It was around version 4.3 that they told me the other versions are on there. There was a while when my two laptops were a Duo 280(RIP) and a PowerBook 1400. I asked them whether I should go for a 68k or PPC version and the lady told me to definitely get PPC, because it had the 68k versions on disc anyway. Maybe by the time they were trying to port to OS X they decided they had been distributing the 68k version long enough? Was 5.0 the first OS X version? What stuff did they include on the CD? They told me it had versions, documents, user code, and assorted goodies. As you can tell, I am kicking myself for not acting sooner. Now that I've got an ok job I have bought a fair amount of cool software, new and old, but the MCL releases just seem unobtainable.