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Steve Job's Personal Apple IIe
You tried to sell the IIe on eBay for $45,000 a while back... or did you mean just the paperwork?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150822390887
Ha! I knew it, I knew it, I knew it. I knew I saw this very model on eBay a few months ago. $45 grand? That's not exactly keeping it on the down-low considering how you got it. I'd wait a good 10 years before I asked for that kind of money.
Well , how much is something like this worth 
Obviously the man can sell… I mean that last Portable he sold, brought 1100 + shipping !
that is a beastly amount of money for a portable.
Maybe they thought your price was too low for something that is as authentic as what you have there?
Maybe you should try for 100 grand
Obviously the man can sell… I mean that last Portable he sold, brought 1100 + shipping !
that is a beastly amount of money for a portable.
Maybe they thought your price was too low for something that is as authentic as what you have there?
Maybe you should try for 100 grand
I can't say if this instance was legal or not. However, for trash that is on the curb it is generally fair game. Your state, county, city, etc... may have additional laws that come into play, but I'm fairly certain federal law allows for it...
Has anyone been successfully prosecuted for theft of garbage ever? Actually asking, not trying to socratically prove a point.
That was just supposed to be for the paperwork Jobs vs. Apple document which is also very unique. I wasn't really trying to sell anything, more get a general understanding of the market demand.
Sorta, if you find a Babe Ruth autographed baseball in an attic or garbage (lets not continue the legality argument) just because you found it for free doesn't mean you list or sell it for 5 bucks. Unfortunately, Steve is gone and he will never type on another computer. This one has his DNA on/in it and not many people can tout that. In 10 years I would add a 0 to that 45k. There's an iPod with a SJ signature on it for 10k right now... which is just an arbitrary signature let alone on a piece of something he owned with all the other documents to him.
Well, like I said, best to get a certificate of authenticity. A lot of fake Steve Jobs stuff is going to start showing up.
That is NOT what ebay is designed for. I do believe it is also a bannable offense to list items impossibly high just to see what people will offer for it. It's also a very inaccurate way to see what the market would be for the computer.
Anyways, I was not previously discussing the legality of picking stuff out of the trash. I'm sure we've all done it.
What I was trying to say is that selling Steve's personal documents and possibly old electronic bank statements is selling personal information in the eyes of ebay and they'll suspend your account if they catch you.Ok, well, I'm no saint so if someone had placed a bid for 45k I would have at least toyed with the idea. :-x
how about this guy selling blatant illegal apple software...
it even shows how much piracy he has committed # of sold.
Macintosh 128K 512k System 1, 2, 3 Disks Write Paint Chess, Apple Boot 1984 Plus
http://www.ebay.com/itm/330857494204?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Classic Macintosh Operating System 7.1 on 3.5" 1.44 HD disks, vintage Apple OS
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Classic-Macintosh-Operating-System-7-1-on-3-5-1-44-HD-disks-vintage-Apple-OS-/230891954859?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item35c23ba2ab
etc:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Classic-Macintosh-Operating-System-6-0-8-on-3-5-800k-floppy-disks-vintage-OS-/230951568208?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item35c5c94350
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Classic-Macintosh-System-7-5-3-on-3-5-floppy-disks-7-5-5-vintage-OS-Worldwide-/230861775380?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item35c06f2214
He is makin some good coin of the hard work of Apples intellectual property.
just add up the numbers here...
More than 10 available / 20 sold
More than 10 available / 53 sold
More than 10 available / 52 sold
More than 10 available / 30 sold
it even shows how much piracy he has committed # of sold.
Macintosh 128K 512k System 1, 2, 3 Disks Write Paint Chess, Apple Boot 1984 Plus
http://www.ebay.com/itm/330857494204?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Classic Macintosh Operating System 7.1 on 3.5" 1.44 HD disks, vintage Apple OS
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Classic-Macintosh-Operating-System-7-1-on-3-5-1-44-HD-disks-vintage-Apple-OS-/230891954859?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item35c23ba2ab
etc:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Classic-Macintosh-Operating-System-6-0-8-on-3-5-800k-floppy-disks-vintage-OS-/230951568208?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item35c5c94350
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Classic-Macintosh-System-7-5-3-on-3-5-floppy-disks-7-5-5-vintage-OS-Worldwide-/230861775380?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item35c06f2214
He is makin some good coin of the hard work of Apples intellectual property.
just add up the numbers here...
More than 10 available / 20 sold
More than 10 available / 53 sold
More than 10 available / 52 sold
More than 10 available / 30 sold
Im pretty sure apple distributes the old software freely. You can download and copy from the website up to 7.5 I thought pretty sure it may be 7.1. I think he even mentions it, or used to.
From Apple's site you can get up to 7.0.1.
7.1 is not freely available.
7.5.3 and 7.5.5 are distributed via Apple's website.
7.6.0 and 7.6.1(full) are not. Though the bare 7.6.1 updater for use on 7.6.0 is distributed by apple IIRC because it is just an update.
7.1 is not freely available.
7.5.3 and 7.5.5 are distributed via Apple's website.
7.6.0 and 7.6.1(full) are not. Though the bare 7.6.1 updater for use on 7.6.0 is distributed by apple IIRC because it is just an update.
I was just pointing out what he was selling on eBay was the freely downloadable copies, and I am sure since he has been doing it for years on EBay that if it was an issue they would have done something about it by now.
I believe this thread is getting a little bash happy is all. My point is let's enjoy the fact he is sharing what he has. It's cool because of where he got it and the guy on eBay is helping keep older macs going by reaching a large group. As we all know floppies done correctly take a lot of time to copy and test to make sure they are stable and will read and right. What he is doing used to take a day when downloading off dial up onto a hard drive then copying to disk even for updates. It why we all loved cd's with the updates on them.
Rather than the huge legality of what is going on there, lets be ok with the fact someone is doing something. I am sure there is no way he is making a killing. When I help people or drive three hours to get macs I'm losing money every time counting hours involved and such.
Enjoy the sharing of the unit (it was trash in a can on the curb legal in that state) and we all wish we had the proff and story to go with it.
I will get off my soap box now as I would rather enjoy the information here then see people get agitated. I hope we all can enjoy what we see here more than be opinionated.
As Bill and Ted said "Be excellent to each other".
I believe this thread is getting a little bash happy is all. My point is let's enjoy the fact he is sharing what he has. It's cool because of where he got it and the guy on eBay is helping keep older macs going by reaching a large group. As we all know floppies done correctly take a lot of time to copy and test to make sure they are stable and will read and right. What he is doing used to take a day when downloading off dial up onto a hard drive then copying to disk even for updates. It why we all loved cd's with the updates on them.
Rather than the huge legality of what is going on there, lets be ok with the fact someone is doing something. I am sure there is no way he is making a killing. When I help people or drive three hours to get macs I'm losing money every time counting hours involved and such.
Enjoy the sharing of the unit (it was trash in a can on the curb legal in that state) and we all wish we had the proff and story to go with it.
I will get off my soap box now as I would rather enjoy the information here then see people get agitated. I hope we all can enjoy what we see here more than be opinionated.
As Bill and Ted said "Be excellent to each other".
Ugh. Gross.
Ugh. Gross.
Well said. If everyone could live by the quote the world would be a much happier place. I just wanted to share with the group since I respect and value all your opinions. I am fairly young and most of these machines are as old as I am. I don't claim to be an expert and use all of your advice as valuable input in my decision making process. Without the aid of you all, this forum, and others like you I would be lost on so many things. This is my way of trying to show people how their advice/input or aid has helped me bring something back or keep it out of a junkyard.
Another way of looking at it is that he/she's not charging for the software, but for his/her time and materials to put it on floppy. Not everyone has the capability to download and copy those disk images to floppy.
However, if I were doing it, I'd use cool rainbow colored floppies and some nifty labels.
Edit: Speaking of which, this is right on the eBay page. So there's no question about it: "All of this software has been released by Apple to the public- I've done the work for you and put it all on floppies!" Looks like people are paying for convenience.
However, if I were doing it, I'd use cool rainbow colored floppies and some nifty labels.
Edit: Speaking of which, this is right on the eBay page. So there's no question about it: "All of this software has been released by Apple to the public- I've done the work for you and put it all on floppies!" Looks like people are paying for convenience.
I say good luck to you on eBay/ wherever — wouldn't be the first time someone in Silicon Valley made money for nothing.
Mind you, I will not be buying it. Even if I did have the necessary boatloads of money, I could never stand Mr. Jobs.
Mind you, I will not be buying it. Even if I did have the necessary boatloads of money, I could never stand Mr. Jobs.
By all means, I agree, we should be excellent to each other.
Maybe I have adopted the mind set of the mod's here, in regards to software and illegal distribution of it.
With disk copy fired up it doesn't take much to make disk. Not much at all…
Speaking of things on ebay, looks like the OP has some macintosh portable competition
This one looks like a beaute + its recapped aswell
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mint-Apple-Macintosh-Portable-M5120-Recapped-Logic-Board-Rebuilt-Battery-MacCase-/251264122267?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item3a80823d9b
Maybe I have adopted the mind set of the mod's here, in regards to software and illegal distribution of it.
With disk copy fired up it doesn't take much to make disk. Not much at all…
Speaking of things on ebay, looks like the OP has some macintosh portable competition
This one looks like a beaute
+ its recapped aswell http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mint-Apple-Macintosh-Portable-M5120-Recapped-Logic-Board-Rebuilt-Battery-MacCase-/251264122267?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item3a80823d9b