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Powermac 6100: Internal ZIP Drive Hack
Guess what? This guy wants a zip drive in his computer.
Does it matter if they are obsolete?
No. Floppies are already obsolete as well.
Personal preference beats public opinion.
A zip = ~80 floppies.
Cites:
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/04/sony-announces-the-death-of-the-floppy-disk/
Does it matter if they are obsolete?
No. Floppies are already obsolete as well.
Personal preference beats public opinion.
A zip = ~80 floppies.
Cites:
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/04/sony-announces-the-death-of-the-floppy-disk/
Lets be careful, O1M, you're only allowed to beat your drum in my hacks threads, remember! 
Stuff thats boring: People trying to tell other people what to do with THEIR property.
Stuff that's awesome: The things I am learning from this thread and those like it. I'm not in any hurry to hack up my macs, but I sure am grateful someone is.
Stuff that's awesome: The things I am learning from this thread and those like it. I'm not in any hurry to hack up my macs, but I sure am grateful someone is.
Oh yeah, OOMps!Lets be careful, O1M, you're only allowed to beat your drum in my hacks threads, remember!
Before I get misinterpreted for...
I'm not saying one thing, then contradicting myself later. I'm okay with ZIP drives being fitted in a mac IF:
-The owner of the mac/computer does a clean job at the hack (NONE OF THIS!)
-If possible, the hack can reverted back to stock configuration, should Zip go TU in some horrible way or you just don't want a Zip drive anymore.
Like said, it's not OUR mac to say what can be done with. It's HIS. Our only concern is that there's been a few mac hacks which orginally looked REALLY nasty but got a lot of attention and later revisions that were a lot more cleaned up but did not get the same amout of time in the spotlight. The idea is that if it's clean from the start it's okay for future attempts to be a bit more messy.
I might still have my 6150/66 WGS sitting around somewhere for a mod. Always loved that wide-pizzabox form factor. Too bad I cut a ton of holes in the top of the case as a kid to keep it from randomly rebooting due to overheating.
I can't find a pic now, but I remember back in the Color Classic forum on applefritter's hey day, there was some dude on eBay who'd put a Zip drive into a CC by cutting out a nice .75"x4" hole where the floppy slot used to be and flush mounting a regular internal Zip there. It made those poor CCs even hideous-er. Seems like he was selling them for a couple hundred even back then. Don't know if anybody ever bought one.
Of course this was back when a Zip drive was a legit upgrade to a still useful machine. I recall buying a 128MB USB thumb drive around then for $130 and thinking it was a steal to get close to the 1M for $1 range.
GAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8-o
That's a Japanese saw, right?
lol :lol:
that is some precision.
Acid, must find lots of acid to burn my eyeballs to oblivion!!!!!!!
That's awful. The one I was thinking of was a little more professionally done, and definitely a CC, but what a great illustration of the difference between careless hack-ing and the careful case hack craft you see around here.
I like the way he almost got it to line up straight.
More interesting choice of tools from the Dollar Store. That coping saw is designed to cut curves for butting the inside corner joints of mouldings, wood butchers miter inside corners on a chop saw, but with modern drywall instead of plaster on lath, it works well enough.
Thank goodness this butcher didn't own a Japanese pull saw or a Dremel Tool . . .
. . . how well do blood stains wash off a Mac case? :?:
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Ordinarily, we probably shouldn't be ridiculing a hack with this much . . . dunno, hard to put a finger on the right word for it . . .
. . . but when the perpetrator reviews something like this with the refrain: "yuck, oh well . . ." I think it's probably fair game.
I'll give him an A for effort and the stones to try a first hack and document such results on the WWW. We all learn something from the process of making, and admitting to making, mistakes.
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I almost hate to admit it, but it's beginning to grow on me . . .
. . . if he'd cut the case up into a few good sized, really nasty lookin' chunks, drill badly spaced holes and stitch it up like a baseball . . .
. . . I think I could live with it, especially if he painted each chunk to match different case colors from later Macs. }
More interesting choice of tools from the Dollar Store. That coping saw is designed to cut curves for butting the inside corner joints of mouldings, wood butchers miter inside corners on a chop saw, but with modern drywall instead of plaster on lath, it works well enough.
Thank goodness this butcher didn't own a Japanese pull saw or a Dremel Tool . . .
. . . how well do blood stains wash off a Mac case? :?:
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Ordinarily, we probably shouldn't be ridiculing a hack with this much . . . dunno, hard to put a finger on the right word for it . . .
. . . but when the perpetrator reviews something like this with the refrain: "yuck, oh well . . ." I think it's probably fair game.
I'll give him an A for effort and the stones to try a first hack and document such results on the WWW. We all learn something from the process of making, and admitting to making, mistakes.
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I almost hate to admit it, but it's beginning to grow on me . . .
. . . if he'd cut the case up into a few good sized, really nasty lookin' chunks, drill badly spaced holes and stitch it up like a baseball . . .
. . . I think I could live with it, especially if he painted each chunk to match different case colors from later Macs. }
They're never removable. You can't restore a widened floppy slot.
But isn't the change in width marginal, Only about 5mm on each side?
This guy never gives up..
I love my Performa 6115. Its one of the most reliable Macs I've ever owned. The little dude ran for over 2 years straight without a reboot as my LocalTalk to Eithernet bridge. 72MB of RAM and 9.2.1
He'd better start trying to give a bit of it up.
Just buy a second Mac with a Zip drive installed, tear it out, bondo the hole in the bezel to the size of a floppy slot, install the freakin' FDD and get it out of your system already, kid!
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No pestering the other hackers, you've made your point. Keep this nonsense restricted to my threads, in your sig, and paste a smile on it! LAST warning!
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Actually some us think onlyonemac has got a point, though it is being somewhat obsessive-compulsively pursued. (And what isn't around here?)
However, onlyonemac, best let it rest. What you need to know is that not everyone here is into hacks and modifications. Discussions ebb and flow over the months and years. At the moment, there is much talk of hacks, partly owing to a few vocal members. The dynamics will change eventually.
In the meantime, concentrate on the threads that interest you, most likely those that are about stock machines, setups, software and restorations. Add some of your own. I'd say what you most need are some new machines to restore, and for that, this forum is still the best place to find help anywhere on the web.
However, onlyonemac, best let it rest. What you need to know is that not everyone here is into hacks and modifications. Discussions ebb and flow over the months and years. At the moment, there is much talk of hacks, partly owing to a few vocal members. The dynamics will change eventually.
In the meantime, concentrate on the threads that interest you, most likely those that are about stock machines, setups, software and restorations. Add some of your own. I'd say what you most need are some new machines to restore, and for that, this forum is still the best place to find help anywhere on the web.
If there was ever a reason for me to remove my Zip mod in my SE, I have a spare bezel.
I left a trail of Cheerios to find my way back if need be. However, having a the zip drive inside is nice, as I don't have that huge wall wart to power it and I can literally just pick this thing up and go, only one cord from the wall, or honestly since its the universal cord, I don't even need to go that far..
Now back onto the 6100:
Uniserver: are you good with plastic work? I mean bondo, or epoxy, resin, whatever?
Maybe you could cut out the zip section of a g3 AIO and "replace" the floppy slot and fuze it back together?
or just find a zip bezel from a
g3 desktop?
I left a trail of Cheerios to find my way back if need be. However, having a the zip drive inside is nice, as I don't have that huge wall wart to power it and I can literally just pick this thing up and go, only one cord from the wall, or honestly since its the universal cord, I don't even need to go that far..
Now back onto the 6100:
Uniserver: are you good with plastic work? I mean bondo, or epoxy, resin, whatever?
Maybe you could cut out the zip section of a g3 AIO and "replace" the floppy slot and fuze it back together?
or just find a zip bezel from a
g3 desktop?
Filing out the existing FDD opening is the only way to avoid painting the case.
Doing a perfect job of fusing is near impossible, even when the parts align just so.
A chemical weld, glue bond or a plastic welding bead still shows.
When you sand any of the parts off to equalize levels and contours of the surfaces the texture is removed from those surfaces.
There has been no successful texture renewal process documented to my knowledge.
BTW, Bondo for auto body work is a terrible choice, there are activated fillers with the sanding characteristics of construction materials that are far more suitable for working ABS case parts these days.
@ beachycove: I agree with you, he has a very good point . . . up to a point . . . he has gone far beyond that point . . .
We've been in touch in PM and in his thread, which was locked because he pushed it too far even there. I tried to leave it unlocked to preserve his bully pulpit, but it didn't work out that way. He can hound me all he wants in my threads, so long as he puts a friendly face on it, I've got a thick skin. However he's agreed to stop beating his drum in other hackers threads, that was the deal.
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The good natured kidding of, and about, O1M that has been taking place is beginning to feel a little less good natured, keep it civil gang.
Extremism from either side of this issue will not be tolerated.
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Doing a perfect job of fusing is near impossible, even when the parts align just so.
A chemical weld, glue bond or a plastic welding bead still shows.
When you sand any of the parts off to equalize levels and contours of the surfaces the texture is removed from those surfaces.
There has been no successful texture renewal process documented to my knowledge.
BTW, Bondo for auto body work is a terrible choice, there are activated fillers with the sanding characteristics of construction materials that are far more suitable for working ABS case parts these days.
@ beachycove: I agree with you, he has a very good point . . . up to a point . . . he has gone far beyond that point . . .
We've been in touch in PM and in his thread, which was locked because he pushed it too far even there. I tried to leave it unlocked to preserve his bully pulpit, but it didn't work out that way. He can hound me all he wants in my threads, so long as he puts a friendly face on it, I've got a thick skin. However he's agreed to stop beating his drum in other hackers threads, that was the deal.
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The good natured kidding of, and about, O1M that has been taking place is beginning to feel a little less good natured, keep it civil gang.
Extremism from either side of this issue will not be tolerated.
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I don't condone bondo for this either, I just know case modders have been using it somewhat often over at modders-inc.com.
I have used a two part "mighty putty" clone made by loctite on my mac book, and it dries white. It isn't factory perfect but its a pretty good texture afterwards.
I think it's a form of epoxy.
I have used a two part "mighty putty" clone made by loctite on my mac book, and it dries white. It isn't factory perfect but its a pretty good texture afterwards.
I think it's a form of epoxy.