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Mac SE smooth body
Heres a few pictures of an SE I got in a lot last year. The front case is totally smooth.
Back case looks like ordinary se case. Don't know whats original or swapped.
I opened it up and found whats in the pictures. The power lead from the A/B to the motherboard has been extended and wired directly into the motherboard.
Theres no drives and I get the chequred board when switched on.
Have not tried to do anything with it yet - I have 2 of these and there both the same.
is this just a normal se or can anyone spot anything unusual about it
its added 2 pics of my DIY scsi cd rom drive - don't know why
Back case looks like ordinary se case. Don't know whats original or swapped.
I opened it up and found whats in the pictures. The power lead from the A/B to the motherboard has been extended and wired directly into the motherboard.
Theres no drives and I get the chequred board when switched on.
Have not tried to do anything with it yet - I have 2 of these and there both the same.
is this just a normal se or can anyone spot anything unusual about it
its added 2 pics of my DIY scsi cd rom drive - don't know why
k, so with the passing of my pismo (moment of silence please), I shopped around, and came across wegner media, which is selling 500mhz icebooks for a awesome deal of $200. plus, it's warrented for 60 days. It's the CD-ROM model, but I think I can swap in the DVD from my pismo. It also has only 128mb of ram, 64 soldered and 64 on a stick. I have a 256mb module, but it is one of those fat, 16 chip kinds. I am trading it with some parts from the pismo for a 256mb module that has 8 chips, and will fit. My airport card will work as well (don't you love the universility of apple? ). I will also be swapping out the 10gb HD for my 80gb I got for my pismo, which is how it died.
one thing I did not realise, is the thing is on a 66mhz bus, and my pismo and B&W are on a 100mhz bus. However, the thing runs a 500mhz 750cx compaired to the 400mhz 750s in both machines. So, who knows? it might just be a smidgon faster. 320mb is also plenty for tiger. I ran it on 384 in the pismo, and run it on 512 in the B&W.
so, who else is a fan of these things? Let's just hope it's not a SweatBook. But that appears to be totally random.
-digital
one thing I did not realise, is the thing is on a 66mhz bus, and my pismo and B&W are on a 100mhz bus. However, the thing runs a 500mhz 750cx compaired to the 400mhz 750s in both machines. So, who knows? it might just be a smidgon faster. 320mb is also plenty for tiger. I ran it on 384 in the pismo, and run it on 512 in the B&W.
so, who else is a fan of these things? Let's just hope it's not a SweatBook. But that appears to be totally random.
-digital
Typical SE, though the scratches and other things on the board looks like somebody tried to tamper or repair it and did not know what they were doing.
Fourth pic down, looks like there is a short with the inner ADB Port with the power or ground line. Clean it up and remove the short. It looks like they may have blown the ADB Bournes filter and tried to circumvent it but failed.
If the SIMMs Match, looks like you got 2megs on the board.
Sixth picture down, that chip and socket has some scratches as if somebody tried to remove the chip. There is also some corrosion on the pins.
Looks like you have the 800K ROMs with the IWM, though you can upgrade that later on after you get it fixed (fifth pic). But according from what I'm reading, its a ROM or chip issue, see Dead Mac Scrolls Page 174. Also see "Upgrading your Mac SE with a Super Drive", link: http://www.ccadams.org/se/super.html . It could be some corrosion on the socket or chips as comparing it to the site link your ROMs/IWM look to be in the right place.
It's fixable. The case needs some RetroBrite. The frame is bent and needs some straightening. And you will need the frames for the floppy and hard drives. First thing's first - getting it fixed. Chances are it needs a recap. Get it done while fixing it.
Before I forget, ccadadams.org has a SE service guide in PDF: http://www.ccadams.org/se/MacSEservice.pdf
And your front bezel is from a SE/30.
Fourth pic down, looks like there is a short with the inner ADB Port with the power or ground line. Clean it up and remove the short. It looks like they may have blown the ADB Bournes filter and tried to circumvent it but failed.
If the SIMMs Match, looks like you got 2megs on the board.
Sixth picture down, that chip and socket has some scratches as if somebody tried to remove the chip. There is also some corrosion on the pins.
Looks like you have the 800K ROMs with the IWM, though you can upgrade that later on after you get it fixed (fifth pic). But according from what I'm reading, its a ROM or chip issue, see Dead Mac Scrolls Page 174. Also see "Upgrading your Mac SE with a Super Drive", link: http://www.ccadams.org/se/super.html . It could be some corrosion on the socket or chips as comparing it to the site link your ROMs/IWM look to be in the right place.
It's fixable. The case needs some RetroBrite. The frame is bent and needs some straightening. And you will need the frames for the floppy and hard drives. First thing's first - getting it fixed. Chances are it needs a recap. Get it done while fixing it.
Before I forget, ccadadams.org has a SE service guide in PDF: http://www.ccadams.org/se/MacSEservice.pdf
And your front bezel is from a SE/30.
Cheers Elfen.
This machine is 1 of a haul of about 20 macs I got from a guy in cork who spent years 'fiddeling' with macs. When I got there they were all in a mobile home, that was in a hay barn - basically out doors, damp!!!
I got most of them restored and fully operational.
I have 3 mac plus's , and 2 of these SE's to go. But I got burnt out!!! - put them all away for a few months. Most of the machines had developed rust on the metal.
He did not remove any of the batterys, and many had started to leak - amazingly none had caused fatal damage.
I got a box of scsi drives from him as well - sadly most had rusted. But I have floppy drives and a scsi to put into this. Just have to get the time.
I lost a year of my life in 'Mac Liberation' land - im in recovery at the mo! - but will have a go at this one soon - and ill try what you suggest.
Thanks Elfen
This machine is 1 of a haul of about 20 macs I got from a guy in cork who spent years 'fiddeling' with macs. When I got there they were all in a mobile home, that was in a hay barn - basically out doors, damp!!!
I got most of them restored and fully operational.
I have 3 mac plus's , and 2 of these SE's to go. But I got burnt out!!! - put them all away for a few months. Most of the machines had developed rust on the metal.
He did not remove any of the batterys, and many had started to leak - amazingly none had caused fatal damage.
I got a box of scsi drives from him as well - sadly most had rusted. But I have floppy drives and a scsi to put into this. Just have to get the time.
I lost a year of my life in 'Mac Liberation' land - im in recovery at the mo! - but will have a go at this one soon - and ill try what you suggest.
Thanks Elfen
Actually, this is Elfen's youngest daughter Nicole while he is in the hospital with a severe allergy reaction he's recovering from. Dad has taught his girls a great deal about computers and technology.
From what I know of these old Macs, this is fixable, and I would like to see you do it. One step at a time, I guess. But as you seen, I posted what I see through the pics posted. I'm glad you have the ability to fix them up, not many people do. To us and dad, it is not what we have done in the past but what we can do now from what we did in the past. You lost a year? That's nothing. I seen people lose decades and I'm only 29. You can do this, just take it one step at a time.
So lets claps our hands, warm up the soldering iron and get this kitten yowling!
From what I know of these old Macs, this is fixable, and I would like to see you do it. One step at a time, I guess. But as you seen, I posted what I see through the pics posted. I'm glad you have the ability to fix them up, not many people do. To us and dad, it is not what we have done in the past but what we can do now from what we did in the past. You lost a year? That's nothing. I seen people lose decades and I'm only 29. You can do this, just take it one step at a time.
So lets claps our hands, warm up the soldering iron and get this kitten yowling!
ok, looked it up, and the slot loaders did not come around on the iBooks until the G4s. That's a long span of time for a transition.
btw, Cory backed out of my pismo parts dealing, so I almost cancelled the iBook transaction, until I realised this is a much smaller machine, and is just as powerful. Look for my pismo in the PX.
-digital
btw, Cory backed out of my pismo parts dealing, so I almost cancelled the iBook transaction, until I realised this is a much smaller machine, and is just as powerful. Look for my pismo in the PX.
-digital
ok, got the machine yesterday. it is really nice. The only gripe I have is the original 10gb HD is too small, and runs really hot. Other than that, it is rock stable under 10.3.9 on 192mb of ram.
oh yeah, wegner made it impossible to work in the machine wthout voiding the warrenty, so I will have to wait for the 60 days to burn up before I install my 80gb. They do allow you to install an airport card, but not RAM, but I managed to fold the ram cover over without breaking the seal.
-digital
oh yeah, wegner made it impossible to work in the machine wthout voiding the warrenty, so I will have to wait for the 60 days to burn up before I install my 80gb. They do allow you to install an airport card, but not RAM, but I managed to fold the ram cover over without breaking the seal.
-digital
Thanks, and dad says thanks! He's much better today than he was earlier this week, but the hospital would not release him today. He will be released on Monday. It was something he ate that caused havok with his digestive system, but bed rest and certain meds and everyone's hopes and prayers helped out. Its a matter of finding out what he ate that caused this. When it comes to food allergies, one needs to be Sherlock Holmes and not a medical doctor.
They are bastards like that. That has always been the case. I bought a 5300 back in 2002 that had stickers over the screws that allow you to open the keyboard!
Those parts are user-serviceable per the Apple documentation, so there is no possible way that they can enforce that restriction against the warranty. I say go ahead and make the changes you want to make. Besides, unless you do something to break it during the installation, if your Pismo is working fine now, it's not likely to physically break out of the blue in the next 60 days.
Peace,
Drew
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Those parts are user-serviceable per the Apple documentation, so there is no possible way that they can enforce that restriction against the warranty. I say go ahead and make the changes you want to make. Besides, unless you do something to break it during the installation, if your Pismo is working fine now, it's not likely to physically break out of the blue in the next 60 days.
Peace,
Drew
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OlePigeon, thanks. Yeah, a food dairy. Now the places he goes to eat are going to think he's a food critique. 
Falen5, What you think, ROM issue or corrosion on the sockets and other places? So many places to start at on this one. As long as it gets this far it's a good sign.
Falen5, What you think, ROM issue or corrosion on the sockets and other places? So many places to start at on this one. As long as it gets this far it's a good sign.
ok, swapped the drives. There were only 3 labels I had to break, but that's OK. I need to find something to remove the silver residue that leaves "void" on the plastic. Any ideas?
the procedure only took a little less than 2 hours from open to shut, which was surprising, because there are at least 2 dozen screws, and the splitting of the plastic (bottom case from the top). Only side effect I am having is the sleep light is not glowing a little more (out the bottom case), but that's only cosmetic. Not to mention a few "mushings" of the plastic when I pryed the bottom case off. I did not have a "spudger", whatever the hell that is, so I used a small flat head screwdriver.
Bless those iFixit guides.
now I have a nice 80gb 9really, 74.39gb) to play with, which is nice. Plus I really do see a speed increase going from 4200 to 5400RPMs. and the S.M.A.R.T. stats are nice, especailly the temperature, which gives me a general feel as to how warm the computer is (currently 123.8F).
-digital
the procedure only took a little less than 2 hours from open to shut, which was surprising, because there are at least 2 dozen screws, and the splitting of the plastic (bottom case from the top). Only side effect I am having is the sleep light is not glowing a little more (out the bottom case), but that's only cosmetic. Not to mention a few "mushings" of the plastic when I pryed the bottom case off. I did not have a "spudger", whatever the hell that is, so I used a small flat head screwdriver.
Bless those iFixit guides.
now I have a nice 80gb 9really, 74.39gb) to play with, which is nice. Plus I really do see a speed increase going from 4200 to 5400RPMs. and the S.M.A.R.T. stats are nice, especailly the temperature, which gives me a general feel as to how warm the computer is (currently 123.8F).
-digital