Just a note I have gotton 2 corrupt ROMs. The Classic ROM should be 512k, not 256k.I want both ROMs for mini vmac. (PB100 for when the pb100 emulation is done/usable)

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We'll continue that discussion privately, I guess…  :

The usual response to these concerns is the open disdain shown in this thread. I'm not sure one could expect anything less after a generation of kids have been raised using Napster and Limewire and where 60% of all music today is still downloaded illegally by teenagers rather than legally purchased by legitmate means.

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I couldn't have said this better, I completely agree.

Regarding the forum rules (that I completely read for the first time today, shame on me…), I was refering to that sentence: "We relax the rules for software considered "abandonware" (see below), but will still lock or remove topics at the request of the author or publisher. The 68kMLA will never condone software piracy." Actually most software editors won't enforce their copyright on abandonware, that's why the Macintosh Garden and the like are still online. But I've read several times that Apple was indeed enforcing its copyright on its Roms, and that's why they're harder to find. I can't remember what site was threatened; is it Low End Mac, or Mac512? Doesn't matter. But my point was, I think it ok that Roms float around on the web (and can easily be foung via Google), but I would suggest macgeek417 a little more discretion when he/she asks for such things. But by the way, he/she got what he/she wanted (half of it) in PMs.

Second, you are wrong about how both Basilisk II and Sheepshaver work. In particular the Classic ROM is required for Basilisk II to support certain software (though you are correct about the IIci/Quadra era ROMs). Sheepshaver also requires specific ROM versions and cannot just use any ROM (but they all run the same way). So all the popular emulators, require specific ROMs and emulating the Classic, requires that ROM in particular (which Sheepshaver doesn't support). As for the PowerBook 100 ROM, I am not sure why anyone would need this, except for Mini vMac which still does not fully support it – unless one wants to contribute to the development of the PB 100 Mini vMac emulator. Nothing else will support it. Also, running a PB 100 or Portable emulator offers nothing over an SE emulation other than system specific power management features, which wouldn't function on an emulated machine anyway because they are hardware supported. However, they do support 640x400 screen size which doesn't really offer much more in compatibility than extra screen real estate (i.e. games that require 640x480 won't work on it).

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I stand corrected, thanks for the details.

But my question remains (and it is a real question, no sarcasm or anything intended!): besides the coolness of displaying, let's say, "Macintosh Portable" in the "About this Mac" window , what's the point of emulating a specific machine? Is there any real difference, in speed or in emulation behavior? I've dumped most of my Macs' Roms and tried them for emulation, without noticing any real difference.

So again, without any sarcasm, my advice to macgeek would be to try and start liberating one or two Macs, and start from there!