Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 13:13:47 +0100
From: Joerg.Schaeffer@nestroy.wu-wien.ac.at (Joerg Schaeffer)
Subject: [!] My roundup on Macintosh Security Software (11K)

Hello to everyone.

First of all I would like to apologise if you receive more than one copy of
this mail due to my crosspost. And then sorry that it has taken me so long
to finish this round up, but I am quite a busy student and had a lot of
exams... Well lets get to it.

Some time ago I was looking for a Macintosh security package to do
the following features:
-----------------------

>         * let me lock the System folder with a password
>         * let me create separate protected folders for users on each machine
>         * be compatible with 030 and 040 Macs (Performa 450 and 475 mainly)
>         * be compatible with AtEase 2.0 (if possible!)
>         * allow a user to access his protected folder over an
>              Appletalk network via Personal FileSharing
>         * be easy to use for the users (and not too tough to set up for me :)
>         * be compatible with most (if not all) standard apps


Here are the responses I got:
-----------------------------

Davin Jeayes of HiRes <HI.RES@AppleLink.Apple.COM> wrote:

>24 August 1994
>From:  Davin Jeayes, Technical Support
>Re:  MacPrefect
>
>Thank you for contacting us with your questions. Below I have answered some of
>your questions regarding MacPrefect. The other information you requested we
>would prefer to send to you by normal mail. If you could let us have your
>postal address we would be pleased to send this information.
>
>Locking the system folder - MacPefect allows the administrator to "Lock"
>certain areas of the hard disk including the system folder. This does not
>include password access but does render the system folder completely write
>protected to users. They cannot save/created files/folders in these areas. Also
>MacPrefect allows you to restrict access to any or all of the Control Panels.
>
>Protected folders for users - The best way to implement this is by having a
>folder for each user on the server. In this way users can only gain access to
>their own folder, and thay can also access their folder from any machine on the
>network.
>
>MacPrefect is fully compatible with ALL Macintosh models currently on the
>market, from the MacPlus to the PowerMacintosh range.
>
>MacPrefect is compatible with all standard apps on the market including AtEase
>2.0.
>
>Users find MacPrefect very easy to use and install.
>
>I hope these have answered your main questions; please get back to us with your
>address along with any other questions you might have.

I have to add to this that they sent me an evaluation copy within one week
of my inquiry by express mail!

Richard Schulte  <rschulte@tenet.edu> recommended "FoolProof".

Jeanne Stroh <JSTROH@CUDNVR.DENVER.COLORADO.EDU> wrote the following:

>My favorite security software for the Mac is FoolProof.  I tested version 1 in
>February and loved it.  Version 2 just came out and I believe it will do
>everything you want.  A site license is $589.
>Contact:
>Educational Resources
>1550 Executive Drive
>Elgin, IL 60123  USA
>1-800-624-2926
>
>You can also contact someone at SmartStuff Software (the company that makes the
>software):
>Brian Chapin
>SmartStuff Software
>Tel: (503) 231-4300
>Fax: (503) 231-4334
>bchapin@CERF.NET

Geert Jan Bex <gjb@luc.ac.be> wrote:

>I set up FileGuard (ASD Software, sorry, I don't have their address) for a
>member of the staff of our department, and he hasn't complained yet.
>Compatibility seems to be very good (Except with some system 6 typing
>teaching software). The people at the computer center use it to protect a
>lab of Macs for students. I will forward your message to them, they should
>be able to give you more feedback regarding Appleshare features. Maybe you
>will even receive a message from them before the second (or first) coming
>;-)

"Alan Florance" <a_florance@mac.co.umist.ac.uk> wrote:

>  REGARDING           Security/Protecting your Mac
>I would recommend using MacPrefect, MacVisa  from Hi Resolution
>depending on your requirements, I use these in a student lab and they save
>no end of problems.
>
>I have no connection with the company apart from as a customer.
>See info below:-
>[commercial parts deleted]
>Contact Information
>==================
>Matt Warder - Customer Liaison Manager
>Hi Resolution Ltd
>England
>Tel & Fax: +44 (0)892 891 291
>AppleLink: HI.RES
>Internet: HI.RES@AppleLink.Apple.Com

Edmund Chambers <echamber@sdcs.k12.ca.us> wrote:

>I recommend a program called "FolderBolt"  It does all of the things that
>you wished. You might also look into one called "FoolProof" which does some
>things you probably hadn't thought of.
>
>FolderBolt sets up passwords for any and all folders if desired.  It
>prompts for password upon opening folder.  I think it will work over
>AppleTalk as well.
>
>FoolProof prevents changes to the Mac Desktop and system environments.  It
>can disable all control panels (unless given proper pswd of course).  It
>can force users to save to a disk or any given folder.  It can also disable
>things like "shift-command-3" and holding down the "shift" key at startup
>to prevent those smart kids from tweeking anything.
>
>FolderBolt works well except for the occasional (and apparently random)
>problem with being denied access priviliges.  The admin disk that comes
>with it has never failed to correct the problem thought.  Be sure to
>dis-enable FolderBolt before using a remote installer like GraceLan.  We
>installed new printer extensions on our 50 Macs over ethernet and after
>apparently installing correctly, we discovered that it hadn't.  Even after
>all of this, I still recomment FolderBolt.
>
>If either of you find another program that works, please point me in the
>right direction.

Gary van der Werf of SmartStuff Corp. < Gary_Vander\<@smartstuff.com >
[Attention: This From: Adress did NOT work with my mailer!] wrote:

>We have three companion security products for the Macintosh - FoolProof ( our
>main stand-alone security program), UnderCover, and ScreenPlay - which, when
>used together in various options, provide easy to use but very effective
>security for protecting the Mac without covering the desktop. The mailed
>information will provide you with details.
>
>You would not want to use FoolProof with AtEase. We protect the desktop by
>allowing access to it, with you - the teacher - controlling  the level of
>security through control options which dictate what the student can or cannot
>do. AtEase covers the desktop, does not allow access to the finder. We are
>proud of FoolProof providing the necessary security without denying the user
>the appropriate interface with the Macintosh.

and then he sent me another mail:

>I am sending you information on our three security products, which should
>answer most if not all your security needs. If you buy our software, I do not
>think you should continue use of AtEase, since it covers the desktop, and our
>software is designed to protect the desktop without covering it.
>
>Also, our security is provided by preventing dragging, renaming, trashing,
>and disenabling selected features (get info, control panels, etc), not by
>"locking" users out of applications, folders, etc. FoolProof is designed to
>provide the level of security you need (those which you Select).
>
>We are distributing eval kits only through international distributors. We are
>currently negotiating with several distributors in Europe but have not
>designated one, thus are unable to send out evaluation kits. We would be
>happy at this point to sell a single copy ($39 plus shipping and handling) if
>you wish. Please let us know.
>
>Meanwhile, I am sending written information on our three security programs
>plus pricing. Sincerely,
>
>Gary van der Werf

Unfortunately I have NOT received the written info yet (it has already
taken more than 1 1/2 months. Your mileage might vary.

CONCLUSION:
-----------

I found HiRes' marketing department to be very responsive and friendly.
After testing the evaluation copy, I decided to order from them and I am
quite happy until now. Unfortunately other companies have not been as
forthcoming and helpful as HiRes...

MacPrefect lets me lock the System and Applications folders, which saves
administrators at lot of hassles. Harddisks can also be "locked" so that a
restart with a system floppy disk will not enable users to alter anything.

However I found some slight disadvantages:
MacPrefect works together with At Ease 2.0, but the "System Folder" locking
feature will not allow you or your users to change their At Ease passwords
unless the administator unlocks the System folder.

Furthermore users will not be able to trash damaged preferences files on
their own. Again, the administator will have to unlock the System folder
and do so.

Still I really like MacPrefect.

I think it will be most useful in computer lab settings, but you can also
use it to protect desktop Macs against system modifications et al.

I decided against using:
------------------------

FolderBolt - because my predecessor had had a lot of problems with it,
including locking folders that couldn't be unlocked anymore.

DiskLock - for the same reasons and a rather clumsy interface.

FileGuard - because it exceeded our needs by far.

FoolProof - because I did not get any information from the publishers and
they were not willing to send me an evaluation copy.

DISCLAIMER:
-----------

All opinions are purely personal. I have no connection to any mentioned
company except as a (satisfied) customer. Your mileage concerning different
companies may vary (also depending on whether you are in the US or not.)


Thanks must go to everyone who has contributed to this little research.
I hope it will help you in your efforts to make your Macs safer.

Regards from Vienna
Joerg


--_______________________________________________________________________
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From: Louis_Bergeron@UQAT.UQuebec.CA
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 94 07:23:44 -0400
Subject: Re: Where to get the latest PGP FAQ

this could be of interest to readers of info-mac. I cannot modify the heading my
mail server added which identify me and add other trash info before the main 
message and it is why I send the message to you instead of to the list.

There is already a HOW TO PGP in the archive and that message could be added 
also. Now it is LEGAL to use MACPGP 2.6 in U.S. and CANADA. For other countries 
it is their problem.

thanks

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The following FAQ is kept at
ftp://ftp.csn.net/mpj/getpgp.asc
and at
ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/mpj/getpgp.asc

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----


WHERE TO GET THE PRETTY GOOD PRIVACY PROGRAM (PGP)
(Last modified: 13 June 1994 by Mike Johnson)

WHAT IS THE LATEST VERSION?

There is more than one latest version.  Pick one or more of the following
that best suits your computer, patent restrictions, and export restrictions.
Some countries (like France) may also restrict import or even use of strong
cryptography like PGP.

 |-----------------|--------------|-------------|---------------------|
 | Platform(s)     | Countries    | Allowed Use | Latest Version      |
 |-----------------|--------------|-------------|---------------------|
 | DOS, Unix,      | USA & Canada | Commercial  | Viacrypt PGP 2.7    |
 | or WinCIM/CSNav |              | Personal    |                     |
 |                 |              | Research    |                     |
 |-----------------|--------------|-------------|---------------------|
 | DOS, Unix, Mac, | USA & Canada | Personal    | MIT PGP 2.6         |
 | OS/2, others    |              | Research    |                     |
 |-----------------|--------------|-------------|---------------------|
 | DOS, Unix, Mac, | Most of the  | Personal    | PGP 2.6ui           |
 | OS/2, others    | world except | Research    |                     |
 |                 | the USA.     |             |                     |
 |-----------------|--------------|-------------|---------------------|
 | Mac Applescript | Most of the  | Personal    | MacPGP 2.6ui v 1.2  |
 |                 | world except | Research    |                     |
 |                 | the USA.     |             |                     |
 |-----------------|--------------|-------------|---------------------|
 | Mac Applescript | USA          | Research    | MacPGP 2.6ui v 1.2  |
 |-----------------|--------------|-------------|---------------------|
 | Amiga           | Most of the  | Personal    | Amiga PGP 2.6 b0.6  |
 |                 | world except | Research    |                     |
 |                 | the USA.     |             |                     |
 |-----------------|--------------|-------------|---------------------|
 | Amiga           | USA          | Personal    | Amiga PGP 2.6 0b0.6 |
 |                 |              | Research    |                     |
 |-----------------|--------------|-------------|---------------------|
 | Atari           | Most of the  | Personal    | Atari PGP 2.3a      |
 |                 | world except | Research    |                     |
 |                 | the USA.     |             |                     |
 |-----------------|--------------|-------------|---------------------|
 | Atari           | USA          | Research    | Atari PGP 2.3a      |
 |-----------------|--------------|-------------|---------------------|
 | Any of the      | Countries    | Commercial  | Any of the above    |
 | above           | where IDEA   | Personal    |                     |
 |                 | is not       | Research    |                     |
 |                 | patented and |             |                     |
 |                 | cryptography |             |                     |
 |                 | is not       |             |                     |
 |                 | restricted.  |             |                     |
 |-----------------|--------------|-------------|---------------------|

Note:  there are other versions available, but these are either old, or
outside of the mainstream PGP project.  Look for new versions from one of
three sources:  Viacrypt (Commercial), MIT (North American freeware), or
mathew@mantis.co.uk (the unofficially non-designated holder of the unofficial
international version that parallels what Philip Zimmermann and the rest of
the PGP development team is doing in the USA.


WHAT IS ALL THIS NONSENSE ABOUT EXPORT CONTROLS?

For a detailed rant, get ftp://ftp.csn.net/mpj/cryptusa.zip

The practical meaning, until the law is corrected to make sense, is that you
are requested to get PGP from sites outside of the USA and Canada if you are
outside of the USA and Canada.  If you are in France, I understand that you
aren't even supposed import it.  Other countries may be worse.


WHERE CAN I GET VIACRYPT PGP?

Versions are available for DOS, Unix, or WinCIM/CSNav
Commercial software.  Call 800-536-2664 to order.

If you are a commercial user of PGP in the USA or Canada, contact Viacrypt in
Phoenix, Arizona, USA.  The commecial version of PGP is fully licensed to use
the patented RSA and IDEA encryption algorithms in commercial applications,
and may be used in corporate environments in the USA and Canada.  It is fully
compatible with, functionally the same as, and just as strong as the freeware
version of PGP. Due to limitations on ViaCrypt's RSA distribution license,
ViaCrypt only distributes executable code and documentation for it, but they
are working on making PGP available for a variety of platforms.  Call or
write to them for the latest information.  The latest version number for
their version of PGP is 2.7.

Upgrade from Viacrypt PGP 2.4 to 2.7 is free if you bought version 2.4 after
May 27, 1994, otherwise the upgrade is US$10.

Viacrypt's licensing and price information is as follows:

ViaCrypt PGP for MS-DOS             1 user        $  99.98
ViaCrypt PGP for MS-DOS             5 users       $ 299.98
ViaCrypt PGP for MS-DOS       20 users or more, call ViaCrypt


ViaCrypt PGP for UNIX               1 user        $ 149.98
ViaCrypt PGP for UNIX               5 users       $ 449.98
ViaCrypt PGP for UNIX         20 users or more, call ViaCrypt

ViaCrypt PGP for WinCIM/CSNav       1 user        $ 119.98
ViaCrypt PGP for WinCIM/CSNav       5 user        $ 359.98
ViaCrypt PGP for WinCIM/CSNav 20 users or more, call ViaCrypt

If you wish to place an order please call 800-536-2664 during the
hours of 8:30am to 5:00pm MST, Monday - Friday.  They accept VISA,
MasterCard, AMEX and Discover credit cards.

If you have further questions, please feel free to contact:
 Paul E. Uhlhorn
 Director of Marketing, ViaCrypt Products
 Mail:          2104 W. Peoria Ave
                Phoenix AZ 85029
 Phone:         (602) 944-0773
 Fax:           (602) 943-2601
 Internet:      viacrypt@acm.org
 Compuserve:    70304.41


WHERE CAN I GET MIT PGP?

MIT PGP is Copyrighted freeware.
Telnet to net-dist.mit.edu, log in as getpgp, answer the questions, then ftp
to net-dist.mit.edu and change to the hidden directory named in the telnet
session to get your own copy.

MIT-PGP is for U. S. and Canadian use only, but MIT is only distributing it
within the USA (due to some archaic export control laws).

1.  Read ftp://net-dist.mit.edu/pub/PGP/mitlicen.txt and agree to it.
2.  Read ftp://net-dist.mit.edu/pub/PGP/rsalicen.txt and agree to it.
3.  Telnet to net-dist.mit.edu and log in as getpgp.
4.  Answer the questions and write down the directory name listed.
5.  QUICKLY end the telnet session with ^C and ftp to the indicated directory
    on net-dist.mit.edu (something like /pub/PGP/dist/U.S.-only-????) and get
    the distribution files (pgp26.zip, pgp26doc.zip, pgp26src.tar.gz,
    MacPGP2.6.sea.hqx, and MacPGP2.6.src.sea.hqx).
    If the hidden directory name is invalid, start over at step 3, above.

File names (shortened file names are for DOS BBS distribution):
pgp26doc.zip - documentation only
pgp26.zip    - includes DOS executable & documentation
pgp26src.zip - source code
pgp26src.tar or pgp26src.tar.gz - source code release for Unix and others
macpgp26.hqx or MacPGP2.6.sea.hqx - Macintosh executable & documentation
macpgp26.src or MacPGP2.6.src.sea.hqx - Macintosh source code
mcpgp268.hqx or MacPGP2.6-68000.sea.hqx - Macintosh executable for 68000
pgp26os2.zip - OS/2 executable (may not be on the MIT archive)


RSA and IDEA algorithms licenced for personal and noncommercial use.
Uses RSAREF, which may not be modified without RSADSI permission.
Contains "time bomb" to start generating messages incompatible with PGP 2.3
and 2.4 on 1 September 1994 as an incentive for people to not use PGP 2.3a in
the USA, which RSADSI claims infringes on their patents.  Mac versions are
not yet Applescriptable.  This version is not intended for export from the
USA and Canada due to the USA's International Traffic in Arms Regulations and
Canada's corresponding regulations.

You can also get MIT PGP 2.6 from:

ftp.csn.net/mpj
    ftp://ftp.csn.net/mpj/I_will_not_export/crypto_???????/pgp/pgp26.zip
    ftp://ftp.csn.net/mpj/I_will_not_export/crypto_???????/pgp/pgp26src.zip
    ftp://ftp.csn.net/mpj/I_will_not_export/crypto_???????/pgp/pgp26os2.zip
ftp://ftp.csn.net/mpj/I_will_not_export/crypto_???????/pgp/pgp26src.tar.gz
    ftp://ftp.csn.net/mpj/I_will_not_export/crypto_???????/pgp/mac
        MacPGP2.6.sea.hqx
        MacPGP2.6.src.sea.hqx
        MacPGP2.6-68000.sea.hqx
    ftp://ftp.csn.net/mpj/I_will_not_export/crypto_???????/pgp/amiga/
        pgp26-amiga0b0.6-000.lha
        pgp26-amiga0b0.6-020.lha
        pgp26-amiga0b0.6-src.lha
        amiga.txt
    See ftp://ftp.csn.net/mpj/README.MPJ for the ???????
    See ftp://ftp.csn.net/mpj/help for more help on negotiating this site's
    export control methods.

ftp.netcom.com/pub/mpj
    ftp://ftp.netcom.com/mpj/I_will_not_export/crypto_???????/pgp/pgp26.zip
ftp://ftp.netcom.com/mpj/I_will_not_export/crypto_???????/pgp/pgp26src.tar.gz
    ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/mpj/I_will_not_export/crypto_???????/pgp/
        MacPGP2.6.sea.hqx
    ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/mpj/I_will_not_export/crypto_???????/pgp/
        MacPGP2.6.src.sea.hqx
        MacPGP2.6-68000.sea.hqx
    See ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/mpj/README.MPJ for the ???????
    See ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/mpj/help for more help on negotiating this
    site's export control methods.
    TO GET THESE FILES BY EMAIL, send mail to ftp-request@netcom.com
    containing the word HELP in the body of the message for instructions.
    You will have to work quickly to get README.MPJ then the files before
    the ??????? part of the path name changes again (several times a day).

ftp.eff.org
    Follow the instructions found in README.Dist that you get from one of:
    ftp://ftp.eff.org/pub/Net_info/Tools/Crypto/README.Dist
    gopher.eff.org, 1/Net_info/Tools/Crypto
    gopher://gopher.eff.org/11/Net_info/Tools/Crypto
    http://www.eff.org/pub/Net_info/Tools/Crypto/

COMPUSERVE

The NCSA Forum sysops have a library that is available only to people who
send them a message asserting that they are within the U. S. A.  This library
contains PGP.  I have also seen PGP 2.6 in some other places on Compuserve.
Try searching for PGP26.ZIP in the IBMFF forum for up-to-date information on
PGP in selected other areas.  The last time I tried a search like this, PGP
2.6 was found in the PC World Online forum (GO PWOFORUM) new uploads area,
along with several PGP shells and accessories.  I've also heard that
EUROFORUM caries PGP 2.6ui, but have not confirmed this.

Compuserve file names are even more limited than DOS, so the file names to
look for are PGP26.ZIP, PGP26S.ZIP (source code), and PGP26D.ZIP
(documentation only).


Colorado Catacombs BBS
    Mike Johnson, sysop
    Mac and DOS versions of PGP, PGP shells, and some other crypto stuff.
    Also the home of some good Bible search files and some shareware written
    by Mike Johnson, including DLOCK, CRYPTA, CRYPTE, CRYPTMPJ, MCP, MDIR,
    DELETE, PROVERB, SPLIT, ONEPAD, etc.
    v.FAST/v.32bis/v.42bis, speeds up to 28,800 bps
    8 data bits, 1 stop, no parity, as fast as your modem will go.
    Use ANSI terminal emulation, of if you can't, try VT-100.
    Free access to PGP.  If busy or no answer, try again later.
    Log in with your own name, or if someone else already used that, try
    a variation on your name or pseudonym.  You can request access to
    crypto software on line, and if you qualify legally under the ITAR,
    you can download on the first call.
    Download file names:  pgp26.zip (DOS version with documentation)
                          pgp26src.tar (Unix version and source code)
                          pgp26doc.zip (Documentation only -- exportable)
                          macpgp26.hqx (MacPGP executables, binhexed .sea)
                          macpgp26.src (MacPGP source, binhexed .sea)
                          mcpgp268.hqx (MacPGP executables, binhexed .sea for
                                        68000 processor).
    (303) 772-1062  Longmont, Colorado number - 2 lines.
    (303) 938-9654  Boulder, Colorado number forwarded to Longmont number
                    intended for use by people in the Denver, Colorado area.
    Verified: This morning.

    Hieroglyphics Voodoo Machine (Colorado)
    Jim Still (aka Johannes Keppler), sysop.
    DOS, OS2, and Mac versions.
    (303) 443-2457
    For free access for PGP, DLOCK, Secure Drive, etc., log in as "VOO DOO"
    with the password "NEW" (good for 30 minutes access to free files).

Other BBS and ftp sites do have these files, as well.  I noticed that
PGP26.ZIP is being distributed on FIDONET.


WHERE CAN I GET PGP FOR USE OUTSIDE OF THE USA?

The latest for outside the USA is the "Unofficial International" PGP 2.6 for
most platforms, MacPGP 2.3aV1.2 for the Mac (although 2.6ui is under
development and should appear very soon), and 2.3a3 for the Amiga.  The
latest amiga version is fully compatible with MIT's PGP 2.6.

Copyrighted freeware.
Version 2.6ui released by mathew@mantis.co.uk.
Amiga version 2.3a3 released by Peter Simons <simons@peti.gun.de>

These versions do NOT use RSAREF.  No RSA patent problems outside the USA, but
this version is not legal for commercial or extensive personal use in the
USA.  IDEA licensed for presonal use only in countries where the IDEA patent
holds.

The freeware version of PGP is intended for noncommercial, experimental, and
scholarly use.  It is available on thousands of BBSes, commercial information
services, and Internet anonymous-ftp archive sites on the planet called
Earth.  This list cannot be comprehensive, but it should give you plenty of
pointers to places to find PGP.  Although the latest freeware version of PGP
was released from outside the USA (England), it is not supposed to be
exported from the USA under a strange law called the International Traffic in
Arms Regulations (ITAR).  Because of this, please get PGP from a site outside
the USA if you are outside of the USA and Canada.  Even though the RSAREF
license associated with PGP 2.6 from MIT no longer prohibits use outside the
USA, it still carries the not-for-profit restriction that the original RSA
code in PGP 2.6ui doesn't have.  On the other hand, patents on the IDEA
cipher may limit PGP use in your country to nonprofit applications, anyway.
Indeed, I understand that there are some countries where private electronic
mail is not legal, anyway.

These listings are subject to change without notice.  If you find that PGP has
been removed from any of these sites, please let me know so that I can update
this list.  Likewise, if you find PGP on a good site elsewhere (especially on
any BBS that allows first time callers to access PGP for free), please let me
know so that I can update this list.

Source code (gzipped tar format):
     * _UK:_ ftp://ftp.demon.co.uk/pub/pgp/pgp26ui-src.tar.gz
     * _UK:_ ftp://ftp.demon.co.uk/pub/pgp/pgp26ui-src.tar.gz.sig
     * _IT:_ ftp://ftp.dsi.unimi.it/pub/security/crypt/PGP/pgp26ui-src.tar.gz
     * _IT:_
      ftp://ftp.dsi.unimi.it/pub/security/crypt/PGP/pgp26ui-src.tar.gz.sig.gz
     * _TW:_ ftp://nctuccca.edu.tw/PC/wuarchive/pgp/pgp26ui-src.tar.gz
     * _TW:_ ftp://nctuccca.edu.tw/PC/wuarchive/pgp/pgp26ui-src.tar.gz.sig.gz

Source code (zip format):
     * _UK:_ ftp://ftp.demon.co.uk/pub/pgp/pgp26uis.sig
     * _UK:_ ftp://ftp.demon.co.uk/pub/pgp/pgp26uis.zip
     * _IT:_ ftp://ftp.dsi.unimi.it/pub/security/crypt/PGP/pgp26uis.sig
     * _IT:_ ftp://ftp.dsi.unimi.it/pub/security/crypt/PGP/pgp26uis.zip
     * _TW:_ ftp://nctuccca.edu.tw/PC/wuarchive/pgp/pgp26uis.zip

Executable for DOS (zip format):
     * _UK:_ ftp://ftp.demon.co.uk/pub/pgp/pgp26uix.sig
     * _UK:_ ftp://ftp.demon.co.uk/pub/pgp/pgp26uix.zip
     * _IT:_ ftp://ftp.dsi.unimi.it/pub/security/crypt/PGP/pgp26uix.sig
     * _IT:_ ftp://ftp.dsi.unimi.it/pub/security/crypt/PGP/pgp26uix.zip

MacIntosh:
     * _DE:_
         ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/pub/virus/crypt/pgp/mac
               /MacPGP2.6ui_beta.sit.hqx
     * _IT:_
ftp://ftp.dsi.unimi.it/pub/security/PGP/MacPGP2.6ui_V1.2sources.cpt.hqx

Other sites to look for the above mentioned files at:

    ftp.informatik.uni-hamburg.de
      /pub/virus/crypt/pgp
      This site has most, if not all, of the current PGP files.

    ftp.wimsey.bc.ca
        /pub/crypto/software/dist/US_or_Canada_only_XXXXXXX/PGP
        (U. S. and Canadian users only)
        See /pub/crypto/software/README for the characters for XXXXXXXX
        This site has all public releases of the freeware PGP from 1.0 through 2.6 and
        2.6ui.

    black.ox.ac.uk  (129.67.1.165)
        /src/security/pgp26uix.zip    (MS-DOS executables & docs)
        /src/security/pgp26uis.zip    (Unix, MS-DOS, VMS, Amiga sources,
                                      docs, info on building PGP into
                                      mailers, editors, etc.)
                                      There are several other versions of PGP
                                      here, including the MIT release.

    ftp.csn.net
      /mpj/public/pgp/ contains PGP shells, faq documentation, language kits.

    ftp.netcom.com
      /pub/dcosenza -- Some crypto stuff, sometimes includes PGP.
      /pub/gbe/pgpfaq.asc -- frequently asked questions answered.
      /pub/qwerty -- How to MacPGP Guide, largest steganography ftp site as
                     well.  PGP FAQ, crypto FAQ, US Crypto Policy FAQ,
                     Steganograpy software list. MacUtilites for use with
                     MacPGP.  Stealth1.1 + other steganography programs.
                     Send mail to qwerty@netcom.com with the subject
                     "Bomb me!" to get the PGP FAQ and MacPGP guide if you
                     don't have ftp access.

    ftp.ee.und.ac.za
      /pub/crypto/pgp
    soda.berkeley.edu
      /pub/cypherpunks/pgp (DOS, MAC)
    ftp.demo…

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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 19:21:47 +0300 (MET-DST)
From: Federico Giacanelli <GIACANELLI@to.infn.it>
Subject: System re-installing & 32 Bit addressing - SUMMARY OF REPLIES

Hello,

some week ago I posted a message about a Mac IIci with its System taking 14 MB
of 20 MB total RAM.
I received more than 30 replies! Thank you all very much, Info-Mac people!

Now I post a summary of the replies I received, as requested by someone that
wrote me.

I will quote parts of the mails but i won't quote the author's name because I
don't know if they want their name be written here.
Anyway I know who they are and I thank again everybody.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Here is my original message:

>Subject: System re-installing (Q)
>
>Hello,
>
>sorry if this is a FAQ, I'm posting for a friend that can't read the digest.
>
>Situation: Mac IIci, 20 MB RAM, connected to ethernet, in a local net at the
>university and then to the internet.
>The System takes about 14 MB RAM!!
>We think there is something wrong with the system and plan to re-install it.
>
>The question is: will he lose the hard disk files so does he need to backup
>it? I remember one can install the system without deleting other files at all.
>
>More: In the case of re-installing, what will happen to the old folders in the
>systm folder, like Control Panels, Extensions, etc.? He has many non-Apple
>extensions, wil he lose them or the new system will create a new System Folder
>containing also the old files?
>
>Please reply directly to me and I'll summarize for the digest if someone is
>interested in,
>
>TIA,
>Cheers,
>
>                                   Federico
>giacanelli@to.infn.it

The answer is that my friend's Mac has the 32 bit addressing turned off.
He turned on the 32 bit addressing in the "memory" control panel and everything
is got OK.
Here is an answer about that:

>The reason is that in 16-bit mode the Mac can only address 8MB of memory.
>The system knows there is 20MB RAM out there so it blocks off the
>inaccessible 12MB by claiming that it's using it for itself. In 32-bit mode
>the full 20MB is addressable.
>
>Caution: while nearly all modern applications are 32-bit clean, some older
>ones were written to the 16-bit addressing standard and will fail unless by
>some intermittent lucky chance they get loaded into the bottom 8MB of
>memory. You can't tell by looking at an app, so if try one and it fails
>contact the publisher for an upgrade.


The second part of my post asked about cautions needed when one reinstall the
System.
Well, everyone told me that a backup is not necessary but it is a good thing to
do in *any* case.
A System re-install deletes only the Apple files in the System Folder with the
new ones. One needs only to backup screen fonts in the System document because
a new System document will be created.
Here are some replies:


>Hello,
>The following are some notes on how to re-install your system without
<losing anything.
>I hope it is clear enough.
>
>To re-install a CLEAN system.
>This can be done (w/o losing your old system) by following these steps:
>
>   BE SURE TO HAVE A BOOTABLE FLOPPY (Disk tools) JUST IN CASE !!!!!!!!!
>   Start up with your extensions OFF (hold down shift @ start-up)
>   Open your system folder and create a folder called "Finder Folder"
>   Move the Finder into that folder.  Your old system is no longer active.
>   Rename your old system folder to something else besides "System Folder"
>   Install your new system from your system installs.
>   Restart, and you'll be using the new system.
>
>If you have doubts and don't think that your problems are due to a 'bad' sytem
>(and/or extension conflicts), just try doing a minimal install rather than
>the huge 'Easy install'.
>
>To get your old system back, just move the Finder of the new system (into its
>"Finder Folder"), to disable the new system, and put the Finder of the old
>system back where it
>belongs (in the System folder).  You will know which system is active if
>any by looking at your
>folder's icons.
>When you are satisfied with your system, you can move your extra CP's and
>Exts back into the System Folder.
>Good luck!

------------------------------

>If you really need to re-install the system files, take out the
>"System"-file and the Finder out of the System Folder, and rename the
>System Folder to something else. Now you can install the system software
>without overwriting anything. After successfull installation you can drag
>the necessary old system files into the new System Folder.
>This is the secure and clean way. Of course you can also install over the
>old System Folder without loosing additional files, but this is not
>suggested.
>
>Good luck!
>By the way: Making a backup before installing anything new into the system
>is always a good idea!

-------------------------------

>If you leave "Finder" and "System" files where they belong, only Apple
>parts are replaced by the installer. But I suggest he moves System and
>Finder out (to trash), renames the old System folder to anything else,
>select another (valid) startup drive, empties the trash and restarts. Then
>he can make a "clean" install - and copy files from the "old" system folder
>back individually.

-------------------------------

>You may have heard this by now, but a system reinstall will preserve all 
>your old extensions, control panels, etc.  However I would make a back-up 
>of my System folder first as a precaution.  
>
>If you have screen display fonts installed in your System FILE, my
>experience is that they might NOT be carried forward by the reinstall; you
>must open the System FILE yourself and drag the fonts out and into your
>Fonts FOLDER. 


Usual disclaimer applies: I'm not responsible for ANY data loss or problem on
your Mac.
Thanks to you all,

Cheers,
                                                        Federico

giacanelli@to.infn.it

Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 20:29:56 -0500
From: Joe Campbell <jpcampb@afterlife.ncsc.mil>
Subject: Listing of Speech Manager Apps

Listing of Speech Manager/MacInTalk Pro/PlainTalk Aware Applications

3/28/94

Key Words: Speech Manager MacInTalk PlainTalk Gala Tea text to speech TTS
(Display in small monofont, e.g., 9pt Courier)

Note:  The Feb '94 Apple Developer CD has MacinTalkPro 2, but Apple
has not updated their ftp site as of 24 March '94.

Here are some of the Speech Manager aware text-to-speech (TTS)
applications that I know of (there are more on the Apple Developer
CD-ROMs). If I've missed some, please feel free to add to the list
and also let me know if you disagree with my "Comments." You'll
probably need to increase the memory allocations of Speech Manager
aware applications if you want to use the high quality voices (I
generally add a couple megabytes because the high quality voices
need a lot of RAM). As for some applications (which you'll need to
actually make your Mac talk), the ones I've been playing with follow.
 
Relatively speaking, Apple's Speech Manager, with the high quality
voices, has a synthesized voice quality and pronunciation that are
among the best I've heard (Bellcore's Orator might do better with
proper nouns). Do you agree? Has anyone done formal testing of the
Speech Manager vs other TTS systems?
 
Is there a Speech Manager aware application that allows graphical
specification of pitch and rate trajectories (similar to SoundEdit's
Bender, but on text or phoneme strings rather than the waveform)?
 
The Speech Manager is available from the Internet via anonymous ftp
to ftp.apple.com in /dts/mac/sys.soft/speech. There are 3 files in
this directory:
 
6273632 Aug 14 22:51 macintalk-pro.hqx
                     PlainTalk Text-To-Speech 1.0 speech synthesizer
                     extension (includes Female Voice, Compressed);
                     TTS Female Voice; TTS Male Voice; and
                     TTS Male Voice, Compressed. Requires 68020 or better!
 
 370108 Aug 13 04:30 speech-manager-docs.hqx
                     Apple DocViewer format (Inside Macintosh style,
                     no installation instructions - just drag everything
                     onto your closed System Folder).
 
 262569 Aug  7 07:01 speech-manager.hqx
                     Speech Manager 1.1.1 (includes Marvin's voice) and
                     MacInTalk Voices 1.1.1 (9 more voices). Runs most Macs.

Some of the following applications require Apple's stdTTS extension (a
standard dialog handler).  It's also on ftp.apple.com:

  /dts/mac/sys.soft/quicktime/sample.code/speech-media-handler.hqx
 
The stdTTS extension is in one of the folders you get when you expand
the file "speech-media-handler.hqx".  Just install it in your extensions
folder and restart.

Part of the Speech Manager can be purchased with At Ease 2.x (and with
System 7 Pro?).

Apple's work in spoken language technologies and systems is described in:
 
Lee, Kai-Fu. "The Conversational Computer: An Apple Perspective."
(Keynote Speech) In Proc. Eurospeech in Berlin, ESCA, September, 1993.
 
Happy talkin'
Joe
.............................................................................
; Dr. Campbell  N3JBC  jpcampb@afterlife.ncsc.mil  74040.305@compuserve.com ;
; Speaking for myself     Happiness = Reality - Expectations, Click & Clack ;
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sources:
AOL = America Online
info-mac = {ftp sumex-aim.stanford.edu, ftp wuarchive.wustl.edu, et al.}
MW = MacWarehouse (800) 255-6227
QC = Quality Computers (800) 777-3642

Application, etc.  Source            Comments
_________________ ________  _________________________________________________
AddressSpeech     info-mac  4D talking address book (from Speech Pack 2.0)
At Ease 2.0.1        MW     Friendly desktop that speaks file names
At Ease 2.0.1 WG     MW     Friendly desktop that speaks file names
Eliza 3.1            AOL    Talking Eliza (Rogerian psych therapist)
ExcelTalk 2       info-mac  Excel Macro Sheet to speak the contents of cells
FB speech      Inside Basic Mag, volume 3, no. 6. FutureBasic demo
FB Speech demo Inside Basic Mag, volume 3, no. 7. FutureBasic demo
Fortune 1.1       info-mac  Like a talking UNIX fortune command - slick
HearIt 1.0d3   Apple Dev CD Speak highlighted text from most applications
Homer 0.92d9  zaphod.ee.pitt.edu  GUI IRC client, assign nicks voices - slick
Informer 0.1b2    info-mac  Leave voice messages for friends and colleagues
MacMessage 1.1.1     AOL    Share talking messages/customizable startup
Recite 1.0        info-mac  Read text files aloud
Say               info-mac  MPW Tool which converts standard input to speech
ScriptTools 1.2   info-mac  Write AppleScript scripts to say text messages
Siege Watch 1.01f info-mac  Wryly political speaking clock
SmartVoice           QC     Add speech to apps & suite of talking acc; $50
So To Speak 1.0   info-mac  SM demo w/dual voices, full parameter control
Speak It!         info-mac  Type in a message and have it spoken
Speaker 1.12      info-mac  Simple text file editor, speaks on <CR>, macros
Speak2Me 1.0      info-mac  Read the icons in the finder as they are selected
Speak Note GH 1.0 info-mac  Say contents of notification boxes, e.g. PrintMon
SpeakTextFiles1.01info-mac  Read text files, change voice, rate, pitch & mod
Speech Demo 0.1   info-mac  Canned speech manager demo (mac-speech-01)
Speecher 1.2.1    info-mac  Customizable word pronunciation/substitution
SpeechFKEY 1.0    info-mac  Speak the contents of the clipboard
SpeechManagerdemo info-mac  Command line interface, C source, aka -explorer
Speech Pack 2.0   info-mac  4th Dimension external, add speech to database
SpeechUnitEx      info-mac  Pascal source code for speech in Lab 7
speek-02b         info-mac  Speech XCMD for HyperCard
SpokesDaemon 1.01 info-mac  Scriptable, Apple event-aware, SM daemon
TalkingClockPro2.0info-mac  AppleScriptable talking clock extension (2.0b0)
TeachText 7.2      AV Mac   Apple's talking TeachText (simple editor w/QT)
Tex-Edit 2.1.1       AOL    Talking word processor, McSink like, modeming
VoiceDemo 1.0.1   info-mac  Bare bones phrase talker
Welcome!v1.3.2    info-mac  A talking Welcome to Macintosh startup
Word Speak PIM 1.00.d03     Talking Plug-In-Module for MS Word 5,
                               experimental, unsupported, buggy, beware!
Speech Rhythms       AOL    A cool text file for one of the above apps:
 
ss  cc cc tt  cc cc cc cc cc cc cc   
ss  cc cc tt  cc cc ra ra ra,,,
 
Here are a few rhythms I came up with. Drop me a line and let me know how you ll
ll ll ll ll like them.
Ken Lacovara (Lacovara@aol.com),,,
 
Bossa Nova,
xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx
 
Conga,
xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx
 
Jazz,
xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx
 
Rock,
tt xx tt tt xx tt tt xx tt tt tt xx tt xx tt tt xx tt tt xx tt tt tt xx
 
Military,
cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc
cc cc cc
,,,,,
That's ebedee ebedee ebedee ebedee all folks!
pp   pp  pp  pp   pp      pp   pp

Date: Thu, 07 Apr 94 18:15:46 CST
From: Mack Willingham <ZU01988%UABDPO.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Font Trouble Summary Post

Hello all. A week or so ago I had a problem with trashing some
fonts that were in my fonts folder. I posted the question here, and
got several prompt replies. Also I got a request to post the
replies I got, and how I solved the problem. I had planned to post
them last week, but the pc I was on at the time crashed and I lost
the file (just like a pc). So there it is:

I had come time to clean out my system folder, and wanted to thin
out the herd of fonts that I had. In doing so, there were 4 TT
fonts that I couldn't trash. I tried to do the usual drag to the
trash, but I got the 'not enough memory' reply. Having plenty of
mem left, I was in the finder, I knew that I had the damaged font
problem.

1.) The first thing that came to mind was that fonts were like mini
applications, that were running in the background (I know that this
is not how it works, but just an aside). So I restarted my mac with
the shift key held down to disable all the extensions. I go back to
the f onts f older and try to drag the f onts to the trash.

But, I get that same message, not enough memory.

2.) Not to be outdone by some.... some .... FONT, I whipped out
my handy dandy copy of ResEdit, and proceeded to destroy all the
resources that were contained the font. If there is nothing in
the file, then it should be nothing but an empty shell, and I can
then trash it with no problem .... right? WRONG!

3.) I then posted the problem on the net, and started to use the
suggestions from you guys, and gals. One was to compress the file
with my weapon of choice, and then try and trash it. I stuffed
it, and tried to have stuffit to delete the file for me. Needless
to say, the font still hung in there. It later dawned on me that
I should have used disk doubler instead since it compresses the
file itself and not make a copy of it.

4.) Well, if the file is damaged, then if I can fix the file with
norton, then I should be able to trash it. So I loaded up norton,
and behold, the f ile was damaged, and norton said that it wanted
to fix it, so I let norton fix it. Tried to trash it after a
restart, and got the same message.

5.) I got another suggestion from the net. This one said that I
should just pull the entire font folder out of the system folder,
then trash the fonts. This seemed to easy to work, but hey, I had
nothing to loose. I drug the folder onto the desktop, and the icon
changes to that of a normal folder. Something was happening!!
Next I put those pesky fonts in the trash, and WWOOOOSH!!!! I saw
them grasping for the edge of the rim, but the current was just too
strong for them. So long suckers!!!!

So to all of those people that helped me with my problem, thanks!
hope this helps someone else out there.



Mack Willingham
zu01988@uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu

PS Sorry that it took so long!!!

Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 08:58:30 CDT
From: Michael Cook <mlc@iberia.cca.rockwell.com>
Subject: Wanted: Quicktime 2.0 and Apple Movie Player summary

I previously wrote:

> I'm trying to locate a copy of Quicktime 2.0, as well as Apple's
> "Movie Player".
> 
> Would someone please send me the ftp locations of these applications? 
> Are they available somewhere other than ftp.apple.com?
> 
> (I'm trying to play the "1984" Macintosh commercial, ...

I got replies from the following folks.  Thanks!

EWilts@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts)
pope@imv.aau.dk (Povl H. Pedersen)
Krishna Mattegunta Kant <kkant@ugcs.caltech.edu>
Peter Schoenrank <PSchoenr@PostOffice.uvic.ca>
glenhoag@nuance.com (Glen Hoag)
ether@gulf.uvic.ca (Karen Etheridge)
jtorrey@ksu.ksu.edu (J. Patrick Torrey)
abrody@worldweb.net (Don't Panic)
ware@covina.lightside.com (Ryan Ware)
shakil@dircon.co.uk (Shakil)

I'm open to suggestions for movie players that can play movies that
Quicktime cannot.

At the end of this summary is information about the 1984 Macintosh
Super Bowl commercial.

Michael Cook
MLC@IBERIA.CCA.ROCKWELL.COM
These are not the opinions of my employer.

===============================================================================

Quicktime 1.6 is apparently available at:

> ftp://ftp.cac.psu.edu//pub/mac/quicktime/QuickTime162.hqx


> According to
> 
> <gopher://info.hed.apple.com/00/Apple.Support.Area/Apple.Software.Updates/
> Macintosh/System.Software/Other.System.Software/QuickTime.Information.txt>
> 
> QuickTime 1.x has been removed from all Apple ftp sites.

and

> QuickTime Information
> 
> QuickTime 2.0 for Mac OS is available as part of System 7.5 or a $9.95
download
> from CompuServe (GO QTIME).
> 
> QuickTime 2.0 for Windows is only available as a $9.95 download from
CompuServe
> (GO QTIME).
> 
> Beginning March 27, 1995, QuickTime 2.0 for both Mac OS and Windows will
> also be available for $9.95 download via the internet at "
> http://quicktime.apple.com ".
> 
> All earlier versions of QuickTime are no longer available and have been
removed
> from Apple SW Updates.
> 
> If you have any questions, please send an e-mail message to
> "quicktime@applelink.apple.com".


> QuickTime 2.0 is *NOT* freely distributable.  You get a license and the media
> as part of System 7.5, or you can purchase it separately.

I hadn't realized this, since Quicktime 1.6 was free.  I have System 7.1
on a Performa 475.


> Simpletext is a Quicktime Player.  Have you tried using that?

> Simpletext will play Quicktime movies.  There is no "quicktime application".
> The extention is all that is necessary to open quicktime files in simpletext.
> Other players, such as Sparkle, Movie Player and Movie Play, can be found on
> sumex in the grf/qt directory.

> Also, there's a piece of software called
> Sparkle which will do the trick. It's available on info-mac.

> There are _many_ shareware/freeware quicktime movie players at info-mac
> and umich.  I would recommend BijouPlay.  You can find the players at
> info-mac, in the grf/util directory.

> The free player for QT movies is Simple Player.  As I remember, it came
> with my System Software.  You might look around for it, though it may not
> have been bundled with the Performa.    For alternate movie players, check
> the Info-Mac archive in /grf/util.
> 
> <ftp://ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Mac/Mosaic/Apple/SimplePlayer.sit.hqx>
> <ftp://ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Mac/Mosaic/Apple/README.SimplePlayer>

I had tried using Clarisworks 2.4, which was able to play the movie,
but not of real high quality.  I may need to change some Mac settings
as mentioned below.

I didn't think of using Simpletext, probably because of the name.  My
Performa documentation doesn't seem to mention playing movies (or I
missed it).


> You can get QuickTime 2.0 and the new movieplayer 2.0 using WWW and try
> http://quicktime.apple.com

Information at http://quicktime.apple.com/order-qt2mac.html says:

        QuickTime 2.0 for Macintosh will include:

        QuickTime(TM)
        QuickTime(TM) Musical Instruments
        QuickTime(TM) PowerPlug
        MoviePlayer 1.0
        Apple Multimedia Tuner
        Scrapbook

The cost is $9.95 (plus an on-line account start-up fee of $2.00).


> You can also get QT 2.0 included on some CD-ROM's, such as Metatec's
> Nautilus.  While I don't recommend buying a subscription, I think you can
> buy the latest release as a sample.

> You may find Quicktime at any of the following sites as of 5/24/95, and
> MoviePlayer at the first site for no cost at all.  Get the larger version
> of MoviePlayer.  I found all of these using the Lycos search the WWW at
> Carnegie Mellon University.
> 
> Sites
> -------
> http://popularmechanics.com/popmech/owner/
> ftp://explorer.arc.nasa.gov/pub/SPACE/SOFTWARE/quicktime.hqx
> 
> ftp://ftp.cuhk.hk/pub/mov
> 
> http://forum.swarthmore.edu/workshops/workshop.software.html


> Do you have 16-bit color?  I believe QT movies play faster in 16-bit
> mode than 8-bit mode.

> One thing that I noticed in playing back the 1984 movie is that it works
> best with the screen depth set to 16 bits (Thousands of colors).  It didn't
> play back nearly as well when set to 8 bits (256 colors).

> As I recall, 1984 is a huge (13 Meg or so) video.  Whatever you use to play
> it, set the memory of that app to the highest memory amount available (8
> Meg works fine with mine).


> BTW, where did you get hold of the 1984 advert and how large is the file?

Below is some information on getting the 1984 Macintosh commercial.

The commercial is *large*.  As one file, it is over 13MB.  Some sites
have the commercial broken into 1MB sections for easier downloading. 
These sections must then be combined to get the whole thing.

Please use good netiquette when downloading to avoid frustrating other
users.  Download during off-hours to avoid long connection times to
ftp sites.

I got my copy here:

> From: Rick_Granberry@pts.mot.com (Rick Granberry)
> There are lots of pieces or the whole thing at
> anonymous@amazon.eng.fau.edu
> /pub/macs/1984

Other possibilities:

> From: umgunter@cc.umanitoba.ca (Robert Brock Aidan Gunter-smith)
> ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
> /pub/comp/platforms/macintosh/quicktime/qtmovie/1984.bin

> From: teobh@singnet.com.sg (Alfred Teo)
> ftp://lightspeed.pc.cc.cmu.edu/
> Navigate to the QuickTime directory. And yes, it's BIG! Took me three hours
> to downloaded the monster. But worth it.

> From: foremole@aol.com (Foremole)
> From: JRBabbitt@lamg.com (Jim Babbitt)
> try ftp.demon.co.uk/pub/mac/qt_movies

> From: gentz@leo.org (Ortwin Gentz)
> Try the "Link Everything Online" (LEO) Archive in Munich/Germany:
> http://www.leo.org/archiv/macintosh/macintosh.engl.html
> and here in the directory quicktime/qtmovie. You find there also the full
> 64MB edition of "I think we're a clone now" - a movie about Mac licensing.

Some tips on getting 1984 rolling:

> From: palatine@direct.ca (Mike Dewit)
> 
> De-code segments 2-18 first.
        (Ignore the warnings from Stuffit about not finding the other
         parts when unstuffing individual segments. -- MLC)
> Once that's done, decode segment 1.  Stuffit
> then takes 1 and glues 2-18 to it.
> 
> Brilliant images for a commercial.

Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 01:30:56 -0600
From: farber@central.cis.upenn.edu (David Farber) (by way of
Subject: If Operating Systems Were Airlines Humor :-)

Message was resent -- Original recipients were:
To: Multiple recipients of list
<nrsing-l@nic.umass.edu>--------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------

Couldn't resist this little bit of list-abuse
because it captures so much of what we know
and so much of what lurks between the lines
of many postings over the last few months:

IF OPERATING SYSTEMS WERE AIRLINES.......

If operating systems were airlines.....

> DOS Air: All the passengers go out onto the runway, grab hold of
> the plane, push it until it gets in the air, hop on, jump off
> when it hits the ground again. Then they grab the plane again,
> push it back into the air, hop on, et cetera.
>
> Mac Airways: The cashiers, flight attendants and pilots all look
> the same, feel the same and act the same. When asked questions
> about the flight, they reply that you don't want to know, don't
> need to know and would you please return to your seat and watch the
> movie.
>
> Windows Airlines: The terminal is very neat and clean, the
> attendants all very attractive, the pilots very capable. The
> fleet of Learjets the carrier operates is immense. Your jet
> takes off without a hitch, pushing above the clouds, and at
> 20,000 feet it explodes without warning.
>
> OS/2 Skyways: The terminal is almost empty, with only a few
> prospective passengers milling about. The announcer says that their
> flight has just departed, wishes them a good flight, though there
> are no planes on the runway. Airline personnel walk around,
> apologizing profusely to customers in hushed voices, pointing from
> time to time to the sleek, powerful jets outside the terminal on the
> field. They tell each passenger how good the real flight will be
> on these new jets and how much safer it will be than Windows
> Airlines, but that they will have to wait a little longer for
> the technicians to finish the flight systems. Maybe until
> mid-1995. Maybe longer.
>
> Fly Windows NT: All the passengers carry their seats out onto the
> tarmac, placing the chairs in the outline of a plane. They all sit
> down, flap their arms and make jet swooshing sounds as if they are
> flying.
>
> Unix Express: all passenger bring a piece of the airplane and a
> box of tools with them to the airport. They gather on the tarmac,
> arguing constantly about what kind of plane they want to build
> and how to put it together. Eventually, the passengers split into
> groups and build several different aircraft, but give them all
> the same name. Some passengers actually reach their destinations.
> All passengers believe they got there.
>
> Wings of OS/400: The airline has bought ancient DC-3s, arguably
> the best and safest planes that ever flew, and painted "747" on
> their tails to make them look as if they are fast. The flight
> attendants, of course, attend to your every need, though the
> drinks cost $15 a pop. Stupid questions cost $230 per hour, unless
> you have SupportLine, which requires a first class ticket and
> membership in the frequent flyer club. Then they cost $500, but
> your accounting department can call it overhead.
>
> MVS Air Lines: The passengers all gather in the hangar, watching
> hundreds of technicians check the flight systems on this immense,
> luxury aircraft. This plane has at least 10 engines and seats over
> 1,000 passengers; bigger models in the fleet can have more
> engines than anyone can count and fly even more passengers than
> there are on Earth. It is claimed to cost less per passenger
> mile to operate these humungous planes than any other aircraft
> ever built, unless you personally have to pay for the ticket.
> All the passengers scramble aboard, as do the 200 technicians
> needed to keep it from crashing. The pilot takes his place up in
> the glass cockpit. He guns the engines, only to realize that the
> plane is too big to get through the hangar doors. -

Date: Fri, 28 May 93 11:12:30 EDT 
From: aa239@freenet.buffalo.edu (Chet Niewczyk)
Subject: Macintosh New Age Software List Volume 0.2 



Macintosh NewAge Software List Volume 0.2

This is a major report I put together on NewAge software for the Macintosh.
I created this list in response to a need for the alt.astrology Usenet news
groug but it has grown in popularity beyond that group.  It now includes other
items besides Astrology software.  This list is posted regularly to the
alt.astrology newsgroup.  Look there first for updates (which will now be
few and far inbetween).  

This is a teachtext doc compressed and BinHexed.  it is formatted for monaco
or any other mono-spaced font for online viewing.  However it should be
easily readable within any word processor with any font including teachtext
itself.

Please archive this in a reports type archive.

Chet Niewczyk
Macintosh Sysop/Buffalo Freenet





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--
Chet Niewczyk
Macintosh Sysop/Buffalo Freenet

Date:         Sat, 02 Jul 94 18:35:15 PDT
From: Paul Brians <BRIANS@WSUVM1.CSC.WSU.EDU>
Subject:      Preventing and Solving PageMaker Bad Record Index Errors


When I recently had a PageMaker 5.0 file go belly-up on me because of a
"'Bad Record Index'" error, I collected many tips on dealing with this
ominous problem which I thought I would share.  I am sending you a
detailed set of instructions which may be of use to others for placing
in the archives.

Dealing with "Bad Record Index" errors in PageMaker.

The main points are these:

Prevention:

1.  Update to PM 5.0a (but do turn off ALL inits first; the installer is
a killer otherwise).
2.  In Preferences, make sure "Save smaller" is checked.

3.  Try to keep files small--30 pages or so. Divide longer projects into
shorter files.

4.  Be careful to be consistent when you apply styles in Word for
documents you will be importing into PM. Don't create two different
styles with the same name.

5.  When typing directly into PM, always assign what you type one of
your styles.

6.  Never click-create a text block in PM without typing something, a
space, at least. THEN you can delete it.

Repair (test your document after trying each one):

The first time you get the error message, save the document as another
document. The new copy may be fixed.

Hold down the shift and option keys while choosing Hyphenation. The
document will be searched for problems. One beep means no problem, two
means a problem or problems was repaired, three means an unrepaired
problem. This is the only solution offered in the User's Manual, and
doesn't seem to work very often.

Command-click on each style name in the STyle palette to bring up the
Edit styles dialogue box, then hit Return (or press OK). If you get an
error message with one of them, you've found a corrupted style. Then
command-click on "No style" and type the name of the bad style, exactly,
except for any plus signs or asterisks). Use save as. (This tip from
"Real World PageMaker 5.0: Industrial Strength Techniques," p. 253,
from Random House--a great book.)

Find any temp files with names like "aldtmpXX" (where XX are sequential
numbers) and open them with PM. They may be earlier versions that are
not yet damaged.

If you have linked text or graphics, go to Links in the File Menu and
break all links to the original.

Follow the instructions below in the section called "CompuServe
BADRIX.TXT" to remove any corrupted styles. This was the only thing that
worked for me.

As a last desperate measure, create a new publication and copy and paste
your stories one by one from the old publication; though if the old pub
was created by placed stories created elsewhere, it might be almost as
easy to recreate the document from scratch, particularly in PM 4.2,
which doesn't allow two documents open at once.

Here are copies (slightly edited) of the documents and correspondence I
collected, so you can see where this advice is coming from and get its
full context.

--
Via Usenet's alt.pagemaker newsgroup:

Date: Sat, 02 Jul 94 13:26:55 GMT
From: jason@heaven.demon.co.uk (Jason Crouch)
Organization: mFifteen design
To: BRIANS@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu
Subject: Where are "Bad Record Index" errors discussed in PM5 manual?

In article <16FE5120F2S85.BRIANS@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu> you write:

> The first entry in the PM 5 User Manual under Troubleshooting on p. 464
> is"Bad Record Index errors, fixing 312.  Trouble is, there's nothing
> on that subject on p. 312.  My 90 days of free support just expired
> and I don't feel like paying to get solve a problem Aldus caused.
> Can someone tell me the REAL page number on which "Bad Record Index" errors
> are discussed?

I'm afraid it _is_ listed on that page. In the beige box top left. (the
bit about Option-Shift-Hyphenation).[Although the index points to this, the
words "Bad
Record Index" aren't used anywhere on the page, very misleading. PB]

That's the extent of the information provided by Aldus. Here's a
trasnscript of another message I sent regarding this issue. (after
considerable discussion with Aldus Tech Support here in the UK).

--

> I was working on my graduate project in PM 4.2 for the Macintosh when
> suddenly got this error: "Cannot open file: Bad Index Table"!

This means that the internal database structure of the PM file has become
corrupted. There are ways to avoid this problem, but few to save data once
it's sufficiently corrupted to fail to open.

Avoidance techniques:

1)   Backup regularly - including Save(ing) As ...

     Save As reconstructs the entire project on disk as a mirror to the
     document currently being worked on. Save, however, merely tags the
     past few changes onto the database. The example given to me by some
     tech from Aldus Tech. Support was:

        "Imagine you have a 100 page long document which you
         cut 99 pages of graphics and text from, you then Save.
         PageMaker's internal database then stores 100 pages
         and graphics which it then cuts the last 99 pages from
         before allowing you to work on it.
         Save As, however, re-writes the database in it's entirety
         to bring it in line with the project as it stands in memory
         and on disk."

     My preference is to keep at least 3 versions of any one project
     on the hard drive at any one time.

2)   Check the document using shift-option-Hyphenation (if you can still
     open it that is).

     This

        " ... can automatically repair some corrupted publications.
         If the computer beeps once, PM found no problem, ... twice,
         it found and repaired a problem ... three times, it found a
         problem but was unable to repair it."
                                                PM5 users manual pp 312
                                                re: bad record (table) index

     Although it's never beeped even once for me =]


3)   If you can afford it, upgrade to PM5(a), which Aldus technical support
     assures us has an improved database structure. I have found problems
     regarding PM4 documents opened in PM5, Aldus suggest this is more
     likely to be a semi-corrupted PM4 file, whose errors have only come
     to light in the conversion process. This touching faith in the stability
     of the latest version of PM may leave a lot to be desired. =op

4)   If you begin to get the bad table index message, immediately save as
     to another document. If the message re-occurs in this _new_ document
     then cut and paste the document into a new document, page by page.
     (Clearly only a real option in PM5). If this does not solve the
     problem then I have been advised by Aldus technical support that
     the _only_ way to recover the file is to re-build it in its
     entirety from scratch. Thanks Aldus.


Recovery techniques:

1)   Try and find any mini-saved versions of the document. Pagemaker
     creates such a file every time you turn the page, print, etc. There
     may be one on your machine that PM can open. On the Mac
     these are called aldtmpXX (where XX are sequential numbers), on the
     windows variety ~PMXXXXX.TMP. They are found in the Rescued items
     folder in the trash can on the Mac, and in the directory specified
     by the TEMP environment variable on the PC  AFAIK.

     Open these as you would open a normal PM4 file.
     But with your fingers resolutely crossed.

     If the files are _very_ small (typically under 1k) then they, clearly,
     will _not_ contain the minisave you require. In some incidents you
     may find a variety of mini-save'd versions of the document, in a
     variety of states of disrepair.

2)   Never found any other way that worked,

     Further advice, anyone?

============================================================================

This advice may or may not be of help to you. =)
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e-mail : jason@heaven.demon.co.uk |  as though we were immortal. This is
  jason.crouch@almac.co.uk        |  what is the greatest marvel"
         jason@mfl.org            |                        Yudhhishthira

--

>From CompuServe's Aldus PageMaker forum:

Date:    Jul 1, 1994 6:01:22 PM
Subject: #119762-Solve Bad RIX error?
From:    John Cornicello [sysop] 76702,1410
To:      Paul Brians 76136,1300 (deletable)

My manual does have a possible fix mentioned on page 312. There is a
side bar that says hold down Option-Shift and select Hyphenation from
the Type menu to do some internal file repairs.

When you do this, though, you should have the pointer tool selected, but
no objects selected on the page.

There is also a file called badrix.txt in Library 3 here that talks a
bit about Bad Record Index errors. It is a couple of years old, but some
of the things in there may still apply.

BadRix can also have to do with linked text or graphics. You might go to
Links in the File menu and break all links to the original text if they
exist.

JC

Date:    Jul 2, 1994 6:24:29 AM
Subject: #119762-Solve Bad RIX error?
From:    Dave Saunders [sysop] 76702,1306
To:      Paul Brians 76136,1300 (deletable)

As John says, the tip box on page 312 is what you need to attack your
Bad Record Index problem. But, be sure to have the pointer tool active
and nothing selected when you do it.

I've just had a flood of bad record index problems to deal with, myself.
I've found that sometimes I have to do the diagnostic recompose two or
three times intermixed with resaving the file before the problem finally
disappears. Another good thing to do (that forces PageMaker to take a
good hard look at the file) is to hold down the shift key and select "Go
To" from the Layout menu. This will give you a "slide show" view of your
document, as PM shows you each page in turn -- click the mouse to stop
it. My advice is to let PM wander through the document completely before
stopping it.

Make sure that you have "Save Smaller" activated. Save Faster, the
alternative, creates files that have not been cleaned up -- in my view,
the larger the file, the more likely it is to have trouble.

300 pages is also rather large for a single file. I work on 700 page
books, but I use the book feature to divide the document into chapters
of about 30 pages each.

Hope you find some help in here somewhere.

Dave

--

Downloaded from CompuServe Aldus Forum Library no. 3:

When I try to edit or remove styles from my style sheet, PageMaker gives
me the message, "Internal error: bad record index." [Note: in my case
the error message occurred only when I attempted to print. PB] What am I
doing
wrong and how can I fix it?

	In this situation, the message "Inernal Error: bad record index"
means that the paragraphs in a story that you typed from scratch in
PageMaker--not one that you placed--are trying to use a style that's not
in your style sheet. (In PageMaker, a "story" consists of all the text
between an empty windowshade handle and a whindowshade handle with a #
in it.)
	This happens when you create an insertion point to start a new
story then accidentally press the Backspace (or Delete) key before
typing any text.  Although your currently selected style (which could be
"No Style") remains highlighted in the style palette, any text you type
after hitting the Backspace key uses a non-existent style.  You don't
have a clue that anything is wrong until you get the "bad record index"
message when trying to edit or remove a style.
	To prevent this in the future, avoid pressing Backspace until
you've typed some text, even a single character, into a new story.
	To repair your publication's style sheet once you get this
message, you must use the style palette and the process of elimination
to check each story you created with PageMaker's text tool.  Be
forewarned that this can be time-consuming if you publication is large.

Here's what to do:

1.	Make a backup copy of the publication. Use the backup to isolate
the problem paragraph(s), and fix the original afterward.

2.	In the backup of the publication, create a new style named "My
Style."

3.	Use the pointer tool to select "My Style" in the style palette.

4.	With the text tool, create an insertion point on the pasteboard
(be sure you're not clicking inside an existing story).

5.	Type, "This is My Style."

6.	Click an insertion point in the story you created on the
pasteboard so that "My Style" is selected in the style palette.

7.	Click an insertion point in the first paragraph of a story you
typed in PageMaker and check the style palette. If a style other than
"My Style" is highlighted, the selected paragraph is okay.  If "my
Style" remains selected, the paragraph is formatted wih a nonexistent
style.  (When PageMaker can't determine which style is applied to a
paragraph, it leaves the style palette unaltered, so the palette will
still read "My Style.")  If that happens, chose "Select all" from the
edit menu, click "No style" in the style palette, then apply appropriate
styles to each paragraph in the story.

8.	Note where you correct the backup publication because you'll
have to update the original one later.

9.	Repeate 6 through 8 for each story.

10.	After you've checked all the stories you typed in PageMaker, try
to remove "My Style."  If you still get a "bad record index" message,
You've missed one or more problem stories- continue cleaning up the
publication.
	Once you've found and corrected all the problem stories, correct
the original publication and resume your work.

Here are a few tips to help you speed your search for the problem
stories:

	Only check all stories-headlines, captions, body text, or
others-you created by typing with PageMaker's text tool.

	Begin with a preliminary search of the master pages and the
pasteboard, because those frequently have running heads, page numbers,
and other stories you typed in PageMaker.

	If you have to check the regular pages and you publication is
long, subdivide the backup into two smaller publications(make two
copies, delete half the pages from one and the other half of the pages
from the other copy).  Next, try to edit a style in each half of the
publication.  If you receive a "bad record index" message in either one,
continue to subdivide that half-publication util each partial
publication with a "bad record index" message contains only one or two
pages. Then check those carefully, as described above.

Paul Brians, Washington State University, brians@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu

Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 11:01:58 -0800 (PST)
From: John Thoo <jbthoo@ucdavis.edu>
Subject: Apple Ships New Hypercard (long)

I haven't seen this appear in imdigest, yet, and thought some folks might 
find it interesting.

[Gordon---I have two more related press releases.  Should I submit them, 
too, or not?  Please let me know 'fore I delete them.  Thanks.  --T.]

J. B. THOO, Math Dept, Univ of California, Davis <jb2@math.ucdavis.edu>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 93 02:07:32 EST
From:
To: jbthoo@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu
Subject: Apple Ships New Hypercard

MOVED OVER PR NEWSWIRE AT 8:18 AM, EDT MONDAY, DECEMBER 13, 1993.


Contact:
Emilio Robles
Apple Computer, Inc.
(408) 862-5671

or

Toni Giusti
Cunningham Communication, Inc.
(408) 982-0400


Apple Launches New Version of HyperCard, Providing Significant Flexibility,
Power and Customization Enhancements

AppleScript Support, Color, Media Integration Extend HyperCard's Appeal to
New Users

CUPERTINO, California--December 13, 1993--Apple Computer today introduced
HyperCard 2.2, a significant new version of its popular software tool that
enables users to easily create customized software solutions.  Version 2.2
represents dramatic increases in power, functionality and flexibility,
extending HyperCard's value to new and existing multimedia title producers,
educators, commercial solution providers and in-house developers.
    HyperCard 2.2 integrates a key Apple technology, AppleScript, which
enables users to automate repetitive tasks by launching, controlling and
exchanging data with existing applications.  HyperCard 2.2 also includes the
ColorTools for seamlessly adding color to stacks; WorldScript support for
creating multilingual solutions and a new "save as" option that creates
double-clickable applications which can be distributed without royalty fees. 
In addition, HyperCard 2.2 bundles ADDmotion II from Motion Works
International for easy creation and editing of animation.
    According to AppleSoft senior vice president and general manager, David
Nagel, "When HyperCard was launched in 1988 it delivered power and
flexibility that set a new standard for application development. Today, we
are extending that power and flexibility with a host of new features, making
HyperCard an even more strategic product for the multimedia, education and
in-house development markets."
    HyperCard is on over eight million Macintoshes worldwide and has been
lauded as a key Apple technology by educators and business users worldwide. 
The latest release of HyperCard extends customers' investments in their data
and provides valuable new features that significantly improve end-users'
experiences with stacks.
    "We are a two-person consulting firm specializing in on-line
documentation and multimedia development.  HyperCard's amazing power and
flexibility have enabled us to create our own custom applications which we
can fully integrate and modify as needed.  Furthermore, it is the glue that
allows us to integrate other applications such as Word, Persuasion and
Excel," said Katherine Horton, a HyperCard user at William Horton Consulting
in Huntsville, Ala.

AppleScript Functionality Now Built Into HyperCard
    With AppleScript now built in, HyperCard 2.2 provides a dramatic increase
in functionality to new and existing users.  It enables them to integrate
applications with HyperCard, providing much easier ways to manipulate and
present information from a wide range of applications.  Users can launch,
control and exchange data with a host of scriptable applications such as 4th
Dimension, MacWrite, FileMaker, Microsoft Excel, Microsoft Word, PhotoFlash,
QuarkXpress, and WordPerfect, along with over 75 others.  HyperCard supports
any Open Scripting Architecture (OSA)-compliant scripting language including
AppleScript, UserTalk from UserLand and CEScript from CE Software.
    "HyperCard 2.2 is an optimal choice for commercial solution providers. 
With AppleScript support, users can create even more powerful solutions by
extending the core functionality of HyperCard with off-the-shelf
applications," said Param Singh, HyperCard product marketing manager.  "With
the wide variety of scriptable applications available today, HyperCard users
can immediately create innovative applications to meet their individual
needs, while preserving the simplicity and ease-of-use of the HyperCard
environment."

Color/Media Integration
    HyperCard's new ColorTools enhance the useability and visual appeal of
existing and new solutions.  In addition to importing and resizing color PICT
graphics, users can select from a palette of 256 shades to color HyperCard
elements such as buttons, fields, cards and backgrounds.  HyperCard's
QuickTime tools allow users to incorporate movies into cards and stacks with
point and click simplicity.
    "The new release of HyperCard, especially with its open scripting and
color support, gives a wide range of Macintosh users access to incredible
programming power.  I am delighted with Apple's commitment to the product,
and expect to see new and existing users develop exciting new solutions for
themselves and the Macintosh community," said Danny Goodman, HyperCard user
and author of The Complete HyperCard 2.2 Handbook, coming in January 1994
from Random House Electronic Publishing.
    HyperCard continues to help multimedia authors differentiate their
product by providing comprehensive multimedia capabilities in one
environment.  With ADDmotion II, HyperCard 2.2 facilitates easy media, color
and sound editing to help users enhance the value of new and existing stacks.
 ADDmotion II is a 24-bit color paint, animation and sound extension that
integrates seamlessly into HyperCard and provides tools for controlling and
editing animations and sounds.
    HyperCard 2.2 is the premier solution for education.  With color and
QuickTime capabilities, HyperCard enables educators to create innovative,
compelling courseware while preserving ease-of-use for students.
    In addition, HyperCard 2.2 supports WorldScript, which makes it possible
to include different languages in a field or card to create powerful
multilingual solutions.  HyperCard users can script in several languages
including French and Japanese, using AppleScript dialects extensions.

Pricing and Availability
    The U.S. suggested retail price (SRP) for HyperCard 2.2 is $249.  As part
of a special limited time introductory promotion, Apple is offering HyperCard
2.2 for an U.S. SRP of $139.  Additionally, Apple will contact registered
users of HyperCard 2.0 or 2.1 to offer a full upgrade for $89.  Apple is also
offering a $39 upgrade to customers who have purchased Claris HyperCard 2.1
between November 1, 1993 and December 31, 1993.  For details, users should
contact the Apple Software Programs Customer Service at (800)-769-2775, ext.
7810. Volume purchases of site licenses are available for HyperCard 2.2
through the Apple volume licensing program.
    HyperCard 2.2 is planned to be available at the end of the month and will
be able to be ordered through software resellers, Apple authorized resellers
and APDA -- Apple's source for developer tools. APDA can be reached in the
United States at (800) 282-2732;  in Canada at (800) 637-0039; or
internationally at (716) 871-6555. Apple resellers can be located by calling
(800) 538-9696.
    All customers have access to toll-free telephone support by calling Apple
Assurance at (800) SOS-APPL.  Advanced scripting support is available for a
fee by calling (800) 950-2442.

-30-

Apple, the Apple logo, and Macintosh are registered trademarks and System 7
and HyperCard are trademarks of Apple Computer, Inc.

EDITOR'S NOTE:  Electronic screen shots are available via AppleLink by
contacting Cindy Cooper of Cunningham Communication, Inc. at AppleLink
address:  CCI.Calif or Lisa Wilson of Apple PR at AppleLink address: 
Wilson.Lisa.  If you are interested in receiving Apple releases via fax, call
800-AAPL-FAX and enter I.D. number 6172.

END


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12:29:02 EST