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Use for an LC520?
Well, there are over 165,000 people on this island, so . . .
Besides, I don't use Ebay.
Besides, I don't use Ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/usr/sparkerm?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
this guy
looks like he is selling a ZOOM 56k modem too!
this guy
looks like he is selling a ZOOM 56k modem too!
His name is Stanley McKinnon out of 165,000 people, how many are Mac Freaks?
As much as I like vintage hardware, I dont think I will EVER go back to a modem...
The only reason I could see doing it would be if I somehow ended up with a Sega Saturn Netlink kit, and used it to play one of the online games (it's direct-dial, no servers needed). But I really don't see that happening.
I honestly have no idea. I used to belong to the local MUG, but that was, my gosh, over twenty years ago. I am sure that we are in the minority here, as we are everywhere else.
I don't know if you've read the Armageddon BBS home page yet, but one thing I mention in there is the "fabulous" speed I acquired back in the modem BBSing days. I started out with a borrowed 300 - 1200 baud Apple modem.
The neat thing is, with the introduction of telnet capabilties in BBS software -- such as in what I use, Hermes II -- we can still enjoy the "good old days" of BBSing without the snail-paced speeds of old modems.
To add to that, with emulators such as Basilisk II and SheepShaver -- I have both set up -- which emulate the Mac Classic environment, you can run your Old School BBS on the latest Macintosh computers, as I do, and it runs very fast. It's very nice indeed.
When I got acquainted with BBS systems, it was on an IBM PS/2 Model 30 286. With a Hayes 2400 baud modem on Telix... This was in early 96 or so, well into the WWW era. Even then BBS lists were still hung up in grocery stores.
I remember though, all I did was download DOS games and utilities. I would never download anything over 1 meg because it took too long.
I ended up catching some sort of dos virus on a BBS I went to, which led to the ultimate demise of my PS/2 as my boot disk was bad.
From then I moved onto a 386 with aol 3 and a 14.4k modem. Slowww web browsing I tell you that much.
I remember though, all I did was download DOS games and utilities. I would never download anything over 1 meg because it took too long.
I ended up catching some sort of dos virus on a BBS I went to, which led to the ultimate demise of my PS/2 as my boot disk was bad.
From then I moved onto a 386 with aol 3 and a 14.4k modem. Slowww web browsing I tell you that much.
Slow, yes, but you say slow from looking at it from a modern perspective.
As I have mentioned before, back then, our "slow" looked "fast" to us, because we had nothing else with which to compare it.
It is only now that we have true high-speed connections that we realize how slow things were back then.
But again, given the technology that was available to the public back then, it was not slow. We just learned to have patience.
Patience today? What's that? :
As I have mentioned before, back then, our "slow" looked "fast" to us, because we had nothing else with which to compare it.
It is only now that we have true high-speed connections that we realize how slow things were back then.
But again, given the technology that was available to the public back then, it was not slow. We just learned to have patience.
Patience today? What's that? :
I like how comcast sells you a 50meg internet connection but you only get 50-60 meg when you are in there network. Other wise you get only 3 to 11 Meg's most of the time once you actually hit the internet.
My friend, ALL business people over-exaggerate and hype up their products. It is a sad world that we live in.
I'll tell you what though: Be thankful for your 3 MB - 11 MB connection. The best I can get on my downstream is 2 MB / sec, and that is only with some connections.
And I can tell you that I am just about certain that I pay a lot more for my connection than you do for yours.
Moral of the story: There is always something to be thankful for.
I'll tell you what though: Be thankful for your 3 MB - 11 MB connection. The best I can get on my downstream is 2 MB / sec, and that is only with some connections.
And I can tell you that I am just about certain that I pay a lot more for my connection than you do for yours.
Moral of the story: There is always something to be thankful for.
Maybe comcast Will move to Guam and then we can all have 60 Mb
Ha! I doubt it. Most things are generally more expensive here than in the U.S. mainland, because we are an island which basically and totally depends on imports.
I won't even bother to mention the shipping companies who take advantage of the situation, or the local businesses who use our isolation and dependence on imports as an excuse to inflate their prices.
There was a time when my ISP totally monopolized the situation here. Now there are other options. Still, I bet you wouldn't be caught dead paying $115.00/month for a 15 MB connection.
You divide that 15,000 Mb by 8 bits, and what do you get?
How about 1.875 MB/sec on a good download connection. Sometimes I've seen it hit 2.0 MB/sec, but not too often.
I won't even bother to mention the shipping companies who take advantage of the situation, or the local businesses who use our isolation and dependence on imports as an excuse to inflate their prices.
There was a time when my ISP totally monopolized the situation here. Now there are other options. Still, I bet you wouldn't be caught dead paying $115.00/month for a 15 MB connection.
You divide that 15,000 Mb by 8 bits, and what do you get?
How about 1.875 MB/sec on a good download connection. Sometimes I've seen it hit 2.0 MB/sec, but not too often.
I remember going from 336 to ISDN twin 64k channels. Oooooo buddie.
My speed growth over the years:
300 to 1200 baud Apple modem --> 24 baud Hayes modem --> 14.4 modem (don't remember the brand) --> 56k U.S. Robotics modem --> DSL line (can't remember the speed, but faster than the U.S. Robotics modem --> 2.5 MB cable modem --> 7.0 MB cable modem --> 10.0 MB cable modem --> 15.0 MB cable modem.
The highest they offer is 30 MB cable modem, but my pocket is not that deep.
300 to 1200 baud Apple modem --> 24 baud Hayes modem --> 14.4 modem (don't remember the brand) --> 56k U.S. Robotics modem --> DSL line (can't remember the speed, but faster than the U.S. Robotics modem --> 2.5 MB cable modem --> 7.0 MB cable modem --> 10.0 MB cable modem --> 15.0 MB cable modem.
The highest they offer is 30 MB cable modem, but my pocket is not that deep.
But what I really find jaw-dropping is that I spent around $3K or so in 1993 to purchase a 25 MHz Mac LC III with 4 MB of RAM, a 160 MB hard drive, and I think a floppy disk drive, and a 13" or 14" 256-color monitor, and today for about the same price, you can purchase yourself a monster 24" or 27" iMac with so much more speed, memory, better graphics, huge hard drive, etc.
Man do they know how to yank our chain!
Man do they know how to yank our chain!
I agree. BUT..Slow, yes, but you say slow from looking at it from a modern perspective.
As I have mentioned before, back then, our "slow" looked "fast" to us, because we had nothing else with which to compare it.
It is only now that we have true high-speed connections that we realize how slow things were back then.
But again, given the technology that was available to the public back then, it was not slow. We just learned to have patience.
Patience today? What's that? :
it was slow for me then too. I remember getting pissed off when trying to obtain a 30 meg file over dialup 56K on AT&T, and it took forever. Then more and more sites getting convoluted, taking awhile to load. etc... On and on it goes
I think I can recall eBay being the first one I had issues with as time went on. Trying to keep up with bidding, or getting a bid in on dialup was a nightmare. I recall doing this on my 6100/66 with an external 56K modem. It was a tad bit faster on my P2 but not by much.
When sites were still like this: http://antiqueradio.org/gallery.htmDialup was fine
But when more and more sites started to get "animated" persay, loaded with javascript, etc is when it started to become noticeable for me.
Ha! A 30 MB file with a 56K dial-up connection??? No wonder you wanted to pull your hair out! Did you have any grandkids in the meantime? You know . . . while you were waiting for the file to download? 
Nope. But this was at a time when filesizes were starting to grow, exponentially. If I am not mistaken, I think i was trying to download Nero.
Also, I remember when I used to burn MP3s into CDs for all the kids at school (CD Burners were relatively expensive still, not everyone had one). 40 minutes to download 1 song. Those were the days.
I remember the highest connection negotiation I could get was 50666BPS. most of the time it connected in the upper 40s though.
Also, I remember when I used to burn MP3s into CDs for all the kids at school (CD Burners were relatively expensive still, not everyone had one). 40 minutes to download 1 song. Those were the days.
I remember the highest connection negotiation I could get was 50666BPS. most of the time it connected in the upper 40s though.
For some reason this discussion reminded me to check to see if Berkshire-Hathaway had updated their website at all since I last checked it a few years ago. Http://www.berkshirehathaway.com
I love that the richest investment portfolio in the US has the same all-text website they had in 1996.
I love that the richest investment portfolio in the US has the same all-text website they had in 1996.
And yet they still have an ad...
... for GEICO, a wholly owned subsidiary of Berkshire-Hathaway
Nah, not the most recent Mini: Apple have discontinued the quad-core models, darn it. They're fetching a pretty price on ebay now as a consequence.
Speaking of such shenanigans though, what ever happened to your '040 Classic project, MinerAl?
Wow, Bunsen! My eyes almost popped out of my head when I read that statement!
Then I conducted some quick online research and realized that you were in fact just talking about the Quad Core Mac Mini being discontinued. It made no sense to me that Apple would discontinue the Quad Core line as a whole.
It reminds me of the 500 MHz Dual Processor Graphite G4 mini-tower that I purchased years ago. I loved that machine because it had a DVD-RAM drive in it. Using Verbatim 9.4 GB DVD-RAM disks with it made it so much easier and quicker to backup my various servers. I am not sure, but I think that is what they referred to as the Sawtooth model.
Anyway, I am glad to see that Quad Cores aren't going anyway.
Bunsen: I hadn't seen that the quad-core minis were history. That and the RAM access issue make upgrading my 2011 mini filled classroom a bit problematic. Might have to return to an all PC environment.
The Quadra Classic is still half done. I sent an important cable from the monitor to a friend to have customized, and he has had a hard time getting it back to me. I'll get it accomplished regardless, I just have to make a new cable. The plastic surgery is done, I just need to pack it all in there and get the CC-5xx loom to talk to everything properly.
Losing all the pictures in that 17 page thread was kind of a bummer. Makes it harder to go back and figure out where the good info (as opposed to the fun but wild speculative technical fiction) is. Wthww was kind enough to send me the pics, but I can't edit them into posts from 2012-13.
Recent health scares (I'm fine now, I hope) had back-burnered a few projects, but I'm feeling the Mac modding itch again.
The Quadra Classic is still half done. I sent an important cable from the monitor to a friend to have customized, and he has had a hard time getting it back to me. I'll get it accomplished regardless, I just have to make a new cable. The plastic surgery is done, I just need to pack it all in there and get the CC-5xx loom to talk to everything properly.
Losing all the pictures in that 17 page thread was kind of a bummer. Makes it harder to go back and figure out where the good info (as opposed to the fun but wild speculative technical fiction) is. Wthww was kind enough to send me the pics, but I can't edit them into posts from 2012-13.
Recent health scares (I'm fine now, I hope) had back-burnered a few projects, but I'm feeling the Mac modding itch again.
I remember downloading large files with dialup. I once downloaded all four ISOs of Fedora Core 4 in fact. It took about a month :lol:
And one summer, I stumbled across some site that offered up the Windows For Workgroups 3.11 setup disks file by file, and I downloaded it, file by file. It took a LONG time (and it was very tedious, especially with Internet Explorer and it's lack of a proper download manager), but I think I was actually able to do it within a day or two.
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And one summer, I stumbled across some site that offered up the Windows For Workgroups 3.11 setup disks file by file, and I downloaded it, file by file. It took a LONG time (and it was very tedious, especially with Internet Explorer and it's lack of a proper download manager), but I think I was actually able to do it within a day or two.
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I'm thinking the reason why they arent doing the quad core in the Mac Mini is because they don't want to jeopardize any potential sales for the Mac Pro because of the power of the latest processors
Or they have just gone plain (mental) which if anyones seen the latest MacBook, kind of leads me to believe that this may be true. No ports? Yep. Mental.....
Or they have just gone plain (mental) which if anyones seen the latest MacBook, kind of leads me to believe that this may be true. No ports? Yep. Mental.....
Actually, it's because Intel didn't have the right chips more than anything. The 4570R is way too expensive for a Mini.
Excuses. Bah!
I'm with Hardcore SysOp.... I love BBS's... Believe it or not I used to log in during the 90's to many different ones through my Altos 886 Xenix Server.. with one of my connected Altos III terminals... I loved it!!!!!! I miss it... I was even trying to devise a way to make a table stand to hold my terminal over my bed and with the keyboard so I could chit chat while in bed and watchin TV... It never happened.. those damn arm (hospital like) terminal mounts were like 200 bucks.. I had just graduated from High School and couldn't afford crap!
Just signed up on his server... Sad thing is in life.. when your a kid you have the time but not the money... when you get older you have the money (mostly) but not the time... Funny how that works eh??
Just signed up on his server... Sad thing is in life.. when your a kid you have the time but not the money... when you get older you have the money (mostly) but not the time... Funny how that works eh??