iBook G4 & Tiger

I have my 350MHz G3 running Tiger without a hitch.

I have an iBook G3 running Tiger (w/640 RAM) and it's fine

My iBook G4 800 runs flawlessly.

When I had my Lombard (G3 333) up and running, it ran Tiger. I can definitely say that it was MUCH more smooth than Panther or Jaguar.

my ibook G3 500 mhz with 386 mb ram runs tiger just fine

( it has too it doesnt have a working cd rom and only tiger boots off a usb drive)

An 800MHz G4 CPU is more than enough for Tiger.

Whether it is more than enough for Tiger and your apps of choice is purely subjective.

That being said, I don't know anyone who does FCP editing or Maya on an iBook. I think you should be just fine.

Just make sure you put as much memory as you can afford into that thing, and you should be fine.

Just make sure you put as much memory as you can afford into that thing, and you should be fine.

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yes i was running panther for a while under 128 mb on a imac G4 800 mhz and i can tell you it was no fun

i added 256 mb ram and that made a lot of difference

The CPU is plenty fast enough for Tiger.

You need at least 512MB RAM to run Tiger with acceptable speed, though.

HA! Tiger is running just fine with 256MB of my 350MHz iMac.....

That machine is capable of Leopard even, once you crack the limiter on the disc. It will have no problems with Tiger.

I am not so sure about Leopard. Oh it'll run ok. However that 32MB GPU is going to slow things down a tad. The overall user experience should be acceptable though.

I'm just not so sure about running Leo with a max of 640MB of RAM and that various apps for the user, plus background apps. I think it would be interesting to see what kind of performance he gets out of it.

Ibooks are nice machines. Someday I would like to own the original 500MHz IceBook. I was always intrigued by their looks and I know a 500MHz G3 is plenty fast for OS 9.

The 500MHz iBook's are amazing machines. Thats all I have to say.

That machine is capable of Leopard even, once you crack the limiter on the disc. It will have no problems with Tiger.

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limiter? explain...

leopard has an artificial limiter that prevent it from running on lower G4 systems the threshold of 867 mhz is totally arbitrary it can be fooled by an open firmware trick

all support for G3 systems however have been written out of the code for leopard though

http://lowendmac.com/osx/leopard/openfirmware.html

I wonder if someone could actually mod the code and add G3 support or a patch.

...yeah right

and rewrite mac os x in the mean time

there is no G3 support in leopard at all any more apple removed it from the code its gone a G4 is now the break off point

I wonder if someone could actually mod the code and add G3 support or a patch.

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Sure they could.

If they had access to the source code.

And a few good lawyers.

And deep pockets.

And....

Well, they theoretically do have access to the source code. In the form of Darwin. That's how XPostFacto was written, and Apple never took any legal action against that piece of software.

Of course, it also depends on at what level Apple removed G3 support. If it is solely in the kernel (which is open source,) then an XPostFacto-like hack could restore it. If it is in the GUI (which is closed source,) then we're out of luck. (Just as how 10.3 removed 603 and 604 support, even with XPostFacto. Although 10.2 didn't support pre-G3s until a later release of XPostFacto; it is possible that the current lack of support is due to lack of XPostFacto development effort, rather than technical impossibility.)

I have a PowerMac G4 500MHz that runs Tiger well. Before upgrading from Panther, however, I bumped the RAM to 512MB, and I think that's probably made the difference.

.....I don't know anyone who does FCP editing or Maya on an iBook..../quote]
I use my 1GHz iBook for FCP projects. It's not super fast, but I don't ever feel like I'm waiting for the iBook to catch up when doing stuff on the timeline and so forth.... rendering can take a while though but I just set that to go overnight... bigest render so far has only been a couple of hours anyway. Oh and exporting to various formats can take a while too....but sheesh ya gotta remeber it's just an iBook ;-)

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IIRC, Leopard was stripped of it's PowerPC G3 code at every possible level, from system core right down to bundled applications, such as iChat, for example.

Sweet!

Thanks for all the help, guys !

Is "Tiger" a free upgrade download from Apple.Com or do I hafta buy it ?

Sorry for the silly question lol

Just make sure you put as much memory as you can afford into that thing ....

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I have 1 GB -- is that OK ?

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1GB is most definitely enough for Tiger.

WootWoot! lol

Is "Tiger" a download or a retail product ?

:b&w:

Unfortunately, Tiger isn't being sold anymore by Apple themselves, although you may be able to find it retail if you look at smaller shops that had a bunch in stock when Leopard was released. You'd probably also be able to buy a retail copy on eBay.

Try to avoid the gray machine-specific discs from ebay, as well as talking about the other slightly-less-legal ways of acquiring it here on the forum.

Thanks, Cory !

Would it be OK ta ask if anyone has it for sale in TRADING POST section ?

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also tiger was only availble as a dvd

you had to send your dvd in to get a set of 6 cd's back

some retailers also stock the cd version but usually it is dvd

keep that in mind

Actually is 4 CD's.