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Post #3 by Bunsen
Source Forum68kMLA
CategoryHardware
Post DateSat, 28 Nov 2009 - 18:39
Original URLhttps://68kmla.org/bb/threads/vga-on-compact-crt.19126/
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One problem you'll have is converting the TTL video signal from the Mac into the three (RGB) signals for the VGA monitor.
MarkS, I'm looking to go the other way around from the direction you're hacking towards. That is to say, I want to convert the existing Mac CRT (and, if possible, analogue board) into a compatible display for later computers (or indeed PAL video sources).

EvilTim's MPxPlayer has already accomplished this, albeit using software to force a PC video card to lock to the Mac's scan rates. I am investigating the possibility of hardware modding the CRT/ab to avoid this step, for use with systems where this is not an option (due to unavailable software or hardware limitations). I chose VGA as a kind of lowest common denominator for newer systems.

The MPxPlayer and the PMGS demonstrate that a 640x480 dot pitch and greyscale are no problem: the next step is to create standard scan rates.

Apart from scan and sync, the issue here is not converting the motherboard TTL video signal to analogue, it's piping the analogue signal into the Mac CRT in place of the TTL signal.

EvilTim's ingenious approach to this seems the most promising:

Remove the red, blue and green gain pots, the video signal goes in where the wiper (middle leg) went
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In this case, of course, there is only one gain (or brightness) pot to bypass, and the R-G-B signals will have to be summed into it.

My thought is that the existing Analog board would need to be scrapped and start over with a new one.
Yes, that seems likely. That is of course the approach the Poor Man's Greyscale takes - I might end up cloning the board he used. I'm sure I have one in the teetering stack o' monitors in the lab.

My understanding is that the gun is rated for a frequency range and will burn out if you go to far out side of those.
How is the electron gun (as opposed to the deflection plates/amps) affected by frequency? /ETA/ the PMGS seems to show that it's not an issue.

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