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Lots of vintage software Software 39 posts Aug 9, 2009 — Aug 15, 2009
By now most of you know about the 500 floppy lot I won on eBay and what happened to the shipment. I still have just under 100 disks and I did promise to image them. A couple of you have volunteered to host the images and I appreciate that. I am going to start making some images tonight (after I post this). Now I'm just curious, what information should I include with the files and how should they be packaged (such as an img file, text file with info about the image file, and possibly a scan of the disk label all packed in a stuffit .sea). I was planning on putting the name of the disk, date, version number, and apple part number in.

To start off I am going to do about 12 disks and see how things go. Later on I will post a complete list of what I have.

You should do a .sea.bin of a folder with a descriptive name (IE: System 7.0 Diskset) containaining a file named Read Me First! and all of the disk images you have of that diskset. for single disk sets, do the same.

:)

I like .sea, but not .sea.bin. Otherwise a .img is fine.

The trouble is though, you can't transfer a .sea or a .img over the internet, without it being stripped of its resource fork - the file has to be in a format that doesn't use resource forks, such as BinHex (.hqx), MacBinary (.bin) or StuffIt (.sit or .sitx).

Yeah I'd like to see them imaged! Sorry what happened with the shipment :(

The trouble is though, you can't transfer a .sea or a .img over the internet, without it being stripped of its resource fork - the file has to be in a format that doesn't use resource forks, such as BinHex (.hqx), MacBinary (.bin) or StuffIt (.sit or .sitx).
My bad! :I xx(

Ok, I'll probably compress them as .sit then. Oh yeah, Its messy and for my cataloging purposes but this is a list of what I have done so far:

A text file with the Full name of the disk, copyright date, version and part number will be included with all images, and (known) multi disk software is grouped together.

Code:
Name                                                  Version            Notes

Apple Multiple Scan Software                      1.2               (2x)
Coach Merriam-Webster Thesaurus              1.0
Disk Tools                                               7.0         690-5684-A
Disk Tools Centris 660AV Quadra 840av        1.0         (2x)
Disk Tools (Macintosh Processor Upgrade)     7.5
Disk Tools PwrBk 160 & 180                         7.1
Disk Tools Quadra 605                               1.0
Ethertalk Installer                                     2.0.1 
FWB CD-Rom Toolkit                                  3.0.2      (Damaged)
ImageWriter LQ Disk 1                                UNK        689-0045-A      
Install Me First (Color Classic)                     1.0.4      (Damaged)
Install Me First (PB 165c)                            7.1        (Damaged)
Install Me First (PB 160,165,180,165c,180c)  1.0.3
Install SE FDHD                                          7.1
Install SE FDHD 2                                       7.1
PowerBook 150 Additions                            1.0
PowerBook 150 Disk Tools                          1.0
PowerBook 150 Goodies                              7.1.2
PowerBook 150 Printing & Fonts                  7.1.2 
Powerbook Express Modem                        1.1
Printer Software Disk 2                             2.1.1      (Damaged)
Printer software Disk 3                             2.0        (Damaged)
Macintosh Before You Install                      1.0        690-0231-A
Macintosh Fonts                                      7.0.1        (2x)
Macintosh Fonts                                       7.1
Macintosh Hypercard and Stacks               1.0
Macintosh Hypercard and Stacks               1.2.5
Macintosh Printing                                   7.0.1      (Damaged)
Macintosh Printing                                    7.1          (2x)
Macintosh Printing Tools                           UNK         (Plain disk)
Macintosh Printing Tools                              1.0
Macintosh Printing Tools                            6.0.7
Macintosh LaserWriter IISC Fonts                 1.0        (Damaged)
Macintosh System 7 Tune-Up                      1.0          (2x)
Macintosh Tidbits                                      7.1          (2x)
Macintosh Utilities                                     UNK        (Date 1986, 690-5142)
Macintosh Utilities                                     7.1P4
Macintosh Utilities Disk 1                             5.0 
Macintosh Utilities Disk 2                            5.0
Macintosh Utilities Disk 2                           6.0.4
Macintosh Utilities Disk 1                           6.0.7
Oregon Trail                                           1.1
QuckDraw GX Disk 1    (System 7.5)           1.1
QuckDraw GX Disk 2    (System 7.5)           1.1
SuperMac Diskfit                                     2.0       (Damaged)
System Tools                                         6.0       (Damaged)
System Tools                                         6.0.4
If you want, i can PM you an FTP username and password so you can upload them when you are done imaging them

You ought to make use of the Terminal.

Put all of the .img files into a folder in the root directory of your hard drive. We'll name the folder "image"

Now, open the terminal and type this command:

Code:
gzip --best -r /image
In less than a second, all of the .img files will be gzipped and can then be safely transmitted about the Internet. Bonus-- users of every major computer platform will be able to extract .gz files, as opposed to the formats mentioned earlier, which are rather rare on systems other than the Mac.

Um... loss of resource forks?

I would reccomend plain, old Zip. Easily readable on all platforms.

If you would gzip them, then you might as well image them with ShrinkWrap into MS-DOS images (or convert them with ShrinkWrap), writeable with rawrite and usable in emulaters!

If you want, i can PM you an FTP username and password so you can upload them when you are done imaging them
Yeah, that would be good, but I'm not sure when I'll get to the rest of the disks or if its even worth it as most of them are partial sets (such as having only disks 1 and 7 of a 7.5 install)

I still have a few more to do though.

You ought to make use of the Terminal.
Put all of the .img files into a folder in the root directory of your hard drive. We'll name the folder "image"

Now, open the terminal and type this command:

Code:
gzip --best -r /image
In less than a second, all of the .img files will be gzipped and can then be safely transmitted about the Internet. Bonus-- users of every major computer platform will be able to extract .gz files, as opposed to the formats mentioned earlier, which are rather rare on systems other than the Mac.
My G3 runs 9.2.2.

If you want, i can PM you an FTP username and password so you can upload them when you are done imaging them
Yeah, that would be good, but I'm not sure when I'll get to the rest of the disks or if its even worth it as most of them are partial sets (such as having only disks 1 and 7 of a 7.5 install)
PMming...

And Mac Hut has Shrinkwrap, I reccomend imaging or converting to MS-DOS imaged (raw) with it.

If you don't do that, make sure to .bin them.

Please don't .sit them... it is a pain to decompress.

:)

Oh, and you might as well do all of them. If you want, I could fill in some of the missing SSW disks via the Legacy CD.

My G3 runs 9.2.2.
Well then, do it on a Unix or Linux machine.

My G3 runs 9.2.2.
Well then, do it on a Unix or Linux machine.
Um... Gzipping would lose resource forks.

Just .bin the images. its easily decoded.

Also, not everyone has a Linux or Unix machine. (although I personaly do :) )

I was going to do them as .sit but If I need to do them a different way I will figure it out.

I have version 7.0.3. Is that a problem?

Edit: I just finished uploading a test file. can you check it and make sure I did it right?

I have version 7.0.3. Is that a problem?
Edit: I just finished uploading a test file. can you check it and make sure I did it right?
For really old macs, yes. If you want, i'll convert it to pre-Stuffit 5 format.

Oh, and try and see if the link i provided above works on os 9.

Which link? I'm currently working with two computers as my browser in os9 doesn't work on these forums ever since the upgrade. Just let me know, and I'll check it out manually after I get home from work as I have to leave now.

Code:
http://machut.valleyofthelights.com/files/util/compression/StuffIt%201.6.1.sit
It worked for me. I'm going to finish imaging what I have left to do, along with some of my (meager) original collection.

Oh yeah, I have several disks left to do, however most of them are partial disk sets. Would it be worth it to upload say disks 1 and 7 of system 7.5, disks 2 and 3 of 7.5 2.0, disk 2 of a color stylewriter 2500 install etc.

System 7.5 is already out there. Are they white disks with a red printing and red arrow? If so, then I've already got the whole set, and I'm sure that others do as well.

Are we going to get to download them soon? :)

Probably so.

Whenever macgeek releases them you will. There's about 43 items I uploaded that I believe should be complete working images. I don't have much more to do. I need to break up a couple things that wouldn't upload and upload them separate. I hope I don't disappoint anyone because I was not able to upload everything due to most of it being lost in the mail. I needed a bit of a break as it took me about 4 hours straight to finish imaging what I had left, compress them all individually, then upload them.

Here is the complete list of what I have minus the partial (unusable) disk sets. The damaged ones I will try to get working if possible and hopefully will be able to image.

Code:
Name                                        Version      Notes

A Closer look at Your IISI                   UNK       690-5967-A
Apple Multiple Scan Software                 1.2         (2x)
Applecat SE                                  3.0         Plain Disk
Coach Merriam-Webster Thesaurus              1.0
Color StyleWriter 2200 Installation          2.1
Disk Tools                                   7.0         690-5684-A
Disk Tools Centris 660AV Quadra 840av        1.0         (2x)
Disk Tools (Macintosh Processor Upgrade)     7.5
Disk Tools PwrBk 160 & 180                   7.1
Disk Tools Quadra 605                        1.0
Ethertalk Installer                          2.0.1 
FWB CD-Rom Toolkit                           3.0.2      (Damaged)
HP Deskwriter Font Disk 1                    6.0.2
HP Printer Fonts for the Macintosh           8.0
ImageWriter LQ Disk 1                        UNK        689-0045-A      
Install Me First (Color Classic)             1.0.4      (Damaged)
Install Me First (PB 165c)                   7.1        (Damaged)
Install Me First (PB 160,165,180,165c,180c)  1.0.3
Install SE FDHD                              7.1
Install SE FDHD 2                            7.1
Intellegent Battery Recondition              1.0.1      (Plain disk)
Kodak 450GL Printer Driver                   1.0
LaserWriter 300 Install
Pegleg                                       UNK       (Damaged)
Photomaker                                   1.0
PowerBook 150 Additions                      1.0
PowerBook 150 Disk Tools                     1.0
PowerBook 150 Goodies                        7.1.2
PowerBook 150 Printing & Fonts               7.1.2 
Powerbook Express Modem                      1.1
Printer Software Disk 2                      2.1.1      (Damaged)
Printer software Disk 3                      2.0        (Damaged)
Printer Software Color SW 2400 Disk 1        1.6          (2x)
Printing & Fonts                             7.1.2
Macintosh Before You Install                 1.0        690-0231-A
Macintosh Fonts                              7.0.1        (2x)
Macintosh Fonts                              7.1
Macintosh Hypercard and Stacks               1.0
Macintosh Hypercard and Stacks               1.2.5
Macintosh Hy7perCard Ideas                   UNK         (690-5562-A)
Macintosh Printing                           7.0.1      (Damaged)
Macintosh Printing                           7.1          (2x)
Macintosh Printing Tools                     UNK        (Plain disk)
Macintosh Printing Tools                     1.0
Macintosh Printing Tools                     6.0.7
Macintosh LaserWriter IISC Fonts             1.0        (Damaged)
Macintosh System 7 Tune-Up                   1.0          (2x)
Macintosh Tidbits                            7.1          (2x)
Macintosh Utilities                          UNK        (Date 1986, 690-5142)
Macintosh Utilities                          7.1P4
Macintosh Utilities Disk 1                   5.0 
Macintosh Utilities Disk 2                   5.0
Macintosh Utilities Disk 2                   6.0.4
Macintosh Utilities Disk 1                   6.0.7
Microsoft Works Program Disk                 2.0
Oregon Trail                                 1.1
QuickDraw GX Disk 1    (System 7.5)          1.1
QuickDraw GX Disk 2    (System 7.5)          1.1
Quickmail For Macintosh Admin Utilities      2.6
Suitcase II Updater (400k disk)              UNK       (330-00391-300)
SuperMac Diskfit                             2.0       (Damaged)
System 7.5 Install Disk 1                    1.0         (2x)
System 7.5 Install Disk 7                    1.0
System Tools                                 6.0       (Damaged)
System Tools                                 6.0.4
Truetype Font Disk Apple Computer            UNK        (Plain disk)
if you want, i could PM you my email address and you could send them to me that way. No need to segment them!

:)

Are we going to get to download them soon? :)
Yes! When i'm finished uploading them to my webserver.

(Which also contains such rarities such as a noncorrupted Classic ROM and an SE FDHD ROM)

OK... I got the other 3 files and am uploading them right now. if you allready downloaded the othere, look for 3 new files named "Personal LW 320 Espanol.sit" "PowerBook 150 Toold.sit" and "Quickdraw GX SYS 7.5.sit" in about 5 minutes-ish.

If there is a file named .pureftpd-upload.blahblahblah then i'm still uploading.

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