yea I have read those from front to back, the second one if you go digging says its $01, but does not go into any detail other than "buy this book"

I am going to use $01 i guess, but it would be nice to see the apple defaults, so maybe I can use a later edition mouse handler without writing my own device handler

I also cant find a table of acceptable timing, what little tidbits apple tosses out there are no where near what i am seeing on my SE, the basic guidelines I got from a microchip application note dont really match up either ie attn "should" be 800us or around there, but my SE puts it at 640us

I respect how spiffy 1 wire serial was back in the day when adb was made, but to me looking at it, its way overcomplicated due to the no-clock flag system, especially since they had to invent a use for the already there extra wire (what was sooooo bad about having a serial clock! why couldnt they put the power on via the mcu in the device, like everyone else did it?, why is their own timing not matching what little their doc's tell me!)

so yea I am making a ps/2 to adb converter but after all this fussing around I am seriously guessing its compatibility over the spectrum of machines since I cant seem to find any data, except buy the mac book (for 25$)