Dunno if that's directed at me or techknight, but I'll answer from my view on it:
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Besides, if you don't mind soldering just under a hundred wires, you don't even need the card, that's how I'd test the concept, the PCB layout will map out which wires get soldered or wire wrapped where. [
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No EuroDin removal involved, unless you want to do the "wrong angle" hack to that $2 card riser card . . .
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******* You never got back to me on whether there's room for another card next to the RCPII/IIsi (before you run into the PSU?) a couple of pics of your hack showing the physical relationships would be helpful. If there's room for the LC NIC to lay next to the Video Card in the SE/30, I think I just now figured out how to do the hack with some degree of elegance for either machine! [:O] ]'>
p.s. again, someone has to figure out IF this should work, from that mess of control signals, I haven't got a clue. I'm assuming that any of the /PDSxxxxx signals take precedence over the /CPUxxxxx versions, since they aren't present on the SE/30/IIsi PDS.
p.p.s. I think techknight is busy with the internal grayscale conversion rather than this, which is as it should be! [] ]'>
Heh! Isn't that the reason YOU started this thread about techknight's idea? [so i would assume that the ultimate goal to this is to make a PCB that will allow you to install a LC NIC into a se/30, correct
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You and techknight would have to figure that out, I don't have an SE/30, so I'm taking a whack a possible IIsi installation.
You guys need to figure that out. For the IIsi, the Video Card is the riser. I've taken pictures of a mock-up with the NuBus frame standing in for the IIsi so it's possible to photograph it at all and to show the convenient positioning of RJ-45 and LED panel in the IIsi. To do that, I had to use a second SuperMac riser because the frame and Radius Color Pivot II/IIsi are physically incompatible.or were you thinking of asking more of the RISER/PATCH PDS/PDS PCB, did you want it to T off and still run the IIsi Video card as well ?
Dunno, don't care, figuring it out is the fun art, but the total would come in at a far more reasonable cost than the going rate for a PDS NIC. That was your point in the OP.
Huh? unless you want to do the 32bit extension, there are a MAXIMUM of 19 jumper wires for signals required as pictured along with the oddball power and ground lines where applicablebecause i doubt anyone would want to buy one of those IIsi super mac FPU/Riser Cards only to
solder a couple hundred wires
Besides, if you don't mind soldering just under a hundred wires, you don't even need the card, that's how I'd test the concept, the PCB layout will map out which wires get soldered or wire wrapped where. [
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No EuroDin removal involved, unless you want to do the "wrong angle" hack to that $2 card riser card . . .
. . . no installation necessary if the answer above is no. A straight pass thru slot like I have is a great feature, but unnecessary. For most folks, the Video Card and NIC assembly would likely suffice for the SE/30 or IIsi.
If it looks like the 19 signals I've Isolated don't work out, there's no need to take it any further. [all for a NIC that we are not even sure will work
] ]'>******* You never got back to me on whether there's room for another card next to the RCPII/IIsi (before you run into the PSU?) a couple of pics of your hack showing the physical relationships would be helpful. If there's room for the LC NIC to lay next to the Video Card in the SE/30, I think I just now figured out how to do the hack with some degree of elegance for either machine! [:O] ]'>
p.s. again, someone has to figure out IF this should work, from that mess of control signals, I haven't got a clue. I'm assuming that any of the /PDSxxxxx signals take precedence over the /CPUxxxxx versions, since they aren't present on the SE/30/IIsi PDS.
p.p.s. I think techknight is busy with the internal grayscale conversion rather than this, which is as it should be! [
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