Mini DIN8's are a b@#$ to solder

I'm on 'Freaks side - I think it is important to know what protocol you are playing with before you start soldering adaptors...so I don't think he was being unhelpful [V]

The problem with just poking a few wires in and seeing what happens is that you can end up sending voltage the wrong way to the serial control IC, blowing it up and spending the next 5 hours on a fruitless effort to connect two Macs together.