Thread

1710AV - ADB required?

68kMLA PowerPC 16 posts Dec 4, 2008 to Dec 10, 2008

#1 Thu, 4 Dec 2008 - 00:29 68kMLA

So I got a 1710AV that i want to turn into a TV...

I had a 1710 YEARS ago and it proved nicely to be a good monitor.

Now to the AV part... does this need ADB to activate the speakers?

#2 Thu, 4 Dec 2008 - 00:56 68kMLA

I seem to recall that these needed ADB and a driver to run at anything other than 640x480. I think that the speakers just use a cable with minijacks at both ends, though, so that shouldn't be a problem.

#3 Thu, 4 Dec 2008 - 02:04 68kMLA

The AppleVision 1710 can run in two modes: "Macintosh", and "VESA". I believe it uses sense codes to detect what system it is connected to, and therefore, what mode to run in. Basically, when the display is connected to an older Mac, it runs in "Macintosh" mode, and as elbaroni says, does require ADB, as well as the AppleVision software to run at any resolution above 640x480, or use any of the colour calibration features.

However, if you connect it to a newer Mac, or a PC, it will run in "VESA" mode, which allows you to use the higher resolutions without requiring ADB. For example, at the moment I'm running my 1710AV on my tray loading iMac G3. The iMac has an ATI Rage Pro, rather than an older Apple video controller, and recognises the 1710AV as a standard "VGA Display", and sends the appropriate sense codes to the monitor, to put it into "VESA" mode. This works fine, and I can run the monitor at any resolution up to 1280x1024.

I'd take a stab that when you connect your digital STB to it, that it will put the display into VESA mode, which will allow you to access the higher resolutions.

The sound system built into them does not require ADB at all, as elbaroni said.

#4 Thu, 4 Dec 2008 - 02:43 68kMLA

Is that the same monitor that had the port at the side with a video camera icon next to it? What does that do? (Looks like an s-video port.)

#5 Thu, 4 Dec 2008 - 02:49 68kMLA

Nope, the 1710 definitely lacks that port, as does the 1710AV. It could be the AudioVision 14" Display or one of the Studio Displays that you're thinking of?

#6 Thu, 4 Dec 2008 - 02:51 68kMLA

Yeah, AudioVision 14 - that's it. What's it do?

#7 Thu, 4 Dec 2008 - 04:52 68kMLA

According to this, its an unsupported video input port that should have a cover over it.

#8 Thu, 4 Dec 2008 - 05:00 68kMLA

Derrrrrrrr ;D

#9 Thu, 4 Dec 2008 - 11:50 68kMLA

well now I just have to find my VGA -> mac adapter...

#10 Thu, 4 Dec 2008 - 13:39 68kMLA

The port on the AudioVision may be ap ort that provides power to the "Extra" pins on some of Apple's S-Video connectors, so you could get power to the QuickTime Conferencing Cam 100 without wasting the system's onboard SVideo port.

#11 Thu, 4 Dec 2008 - 15:07 68kMLA

I wonder how big of a factor port confusion was there. S-vid ports look identical to ADB...

#12 Thu, 4 Dec 2008 - 15:57 68kMLA

According to this, its an unsupported video input port that should have a cover over it.

I made that page! I also took the pictures. I have 2 AudioVisions. They're nice monitors.

#13 Fri, 5 Dec 2008 - 02:35 68kMLA

ok wtf... I found my VGA -> Mac adapter.

Hook it up to my MBP - it powers on fine and has audio

Hook it up to my DTV box - no video...

Both are native VGA connections.

According to my LCD I have hooked into the DTV box via VGA it's running at 1024x768...

Is there some sort of sync that the 1710 doesn't like?

#14 Fri, 5 Dec 2008 - 18:13 68kMLA

However, if you connect it to a newer Mac, or a PC, it will run in "VESA" mode, which allows you to use the higher resolutions without requiring ADB. For example, at the moment I'm running my 1710AV on my tray loading iMac G3. The iMac has an ATI Rage Pro, rather than an older Apple video controller, and recognises the 1710AV as a standard "VGA Display", and sends the appropriate sense codes to the monitor, to put it into "VESA" mode. This works fine, and I can run the monitor at any resolution up to 1280x1024.

8-o

Holy carp, I never knew that. I should stop throwing them out then [xx(] ]'>

#15 Sat, 6 Dec 2008 - 04:23 68kMLA

Holy carp, I never knew that. I should stop throwing them out then [xx(] ]'>

Yes, you should

If you can get a good one, they are quite a decent display.

#16 Wed, 10 Dec 2008 - 20:04 68kMLA

The 1710 monitors came with Mac DB15 to VGA monitor adaptor, allowing to connect them to standard PC graphics ports. Such adapter is provided with Radeon Mac edition cards, too. ADB is used to extend the ports from the back of the computer onto your desktop and to control the monitor settings in a comfortable way. In case a Mac with ADB is connected, the Apple Vision extension and control panel provide an excellent software interface to adjust the monitor. Manual adjustment is possible, as well.