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Appletalk between IIc and Classic II
Howdy!
Will soon acquire an Apple //c Plus, and have a Macintosh Classic II running OS 7.5.5. Am able to Appletalk between the Classic II and my Powerbook 3400c, and can get both machines WWW access through LAN (the Classic II through an Asante adaptor).
So... Did a search for this but came up empty: Can you run Appletalk (or something like it) on a //c Plus in order to swap files between it and a classic Macintosh, and if so what's the set up? Thanks!
Will soon acquire an Apple //c Plus, and have a Macintosh Classic II running OS 7.5.5. Am able to Appletalk between the Classic II and my Powerbook 3400c, and can get both machines WWW access through LAN (the Classic II through an Asante adaptor).
So... Did a search for this but came up empty: Can you run Appletalk (or something like it) on a //c Plus in order to swap files between it and a classic Macintosh, and if so what's the set up? Thanks!
Why not just use ADT Pro and skip the Classic Mac altogether?
I tried it on my Apple II and //c and it works great.
I tried it on my Apple II and //c and it works great.
Well, I have a classic Mac, and I don't have ADT Pro.
What would be the costs associated with my getting ADT Pro and associated equipment, vice using what I already have - and what would be the gain to make it worth my while?
What would be the costs associated with my getting ADT Pro and associated equipment, vice using what I already have - and what would be the gain to make it worth my while?
It's not possible to do Appletalk on the IIc+, which is why you're coming up empty. And depending on what other hardware you already have... ADTPro is free as in beer as well as in liberty.
You would need a null modem cable if you don't already have one, and you'd need a USB-serial adapter if you don't already have one.
Uh... you could communicate to the IIc+, whereas now you cannot? ;-)
So it's impossible to communicate between an Apple IIc Plus and a classic Macintosh?
If so, really surprised nobody found a way to make that happen within the past twenty-five years.
Do appreciate the information you provided, but was really hoping to find a way to make the comms between my Classic II and Apple IIc a reality.
If so, really surprised nobody found a way to make that happen within the past twenty-five years.
Do appreciate the information you provided, but was really hoping to find a way to make the comms between my Classic II and Apple IIc a reality.
Nothing is impossible. There is a version of ADT (pre-ADTPro) that runs on the classic mac. You'd need a printer cable (an 8-pin mini-DIN null modem, essentially) for that. If you have that cable, you could also do file-by-file transfers via a telecomms program on both ends - but I suspect that's not really what you want to do, since there's hardly any large-scale filesystems you can hook to a IIc+. You're basically restricted to the 800k floppy.
Have one! I use it for Appletalk between the Classic II and my Powerbook. Will have to see if I can find the ADT for classic Macs.
May do the newer version of ADT later, but really just want to see what all I can do between the Classic II and the Apple Iic. Heck, got the Classic II up on a web browser - not because it was useful, but because I could.
Did you follow the link to my site that I posted up top? It's really easy. You just need a USB/serial adapter. You can get them on eBay for nothing.
Your link spoke to comms between a modern machine and the Apple //c, vice a classic Macintosh running pre OS X. At least that's what I recall seeing, but I'll look again.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/adtpro/files/dos-adt/ADT%202007_2/
Inside the DOS ADT package you will find MacADT.sit.
Thanks. Have it on my Classic II (and PowerBook), so now have to wait for my Apple //c to arrive.
Didn't Apple File Exchange support 3.5" ProDos disks back in the day?
So I may be able to exchange FDDs directly between the machines? If so, assuming I'd need an extra program to pull that off, right?
Yes, Apple File Exchange (on the Mac) is just such a program.
No IIc or IIc+ can host an external card. The Laser 128, a IIc compatible, could... but that's a horse of another color.
Or the IIe with an Apple II Workstation Card - which, unfortunately, will not help on a IIc either...
Thanks for the heads-up, folks. This IIc is going to be both a challenge and fun. Short story time:
When I was mowing lawns in my junior year of HS, one of my customers had a //c. I gushed over it, and so he made me a deal: If I cut his lawns enough times, I'd get the //c instead of the usual payment. After gladly accepting, really looked forward to getting that machine. Alas, I'd signed up for the Army Reserve and had to ship off to Basic Training before I could close the deal, and the fellow just paid me what he owed.
So, here I am - retired from the Army with time and some money (though less than I'd hoped) on my hands - so getting this machine will be a long wish fulfilled.
When I was mowing lawns in my junior year of HS, one of my customers had a //c. I gushed over it, and so he made me a deal: If I cut his lawns enough times, I'd get the //c instead of the usual payment. After gladly accepting, really looked forward to getting that machine. Alas, I'd signed up for the Army Reserve and had to ship off to Basic Training before I could close the deal, and the fellow just paid me what he owed.
So, here I am - retired from the Army with time and some money (though less than I'd hoped) on my hands - so getting this machine will be a long wish fulfilled.
Special thanks to david!
Got this bird up and running:
Lots of fun ahead!
Got this bird up and running:
Lots of fun ahead!
Glad to hear that you have the //c up and running and are able to enjoy using it. Welcome back to the wonderful world of the Apple II.
Thanks! Just found one fault I recently uncovered: The "X" key doesn't function. That will mess with my ability to program in BASIC. Any suggestions on what to do?
is that a rum&coke you got there in the picture ?
It's a glass of red wine - supposedly good for my heart.
good, you should take care of your heart.
As do i.
As do i.
The usual remedy for key non-functionality is to bash on it - a lot. If the problem is poor contact within the key switch itself, that is the only non-intrusive solution. If a lot of repeated action does not clear the problem up, then it's time for some surgery.
lol
The ole "bash it" method worked - I've got the X key back. Who knew? The machine is in excellent condition for a computer a quarter century old.
The ole "bash it" method worked - I've got the X key back. Who knew? The machine is in excellent condition for a computer a quarter century old.