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Post #12 by fatmac
Source Forum68kMLA
CategoryTroubleshooting
Post DateFri, 4 Apr 2008 - 23:53
Original URLhttps://68kmla.org/bb/threads/1984-macintosh-guided-tour-quot-urban-legend-quot.10501/
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I'm glad to see so much interest in the original Mac concept. And this particular post is a very interesting subject. There is a little to straighten out on this subject and a good deal to add to it.

I don't believe there was a .85 or .xx whatever version for the 128k Mac. I ran the original version of the OS and it simply said Macintosh Software under get info for System and Finder. Versions 3-6 may have reported the early version as 1.0. But that is something possibly added after the fact. I certainly don't remember it happening or seeing that.

Anyone running Lisaworks or whatever most likely isn't running the original version I'm talking about. I give myself some wiggle room since I've never even seen or touched a Lisa. But Lisa lacked the ROM of a real Mac. No native Lisa can boot into a Macintosh environment. Another company stepped in and developed an environment that allowed enhanced ROM to load into RAM. This allowed the Lisa to then boot into the the Finder. This essentially makes the Lisa into a Plus with a 10 inch screen. Long story short...I doubt they ever made a version of Lisaworks that patched in the original unenhanced version of the Mac ROM like the ROM in a 128k or a 512k "FatMac". You would need this for the guided tour to work. So the poster with the Lisa means well. But is probably mistaken.

I have never heard of Schorr. But I read a good deal every single thing Pogue ever wrote on the subject of Mac from 1986 or 1987 to 1994. And he really didn't know very much about the Mac sadly. I'm sure he's well up to speed by now. For old references you may want to look up Bob Levitis I believe. He went by the name Dr. Macintosh. The ultimate reference is "A technical introduction to the macintosh" It's a volume from the hardware developers toolkit.

I however can tell you a butt-load about the tour. The differences between the early version of the Mac OS and it's 3.0 counterpart. I don't believe there was a 2.0 version of the Finder as it was simply called back then. But then there was a 5.0 that was almost hushed up. It was disastrously bad. At Apple stores there was a culture of "Don't mention it". So I give myself an out should proof of a 2.0 surface :-) I have never seen or heard of it. Never attended an Apple user group meeting that discussed it. Nor talked to anyone who used it.

I'm fairly certain that setting versions wasn't a priority back then. And this probably accounts for much of the confusion concerning early versions of the Finder or System Software as it was also called. Remember you could only get this by going to an Apple store. It's possible there was a BBS in California or someplace. But you pretty much got what you could trade for, or get from an Apple store.

In any case version 3.2 was the most popular and most feature rich until version 4 appeared. But 3.0 changed the interface behavior and look slightly. It is true that in the Original Mac System Software, the folders were more rectangular. Also the animation of a folder opening and closing didn't woosh from the icon location to the edges of the screen. When you double clicked a folder the animation bounced to the middle of the desktop and then burst out to the edges of the screen. Of course when I say animation and wosh and burst, I'm really talking about a zoom rectangle. If ppl are still interested I will post more.

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