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500mhz Indigo iMac!

PPCMLA PowerPC 40 posts Apr 15, 2007 to Nov 20, 2007
Hello there.  I have a question with something. I'm trying to hook up an external CD Rom drive to a Macintosh Performa 476. I'm thinking I might just need a driver but not sure. The Macintosh can see the CD drive as when I use SCSI Info it lists is as a Pioneer CD-Rom DR-124x. However, there is not one sticker on the device itself. I did take it apart and the internal drive is indeed a Pioneer.

I even bought an active terminator just in case but turns out I wont need that. When a CD is inserted I can hear it spin up and the led flashes but the image does not show up on the screen. I am not sure what I am missing that's why I think it might be a driver. Any ideas??

Thanx. :)

I just got an Indigo iMac 500mhz education model. It's running OS 9.2.2 with 384mb RAM! Having some trouble getting OS X on it, though. Mad
Need a pioneer mac cd rom extent ion (driver). Cd rom tool kit may be the easiest to make it work if you can't find the legacy software.

That's a pretty sweet rig you've got. If you do get OS X on it, it will run it nicely.

9.2.2 should really haul on an iMac with those specs.

Congrats!

And welcome to the PPCMLA!

Peace,Drew
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Thank you Macdrone for your input. As I was not able to find a driver specifically for Pioneer products I however was able to use CD Toolkit and it seems to mount and work for all disks.

Cool! Gotta love the old G3 iMacs!
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I just noticed as well that when playing an audio CD I have no sound being heard through the computer. Its reading the disk just fine. Any ideas as to why this may be??

The odd thing is that OS 9.2.2. actually freezes a lot on it.
Hmm.

What sort of trouble are you having installing OS X? As far as I know, it should just install with no trouble at all...

Peace,
Drew
Not all macs or drivers allow playback over SCSI. Look on the drive if it has the RCA type jacks for audio you can hook up to those, or try unplugging the audio cord in the external drive to see if that allows playback. Like internal on a Powermac 6100 you had to hook up the cd roms audio cable to the motherboard for cd audio.

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It was like that for PC as well until around the XP days.

I'm hijacking this thread as I've got some external CD woes that maybe you can help me with =)

I've tried two different units without any success. Both shows up as SCSI devices when running HDT Primer but the aren't recognized as CD-roms even with the 5.3.2 CD-Rom software installed.

The devices are Toshiba XM-6201B and Sony CDU948S.

Is it as easy as these units simply being too modern/unsupported and requiring (possibly non-existant) 3rd party drivers?

That definitely does sound like trouble. I wonder if your cache could be bad...

When your iMac freezes with OS X, are you trying to boot the installer CD or is it after you've installed OS X to the hard drive?

Peace,
Drew
Use CD/DVD Speedtools, I can get it to mount an external SCSI DVD-ROM under 7.1.1. Anything is possible.

It messes up while booting from the cd. And if I have a bad cache, is it replacable?
Unfortunately that still seems to be for sale, and at $49.95 no less. I'd rather go the free route, if possible =)

Correct me if I'm worng, but I don't think that the cache on those machines is replaceable without a CPU replacement.
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Sounds expensive.
Then I would suggest Macintosh Gardening. I think you will find what you are looking for there.

I just loaded the freeware CD-Sunrise driver on 7.5.5 to test my HP CD Writer 9200. It may be worth a try if others aren't working. I wasn't sure if it'd work as the drive is considerably newer than the driver, but success! (with Mac software discs)

Speedtools did the trick! Cheers! =D

I'll check out CD-Sunrise as well =)

Right. Isn't the CPU soldered to the motherboard? So that would need a motherboard swap, which, surprisingly, isn't a terribly expensive thing. Still, it's probably more expensive than picking up a 400 - 450 MHz Sawtooth or so. But then factor in the cost of shipping, adding a display, etc...

Peace,
Drew
I don't care enough about this iMac to do a motherboard replacement. Right now, on the Apple Discussions thread, we think the cd drive is failing. I posted a WTB/WTT ad on the trading section on these forums for a firewire cd drive. (I opened this mac up recently, and when I pick it up, I feel lost screws jingling) If anyone of you have a spare drive, I'd like to buy it from you, or trade something for it. Smile
There really is no equal when it comes to CD/DVD Speedtools. It is the best product out there for just about any kind of modern optical hardware on an old Mac. The HardDisk Speedtools seems to be a little less compatible, but if it works with your solid state hardware, you can be sure it will provide the best performance.

My iMac went to the great big Trash can in the sky. It can't even boot OS 9 without freezing. Crying or Very sad
You threw it away?!? Did you try any other OS', such as 8.6?

You should have at least tried selling it, alot of people might be able to use the parts.... Sad
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Namely parts like the PAV board, which I assume was working. Those die alot, and replacements aren't always easy to come by...
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I didn't throw it away! I'd never do a cruel thing like that! As in trash can in sky, I mean it went to heaven. (I'm assuming) It's corpse is in my basement. I might sell it.
oooh, ok! Smile

Whew! Had me worried for a bit.
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Yeah, when the 68kMLA comes back up, sell its guts.
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I've used a lot of the parts in this iMac for other machines.

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Sweet! I wonder if one of those suckers would fit inside a pizza-box Mac... What are the dimensions on the iMac motherboard?

Peace,
Drew
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There is bidding competition. Mad I might not be able to get it after all. But someday I'll fix this iMac. Laughing
Sorry about the bid war. For what it's worth, that's not me. I wouldn't cut you down like that (unless it were something like a prototype.) Wink

That's an awesome hack! I've got a Quadra 610 and a few 6100s sitting around doing nothing. If those components fit in an LC, they'll definitely fit in one of the 610/6100 style cases. That gives me ideas (like I don't already have enough to do).

Good luck with this.

Peace,
Drew
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I'm winning! Very Happy
I lost! Evil or Very Mad
I just won a 400mhz mobo! Smile
Now I will make a decision on the optical drive! Someone on Applefritter is selling them, same price for both DVD-ROM and CD-RW. I'm wondering, should I go with DVD-ROM or CD-RW? I feel like I'll go with the CD-RW because I wouldn't want to watch DVDs, and I wouldn't want to install Tiger.

What do you think? Question
Since my post above I have 'redeployed' the two Indigo 500 and the Snow DVSE 500 by shuffling around their RAM and drives according to age and processor version:

Snow 10.3.9/1GB/30GB (2000) became Snow 10.2.8/768MB/40GB
Indigo-1 10.2.8/768MB/20GB (2002) became Indigo-1 10.4.10/1GB/40GB
Indigo-2 10.4.10/768MB/20GB (2001) became Indigo-2 10.3.9/768MB/30GB

In retrospect, I should have made Indigo-2 the Tiger Mac, as its video is clearer and brighter. Indigo-1's new (different) 40GB HDD (10k rpm) died within a month. Too hot in the space at those rpm, I suspect, so it now has a 20GB 10k rpm, which is doing famously.

I had not used the DVD-ROM/CD-ROM drive in the Snow much in six-and-a-half years, and it always sounded as if it was labouring mightily, so I replaced it with a CD-R only. I do all burning externally in LaCie drives, as it happens, and use DVD only for data. Even with their rear 'feet' elevated on 18-mm blocks (40mm for the Snow, so as to get its screen vertical in a rack) for more efficient cooling, they are distinctly warm at the top vent (but not hot) in our summer. If you are thinking about regular use of DVD, I'd suggest an external FW drive.

de
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I'm getting the CD-RW drive. I know I'll never use the DVD function, but the CD-RW function might come in handy. I'll probably keep this mac on Mac OS 8.6 (if that is compatible with the mobo I'm getting) or Mac OS 9.2.2. I may install Mac OS X Puma on it, just because I never used it.
The motherboard came! The motherboard came! Very Happy
It works!
Well done. Now enjoy!

de
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I just won an auction for a 10GB HD with Mac OS 9.2.2 and Adobe Photo Deluxe installed! Cool
Just ordered the last of the parts.

    Final Specs:
    400mhz G3
    128mb RAM
    10gb HD
    CD-RW Drive
    Mac OS 9.2.2
All fixed and working! Very Happy
Sweet! Don't you love that feeling of being able to return a Mac that's down and out to working order?

Anyway, congrats on getting it working again. I know this has been a long process.

Peace,
Drew
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