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How rare are various IIGSes?
I have a Woz-labeled ROM 00, and a regular ROM 01. I also have a ROM 03 somewhere.
How rare are the various ROMs?
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How rare are the various ROMs?
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There was a listing on CL for a G3 all-in-one that had been posted for months (I kid you not!) and after they dropped the price again I figured it would be a good machine to act as a network bridge for some of my older machines. I thought I’d get a stock machine but it ended up coming with 224MB RAM, a 40GB HD, and a DVD/CD-RW. Pretty solid deal in my book.
That’s not the most interesting thing I’ve acquired recently though, this is:
(sorry about the craptastic phone camera quality)
Just picked this up today and while it didn't come with a hard drive I'm sure I've got an extra floating around somewhere. The guy said that he'd had the ad up for a day and change and no one had responded, then after I emailed him suddenly he got seven more interested people. Checked out the IIsi's insides and it was very clean in there and thankfully NO Maxell battery!
That’s not the most interesting thing I’ve acquired recently though, this is:
(sorry about the craptastic phone camera quality)
Just picked this up today and while it didn't come with a hard drive I'm sure I've got an extra floating around somewhere. The guy said that he'd had the ad up for a day and change and no one had responded, then after I emailed him suddenly he got seven more interested people. Checked out the IIsi's insides and it was very clean in there and thankfully NO Maxell battery!
The Woz, contrary to name, is hardly rare at all. I'd say the ROM 01 is the least common of the three, but none of them are hard to find.
I have a ROM 03 board in a Woz case myself (I need the ROM 03 features), plus a TransWarp and an AE hard disk. It's a nice little system.
I have a ROM 03 board in a Woz case myself (I need the ROM 03 features), plus a TransWarp and an AE hard disk. It's a nice little system.
I like the AIO, haven't seen one for sale recently. Takes up a lot of space though!
If G3 AIOs weren't so bulky and heavy, I'd buy another one. I think they're awesome and were perfect for the educational market.
Years ago a local recycler had a room full of them and asked if I wanted one (G3 AIO), nope. I don't like the TAM or original Imacs either so shoot me.
I would like that monitor on the IIsi.
I would like that monitor on the IIsi.
I don't get the hate for the TAM. I guess you guys also don't get the love for the TAM.
Why'd we bring the TAM into this? But might as well state my opinion on it I guess... Half of me likes the design and half of me doesn't like it.
Personally I like the design of the TAM, and the startup noise, but I feel it was underpowered for what they were asking for it.
As far as the G3 AIO goes it certainly is a heavy machine. My high school's library was full of them, only the computer lab got the nicer / newer iMacs. Of course, the teachers were really shafted, they got stuck with 7200s.
As far as the G3 AIO goes it certainly is a heavy machine. My high school's library was full of them, only the computer lab got the nicer / newer iMacs. Of course, the teachers were really shafted, they got stuck with 7200s.
Made a funny picture on what I don't think about the TAM haha...
Alfred had a TAM, even if it was in the worst Batman movie ever. I'd like one.
To me, a G3 AIO is a good bridge Mac. Can support USB but also has SCSI and a floppy drive.
To me, a G3 AIO is a good bridge Mac. Can support USB but also has SCSI and a floppy drive.
That's why I maxed the RAM, put a 400MHz Sonnet in, replaced the hard drive with a CF card, and popped in Ethernet and USB to make it useful. I agree, when new, it wouldn't have been impressive compared to the rest of the Mac range, as far as performance goes, and to make them hum wouldn't have been cheap back in the day. But I did all of the above for under $100, so that was money well spent.
And I'm not worried about parts commonality between the Powerbooks and the TAM, just means I have a plentiful supply of spares.
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I would LOVE to have a TAM if I could find a complete one out here in decent shape that wasn't new computer money.
I'll second Unknown_K - I'd love that FPD if you don't want it.
I'm specifically mentioning my FPD in my will. 
Betchya a nickel it's incompatible with your reboxed SE, unfortunately. (That's an Apple FPD, not a Radius one, right?)
Did you ever try the TTL-to-VGA wiring idea?
Yeah, I know it's probably not right for the MicroMac SE, but I'd still like it for one of my other machines 
The monitor is the hard part, finding a card to run it is easy.
I'll take a Molar Mac if anyone is giving them away for free or wants to drop one off here in SW Mitten State.
I think they're cool.
I think they're cool.
The G3 AIO is actually my favorite oldworld mac. The perfect bridge machine and so ugly only a weirdo like me could love it! In truth I've spent countless hours in front of one of these at school and many more once I purchased one for home. A fun fact: the wallstreet powerbook is literally a beige G3 with power management functionality. Apple really did just take a desktop board and rearrange the components.
//wthww
//wthww
Yeah, I'd like an AIO too lol. Mainly from good memories and for a bridge Mac.
I like the old G3 AIOs. Almost had one for free, but the son of a friend snatched it up before I did. He uses it for his Music production & creation as he is a professional musician like his mom (my friend - who is in the Bergen County Philharmonic, he is in the US Arm Forces Orchestra and plays for the President all the time).
Maybe next time, right?
Maybe next time, right?
I have one, it needs work and I got it from JRL awhile back to fix up my other, working one (I got it for its plastics, which are in decent shape). And it's apparently from a school in Cupertino, so it really didn't go far from home, did it?
If anyone's interested in a fixer-upper G3 AIO, let me know, as I really only wanted it's plastics (I will put the somewhat cracked, but basically sound plastics from the other one onto it, of course).
Also, Uniserver had some for awhile. He still might, if you want to get a hold of him and ask.
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If anyone's interested in a fixer-upper G3 AIO, let me know, as I really only wanted it's plastics (I will put the somewhat cracked, but basically sound plastics from the other one onto it, of course).
Also, Uniserver had some for awhile. He still might, if you want to get a hold of him and ask.
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The market can be funny that way.
I found an weeks-old ad on Craig's list for three IIci's for $50 each. From the photos, it looked like they lacked the drive tray/shelf assembly. I already have three IIci's so I didn't really want another one, but I figured these might need rescuing, so I emailed the guy and said, I'd give him $10 each to save them from going to the dump. If he had another buyer, or was planning to keep them if they didn't sell, that was great. I just wanted to save them in the event that the dump or Good Will (scrapper) was the fall-back destination.
He emailed back and asked if I could go a little higher. I pointed out he didn't seem to have the trays, reiterated my first point. He claimed he did have the trays. I said I could go to $50 for all three. Got an email back that said he was getting me some photos to show the trays -- seemed like he was accepting my offer, but wasn't clear. I waited a few days for the photos, then emailed him to ask, and point out that I didn't really need photos. If he was accepting my offer, I'd see the trays when I got to his house.
He emailed back that after a couple of months of no responses, someone had bought them.
Which was the best outcome. But it's weird. No interest for weeks or months, then folks pop out of the woodwork.
I hope that the buyer knows about logic board recapping. The seller said he had some program on the hard drives he'd like to use, but none of the IIci's worked. I tried to explain about logic board recapping, but I can tell he just didn't get it. He couldn't see any capacitor goo and just didn't understand how hard to spot the stuff can be. The seller asked if I could recap them at one point and get one working, but I just don't have time, so I referred him to Charles' website and then he decided he wasn't going to bother after all.
I wouldn't mind picking up a G3 AIO sometime myself. Since I take old Macs on the road a lot and don't have a lot of color-capable ones, it would be a nice pickup for running Kid Pix and other "better in color" stuff alongside the compacts (and the IIci that I finally demothballed today--don't worry, it got recapped back in 2011).
I generally prefer AIOs just because of the ease of transit, although with that being said, I sort of want to get this LC II that's been hanging around my place for the past year back on its feet again. Both the Mac and its monitor will need a recap but I'm thinking of having Uniserver do it sometime early next year, especially since I have a "Macs for Kids Tour" I am currently planning...stay tuned
Since someone mentioned the Maxells again...I have one of those batteries that's completely intact. I should do a 50/50 raffle with everyone on here as to what day it will start leaking if it gets left in a garage indefinitely.
I generally prefer AIOs just because of the ease of transit, although with that being said, I sort of want to get this LC II that's been hanging around my place for the past year back on its feet again. Both the Mac and its monitor will need a recap but I'm thinking of having Uniserver do it sometime early next year, especially since I have a "Macs for Kids Tour" I am currently planning...stay tuned
Since someone mentioned the Maxells again...I have one of those batteries that's completely intact. I should do a 50/50 raffle with everyone on here as to what day it will start leaking if it gets left in a garage indefinitely.
LCII + 12"RGB Monitor + 2.5yd. Duct Tape = AIO (add'l 1.5yd. Duct tape = AIO WITH handle)
Haha, that's one way to do it!!
You know, there's so many LCs that are connected to those dandy little displays that I've encountered at least one person who has actually believed the LC + 12" RGB is actually an AIO--I guess since they match up so well. (Just don't put one of those monitors on a IIci--now that's an ugly combo).
LCII + 12" = looks +++++ ergonomics - - - - -
IIci + 12" = looks - - - - - ergonomics +++++
IIci + Portrait = looks +++++ ergonomics - - - - -
LCII + Portrait = +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ (all tens, even from the Ukrainian judge!)
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IIci + 12" = looks - - - - - ergonomics +++++
IIci + Portrait = looks +++++ ergonomics - - - - -
LCII + Portrait = +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ (all tens, even from the Ukrainian judge!)
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Molar Mac = My BBW dream
So, it sounds like if some enterprising person found a bunch of G3 AIO's, there's a market here.
uniserver had somee, he'll know what kind of market the is for those gawd-awful looking things. Molar Mac is a TERRIBLE moniker for the hulking beast. Anything remotely implying "toothsome" has to have been sarcastic.
The first time I saw one was in the library at Stuyvesant H.S. on visiting day. My first thought was that one of the infamous pranksters there (think "Hackers") had put an Apple logo on a particularly horrible example of E-Machine POS MacAlike series.
The first time I saw one was in the library at Stuyvesant H.S. on visiting day. My first thought was that one of the infamous pranksters there (think "Hackers") had put an Apple logo on a particularly horrible example of E-Machine POS MacAlike series.
I agree with the sentiment that they look kinda like Gossamer, the Loony Toon.
Maybe there's a connection, then? Perhaps the designers knew it going in, and they gave it that codename as an "insider's joke"?
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Except the codename for the AIO specifically is Artemis. Gossamer was for the logic board, and was also used on the Desktop and Tower configs.
The G3 AIO is way too heavy. The shipping on them is a deal killer. If you can pick one up locally, it's nice, but if you have to have it shipped you'll be paying way more than the machine is worth.
Well, It is the heaviest Mac ever made. 60 pounds, I believe? I think the second heaviest Mac ever made was the eMac, I traded it since was taking up so much space.
I really wanted the one which my school was disowning a few years ago. But they would not let me have it, even though it was worthless. It was "government property" and must go through approved disposal avenue, whatever partnered tech liquidator company. It angers me so much, "the man" and "the power" and policy nonsense.
"government property" I don't think the IL government would want a really old Macintosh back.
Try shipping one from USA to Canada
We just don't see these up here too often but Uniserver had one kicking around. Being primarily for education, I had to have one. They are awesome beasts. I think the next heaviest is a Lisa (if you count it as a Mac).How much does the Lisa weigh? I know the eMac weighs 50 and the G3 AIO is about 60...
I would love to get my hands on the MoBo drawer/guts of one for a re-case hack.
Looks like the Lisa is a svelt 48 lbs. The same site shows the eMac at 50lbs. I wonder if they counted the Lisa external Profile hard drive? That would add another 10 lbs at least
I like mine. Never turned it on yet, too many Macs on the backlog.
It might be humorous to use an LC as a stand for one.
Looks like Jobba the BananaPC.
The all-in-one Macs are generally my favorites but the G3 AIO is one I just never could appreciate. Some of them, like the TAM grew on me over time and the one in my collection certainly gets a lot of "what is that?!" reactions from people who are not so computer-savvy.
The fact that the G3 AIO was only available to the education market was a clear sign that Apple knew it was homely.
I personally don't like the look of the Flower Power iMac either but I do actually have one in my collection because it is such an interesting and bold design. If it weren't so massive I'm sure I would get my hands on one just because it is a curiosity in the Mac timeline. The size and weight are just enough to kill any possible interest I have in owning one.
And yes, it does look a lot like Gossamer from Looney Tunes. The two odd "bumps" on the top seal the deal.
The fact that the G3 AIO was only available to the education market was a clear sign that Apple knew it was homely.
I personally don't like the look of the Flower Power iMac either but I do actually have one in my collection because it is such an interesting and bold design. If it weren't so massive I'm sure I would get my hands on one just because it is a curiosity in the Mac timeline. The size and weight are just enough to kill any possible interest I have in owning one.
And yes, it does look a lot like Gossamer from Looney Tunes. The two odd "bumps" on the top seal the deal.
Yep, the size is crazy. I did some measurements and realized it would barely fit on my desk from a depth standpoint. That's what's keeping me from getting a G3 iMac as well, I just don't want the size to haul around for something relatively common. Rare things are worth the hassle.
I'm trying to recall where I've seen the eyes and mouth in that "Mon Dieu" piccie?
Come to think of it, the G3 AIO is the only CRT AIO I can think of with the display set at an ergonomically correct height. The CC's is closer, but you have to squint to see it, might as well have been a 9" Periscope for all that difference.
Come to think of it, the G3 AIO is the only CRT AIO I can think of with the display set at an ergonomically correct height. The CC's is closer, but you have to squint to see it, might as well have been a 9" Periscope for all that difference.
The Lisa is a much higher value machine than a G3 AIO so you can afford to pay $100+ for shipping and still keep the price within reasonable limits. Lisa's also appreciate faster than G3 AIO's so you'll get back that shipping charge when you resell.
I thought you purchased a roomful?