Snow Leopard and Classic Mac OS — #45

Post #45 by napabar

Source Forum	68kMLA
Category	Networking
Post Date	Sat, 5 Sep 2009 - 07:19
Original URL	https://68kmla.org/bb/threads/snow-leopard-and-classic-mac-os.18406/

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No one is arguing with you. We're just discussing alternatives.

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Indeed. But your reply indicates you have misinterpreted my intentions. My repeated posts in this thread were aimed at emphasizing my own personal sorrow over Apple's foolish decision to kill of AppleTalk in OS 10.6. Additionally, I in some small way hoped to stimulate further discussion on "real alternatives" to what I in the past had accomplished with a Tiger Mac and an SE/30 via AppleTalk -- namely, the convenient means of speedy drag-and-drop file transfer for a large number of files. But so far, I have not seen any genuine "alternatives" presented here to the functionality that the AppleTalk protocol provided. FTP and Terminal apps are not complete alternatives to the functionality that AppleTalk gave us.

The removal of AppleTalk (especially for printing) from OS X is quite simply a blunder by Apple. Steve Jobs isn't killing AppleTalk so the Mac OS can move forward, as if "maintenance" or "compatibility updating" for the AppleTalk protocol had in any way delayed the release dates of any version of OS X. Jobs did it merely to slash-and-burn the past. Indeed, such also explains why it has taken the man took this long to OK a tablet design. Jobs hated every technological idea related to John Sculley and you will recall how short a time it took him to end axe the Newton (which still bests the iPhone/iPodTouch in some respects). Steve Jobs may be a genius about aesthetically pleasing industrial designs that sell, but he is also a man of extreme pettiness. I therefore am not among my Mac lovers who fear the day Steve Jobs is no longer at the helm in Cupertino. Indeed, it may be of some benefit to see him go. And I say this without ignoring the benefits he has brought to Apple, including the tremendous value he has directly and indirectly brought to the AAPL shares I own.

As to truly off-topic chit chat of whether this thread belongs in the compact Mac forum or not, that is a decision for ~tl alone to decide. As for me, I personally do not think it out of place as it pertains to old compact Macs more than newer Macs. Further, of all the forums on 68kMLA I prefer the Compact Mac forum. It excites me to get the oldest Macs to do things they were never intended to do, which includes networking compact Macs with even the newest Intel Macs running Tiger, Leopard and Snow Leopard.

Would it be cool if 10.6 had an AppleShare 1.x server and could share to a Mac 512k? You bet it would! Should it at least share back to Classic Macs capable of AppleShare/IP like 10.5 did? Yes. Am I slamming my fists on the table about it? No. Tech moves on and part of that makes the challenge for us to work around it.

I seriously doubt Steve Jobs is PERSONALLY killing off old AFP versions. He really isn't that technical. He's not sitting around the table saying, "Johnny, I want you to kill AFP 1.x in Panther. Phil, kill off AppleTalk for file sharing in Tiger. Bertrand, kill off AFP 2.2 in Snow Leopard." Steve's got bigger fish to fry. These decisions are being made my Apple's software engineers based on real world use vs. testing time. I've said before, only old Apple nerds like us give a damn. Apple sells millions of Macs every year now. How many people play with classics Macs? Honestly?

The Sculley era is filled with many crippled Macs and a geuine inabilty to move forward with new ideas. My God, man, did we really need to run 7.5.5 on a Mac Plus? That's 11 years of support! For what? It ran horrible on 8 MHZ Macs.

Steve's hatred of all things Sculley has been overrated by many. If he hated all things Sculley, why didn't he axe Quicktime? Quicktime was a great technology, and it stayed and evolved to be the backbone of Apple's media services. The reason the Newton was killed is because it WASN"T SELLING WELL. Shocker, I know.

Steve also didn't like Amleio, but our Finder icon is still from his era too.