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Linux on my B&W!
Ok, time for me to go to sleep....I'll swing by the IRC channel tomorrow to help out some more if you still have problems.
In the meantime, do check out the page I linked in my earlier posts. It's got some really good tips on what each directory is for and some basic useful commands. If you want a good book on GNU/Linux, I recommend the O'Reilly Media "Running Linux, Fifth Edition" book. Very handy book for when you're working with GNU/Linux.
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/runlinux5/
There's also a small pocket guide called (appropriately enough
) "Linux Pocket Guide":
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxpg/
In the meantime, do check out the page I linked in my earlier posts. It's got some really good tips on what each directory is for and some basic useful commands. If you want a good book on GNU/Linux, I recommend the O'Reilly Media "Running Linux, Fifth Edition" book. Very handy book for when you're working with GNU/Linux.
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/runlinux5/
There's also a small pocket guide called (appropriately enough
) "Linux Pocket Guide":http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxpg/
No good. I tried each depth too. It just boots into 800x600, and is unable to be changed. :?:
Code:
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection
Section "Files"
RgbPath "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/OTF"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
EndSection
Section "Module"
Load "GLcore"
Load "xtrap"
Load "dbe"
Load "dri"
Load "extmod"
Load "record"
Load "glx"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
EndSection
Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "NoAccel" # []
#Option "SWcursor" # []
#Option "Dac6Bit" # []
#Option "Dac8Bit" # []
#Option "DMAForXv" # []
#Option "ForcePCIMode" # []
#Option "CCEPIOMode" # []
#Option "CCENoSecurity" # []
#Option "CCEusecTimeout" #
#Option "AGPMode" #
#Option "AGPSize" #
#Option "RingSize" #
#Option "BufferSize" #
#Option "EnablePageFlip" # []
#Option "Display" #
#Option "PanelWidth" #
#Option "PanelHeight" #
#Option "ProgramFPRegs" # []
#Option "UseFBDev" # []
#Option "VideoKey" #
#Option "ShowCache" # []
#Option "VGAAccess" # []
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "ati"
VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc"
BoardName "Rage 128 RE/SG"
BusID "PCI:0:16:0"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
#Viewport 0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
#Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
EndSection
Do you still have any straggler xorg.conf or xorg.conf.new files in either the /root directory or your new user's home directory? If so, those will take precedence over the one in /etc/X11. Delete the ones in each user's respective home directory and try startx again.
Nope.
Hmm....try switching the driver in Section "Device" from "ati" to "r128" and see if this works. Sometimes the "ati" driver, while usually able to encompass all the ATI cards, doesn't always work well with the Rage 128 cards.
It didn't do anything.
Code:
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection
Section "Files"
RgbPath "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/OTF"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
EndSection
Section "Module"
Load "GLcore"
Load "xtrap"
Load "dbe"
Load "dri"
Load "extmod"
Load "record"
Load "glx"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
EndSection
Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "NoAccel" # []
#Option "SWcursor" # []
#Option "Dac6Bit" # []
#Option "Dac8Bit" # []
#Option "DMAForXv" # []
#Option "ForcePCIMode" # []
#Option "CCEPIOMode" # []
#Option "CCENoSecurity" # []
#Option "CCEusecTimeout" #
#Option "AGPMode" #
#Option "AGPSize" #
#Option "RingSize" #
#Option "BufferSize" #
#Option "EnablePageFlip" # []
#Option "Display" #
#Option "PanelWidth" #
#Option "PanelHeight" #
#Option "ProgramFPRegs" # []
#Option "UseFBDev" # []
#Option "VideoKey" #
#Option "ShowCache" # []
#Option "VGAAccess" # []
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "r128"
VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc"
BoardName "Rage 128 RE/SG"
BusID "PCI:0:16:0"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
#Viewport 0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
#Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
EndSection
Did you try changing the DefaultDepth to 16 and then modifying the Subsection "Display" that says Depth 16 to include Modes "1024x768"?
Yup.
Hmm......at this point I'm stumped. Let me modify it and post my changes. Try it out once it's up there by saving the text to xorg.conf and post back the results.
Ok, try these settings and see if they work for you. Save the following to your xorg.conf file in /etc/X11.
On the lines for the monitor's horizontal sync and vertical refresh, I put in the values for my monitor as a sample. Use the exact settings for your monitor so you don't damage it with the wrong settings. You can exclude my comments and the hash symbols before it in the actual xorg.conf file.
On the lines for the monitor's horizontal sync and vertical refresh, I put in the values for my monitor as a sample. Use the exact settings for your monitor so you don't damage it with the wrong settings. You can exclude my comments and the hash symbols before it in the actual xorg.conf file.
Code:
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection
Section "Files"
RgbPath "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/OTF"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
EndSection
Section "Module"
Load "xtrap"
Load "dbe"
Load "extmod"
Load "record"
Load "glx"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
HorizSync 31.5 - 87 # <--This line is a sample! Check the horiz. sync for your monitor!
VertRefresh 40-90 # <--This line is a sample! Check the vert. refresh for your monitor!
EndSection
Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "NoAccel" # []
#Option "SWcursor" # []
#Option "Dac6Bit" # []
#Option "Dac8Bit" # []
#Option "DMAForXv" # []
#Option "ForcePCIMode" # []
#Option "CCEPIOMode" # []
#Option "CCENoSecurity" # []
#Option "CCEusecTimeout" #
#Option "AGPMode" #
#Option "AGPSize" #
#Option "RingSize" #
#Option "BufferSize" #
#Option "EnablePageFlip" # []
#Option "Display" #
#Option "PanelWidth" #
#Option "PanelHeight" #
#Option "ProgramFPRegs" # []
#Option "UseFBDev" # []
#Option "VideoKey" #
#Option "ShowCache" # []
#Option "VGAAccess" # []
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "ati"
VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc"
BoardName "Rage 128 RE/SG"
BusID "PCI:0:16:0"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 16
SubSection "Display"
#Viewport 0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection
For the record, here's the information regarding the Rage 128 card in your B&W G3 from Low End Mac:
http://www.lowendmac.com/video/pci/rage-128.html
Looks as though it supports a nice high resolution, so it all depends on the resolution that your monitor supports.
http://www.lowendmac.com/video/pci/rage-128.html
Looks as though it supports a nice high resolution, so it all depends on the resolution that your monitor supports.
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] ]'> The stuff I had to enter is apparently correct. Now what do I do???
] ]'> The stuff I had to enter is apparently correct. Now what do I do???
Code:
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection
Section "Files"
RgbPath "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/OTF"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
EndSection
Section "Module"
Load "xtrap"
Load "dbe"
Load "extmod"
Load "record"
Load "glx"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
HorizSync 30 - 95
VertRefresh 50-200
EndSection
Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "NoAccel" # []
#Option "SWcursor" # []
#Option "Dac6Bit" # []
#Option "Dac8Bit" # []
#Option "DMAForXv" # []
#Option "ForcePCIMode" # []
#Option "CCEPIOMode" # []
#Option "CCENoSecurity" # []
#Option "CCEusecTimeout" #
#Option "AGPMode" #
#Option "AGPSize" #
#Option "RingSize" #
#Option "BufferSize" #
#Option "EnablePageFlip" # []
#Option "Display" #
#Option "PanelWidth" #
#Option "PanelHeight" #
#Option "ProgramFPRegs" # []
#Option "UseFBDev" # []
#Option "VideoKey" #
#Option "ShowCache" # []
#Option "VGAAccess" # []
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "ati"
VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc"
BoardName "Rage 128 RE/SG"
BusID "PCI:0:16:0"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 16
SubSection "Display"
#Viewport 0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection
Open up a terminal and type the following:
Post here the output of that command. I'm curious to see what the path is to the xorg.conf file.
When I do the above command on my Slackware box, it shows me the following:
Code:
cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep xorg.conf*When I do the above command on my Slackware box, it shows me the following:
Code:
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
It slides through a huge amount of text.
Anyways, it is /etc/X11/
Anyways, it is /etc/X11/
What is wrong with the xorg.conf screen stuff that is making desktops fail?
doing it a second (3rd, 4th…) time says no file or directory for I, grep, xorg.conf*, and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
oh, the first time, I was already in /etc/X11/ because I was editin xorg.conf
So what does this mean? how do I get startx to work again, preferably with a better resolution?
oh, the first time, I was already in /etc/X11/ because I was editin xorg.conf
So what does this mean? how do I get startx to work again, preferably with a better resolution?
No, it's not an "I"...it's the pipe symbol "|". Hold down shift and hit the backslash button.
Here's the command again:
Here's the command again:
Code:
cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep xorg.conf*
You forgot to include the wildcard at the end of "xorg.conf" that I included in the command above. This way, it will find anything that begins with "xorg.conf" in the name. The way you did it will only find exact matches.
I'm reviewing your xorg.conf file that you poster earlier to see if there's something wrong at that line.
I have a feeling that something might be awry in the way your have your formatting of the file. Are you copying the contents or retyping everything?
If you want, I can send you the file itself in the proper formatting. You would just have to move the file over to /etc/X11 yourself.
I'm reviewing your xorg.conf file that you poster earlier to see if there's something wrong at that line.
I have a feeling that something might be awry in the way your have your formatting of the file. Are you copying the contents or retyping everything?
If you want, I can send you the file itself in the proper formatting. You would just have to move the file over to /etc/X11 yourself.
I did it again right, and got exactly the same result.
I'm copy/pasting.
OK then...let me post it here again. I have a feeling it's a formatting issue (I noticed that SubSection "Display" was not indented, so I'm wondering if that's the problem).
Copy it verbatim...
Copy it verbatim...
Code:
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection
Section "Files"
RgbPath "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/OTF"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
EndSection
Section "Module"
Load "xtrap"
Load "dbe"
Load "extmod"
Load "record"
Load "glx"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
HorizSync 30 - 95
VertRefresh 50-200
EndSection
Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "NoAccel" # []
#Option "SWcursor" # []
#Option "Dac6Bit" # []
#Option "Dac8Bit" # []
#Option "DMAForXv" # []
#Option "ForcePCIMode" # []
#Option "CCEPIOMode" # []
#Option "CCENoSecurity" # []
#Option "CCEusecTimeout" #
#Option "AGPMode" #
#Option "AGPSize" #
#Option "RingSize" #
#Option "BufferSize" #
#Option "EnablePageFlip" # []
#Option "Display" #
#Option "PanelWidth" #
#Option "PanelHeight" #
#Option "ProgramFPRegs" # []
#Option "UseFBDev" # []
#Option "VideoKey" #
#Option "ShowCache" # []
#Option "VGAAccess" # []
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "ati"
VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc"
BoardName "Rage 128 RE/SG"
BusID "PCI:0:16:0"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 16
SubSection "Display"
#Viewport 0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection
No can do. I can't get on the internet with Linux to copy and paste since my xorg.conf file (and its backup) is non-functioning. [
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Well, that's what I was getting at if you were typing it all in since you didn't have the ability to launch a GUI. Mind you, you can still browse the web using the Links browser and copy the text using the GPM console mouse (that should have come up during the installation). If you do use Links, you might have to do it in blocks, but it's better than typing it all in.
Using either Links or Lynx you can capture a page dump from the command line to a file, then edit that with vi/emacs/pico. Might be easier than the mouse route without a GUI.
command -dump url > myfile
If for some reason you get source instead of the rendered page, add the -force-html option.
Excellent! Thanks for the tip, ChristTrekker.
How do I enter a command in Links? And do I type in what you put, or do I have to add etc/X11/xorg.conf somewhere in there?
BTW, I just got a 40% off promotional code from O'Reilly in my email, so I ordered Running Linux for only $29.95 instead of $49.95! [
] ]'>Quite. That isn't how mv works. But if you have a file named X11 and you try to move something else into /etc/X11 that you think is a directory, then X11 (the file) will be replaced with whatever you are moving.
That's why I always do mv blah.txt /etc/X11/.
If X11 isn't a directory, mv will complain.
Peace,
Drew
Great, I made the 666th view.
P.S. i haven't gotten a gui yet :'(
P.S. i haven't gotten a gui yet :'(