
I think B&R Computer has 7.1 for sale. A link to them is found on one of the threads about where to get old Mac software.
I wish Apple still offered it for sale, maybe for five bucks or something...or made it free like 7.5.3 since it does run better on some machines than 7.5.3.
I wish Apple still offered it for sale, maybe for five bucks or something...or made it free like 7.5.3 since it does run better on some machines than 7.5.3.
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I thought of another version that should have never existed: System 7 Pro.
Basically, this was System 7.1 with some extras bundled with it. If I recall it cost a ton more money than 7.1.
Also, the buggy versions: 3.1, 6.0, 6.0.1, 6.0.6, and 7.5.4. They all got pulled pretty quickly. I think 3.1 turned up on one of Apple's driver disks (I remember hearing about this years ago). Contrary to popular belief 6.0.6 is NOT on the ROM disk of a Classic; it runs System 6.0.3 (even though Apple claims 6.0.7 is the minimum for a Classic). What is included is the Brightness cdev from 6.0.6 (since 6.0.3 was released before this cdev was written). The icon is actually different in the 6.0.6 version, the sun icon is thinner than the big thick one on the 6.0.7/6.0.8 cdev. 6.0.6 is NOT in the folder of System 6 installs on the System 7 Group Install CD either--nor are 6.0 or 6.0.1 (two more buggy versions).
I also wish the original Mac OS 10.0 could be eliminated from memory. I actually bought the first release of 10.0 way back in 2001. Turns out the better part of the deal was getting 9.1 in the same box back when Apple bundled them together! 10.0 worked with TextEdit, Preview, and the other Apple apps. It wouldn't even recognize my volume keys on my iBook's keyboard. I even feel Jaguar was sort of unevolved and that Mac OS X wasn't good for productive work until at least Panther (which I've never owned) or Tiger--yet it is my belief that Leopard is really the first "polished" release of the OS--equivalent to System 6.0.x in the classic OS. (Trouble is, it took 6 years for OS X versus 4 for the classic OS to get to this point). Tiger, to me, is like System 4.2 but with a ton more double decimal point upgrades.
Just my two cents here.
Basically, this was System 7.1 with some extras bundled with it. If I recall it cost a ton more money than 7.1.
Also, the buggy versions: 3.1, 6.0, 6.0.1, 6.0.6, and 7.5.4. They all got pulled pretty quickly. I think 3.1 turned up on one of Apple's driver disks (I remember hearing about this years ago). Contrary to popular belief 6.0.6 is NOT on the ROM disk of a Classic; it runs System 6.0.3 (even though Apple claims 6.0.7 is the minimum for a Classic). What is included is the Brightness cdev from 6.0.6 (since 6.0.3 was released before this cdev was written). The icon is actually different in the 6.0.6 version, the sun icon is thinner than the big thick one on the 6.0.7/6.0.8 cdev. 6.0.6 is NOT in the folder of System 6 installs on the System 7 Group Install CD either--nor are 6.0 or 6.0.1 (two more buggy versions).
I also wish the original Mac OS 10.0 could be eliminated from memory. I actually bought the first release of 10.0 way back in 2001. Turns out the better part of the deal was getting 9.1 in the same box back when Apple bundled them together! 10.0 worked with TextEdit, Preview, and the other Apple apps. It wouldn't even recognize my volume keys on my iBook's keyboard. I even feel Jaguar was sort of unevolved and that Mac OS X wasn't good for productive work until at least Panther (which I've never owned) or Tiger--yet it is my belief that Leopard is really the first "polished" release of the OS--equivalent to System 6.0.x in the classic OS. (Trouble is, it took 6 years for OS X versus 4 for the classic OS to get to this point). Tiger, to me, is like System 4.2 but with a ton more double decimal point upgrades.
Just my two cents here.
As an alternative, using Gamba's procedure for downsizing 7.5.3 seems to create something quite similar to 7.1, both in terms of functionality and footprint. The amount of labor involved is minimal, and it has the attribute of using only freely available bits.
The biggest problem with Apple releasing 7.6 and later is that Apple doesn't hold all the copyrights for those systems the way they do with earlier systems. Especially with 8.0 and above, Apple doesn't have total control. It may be possible for Apple to strip out the bits that they don't have copyright on, but I doubt they'd take the effort. Although it would be nice, even if they don't open-source it if they would at least release it the same way as 7.5 and earlier.
I think Apple should release System 3.2 as well. Why 3.2? It runs on the 128K and 512K, it's stable, and it's HFS.
While I am fortunate enough to have gotten the original system disks with my 128K, many other collectors are not so lucky.
However, I don't see it ever happening.
While I am fortunate enough to have gotten the original system disks with my 128K, many other collectors are not so lucky.
However, I don't see it ever happening.
Well noted, tomlee59. Good for RAM-challenged Macs such as the Colour Classic and its immediate siblings, especially if ethernetworking is one of a user's aims.
Again a comfortably-sized System is a custom 7.1.3, but even that contains much that is indigestible for 68000 Macs such as the Classic and SE.
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I use a custom 6.0.8 on my 4MB Plus and it flies.
I run Multifinder and have added the following to it:
-Backdrop (DA/INIT for putting MacPaint files on the desktop...that's right, dithered pics of my friends and I for the desktop on a Mac older than all us in the picture). This one is freeware but hard to find.
-SuperClock (cdev for placing a menu bar clock in the corner of the screen). Freeware, easy to locate.
-TrueType INIT, free from Apple's website.
-Init CDEV, an early Extensions Manager-type program. Postcardware.
I also have a few commercial products installed--SAM 3.5 (Anti-virus) and AfterDark 2.0. If you can't find the original disks for these on eBay or from one of the guys who sells old used Mac software such as B&R or Herb's, I recommend trying the Disinfectant INIT and Moire screen saver. Disinfectant is free, Moire is shareware.
And don't forget Bomb Shelter, the Andrew Welch INIT, to aid your way out of system error by forcing the continue/resume button to appear. Also, get Paul Mercer's Programmer's Key if you lost your physical key. It will work on a Plus if you use your ` key as the "power key".
I run Multifinder and have added the following to it:
-Backdrop (DA/INIT for putting MacPaint files on the desktop...that's right, dithered pics of my friends and I for the desktop on a Mac older than all us in the picture). This one is freeware but hard to find.
-SuperClock (cdev for placing a menu bar clock in the corner of the screen). Freeware, easy to locate.
-TrueType INIT, free from Apple's website.
-Init CDEV, an early Extensions Manager-type program. Postcardware.
I also have a few commercial products installed--SAM 3.5 (Anti-virus) and AfterDark 2.0. If you can't find the original disks for these on eBay or from one of the guys who sells old used Mac software such as B&R or Herb's, I recommend trying the Disinfectant INIT and Moire screen saver. Disinfectant is free, Moire is shareware.
And don't forget Bomb Shelter, the Andrew Welch INIT, to aid your way out of system error by forcing the continue/resume button to appear. Also, get Paul Mercer's Programmer's Key if you lost your physical key. It will work on a Plus if you use your ` key as the "power key".