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Clipper HD
sure you can,
we just need to make a proper diagram that tells you EXACTLY what wires to ground... and what wires you solder to the SCSI chip.
then you can just have one internally.
well, also need to type out and say what exact parts you need to change in your PLUS PSU in order to have enough power for a HD.
once we have that exact info documented anyone who has a plus can install a hard drive internally.
But right now all we have is some random pictures of people that have already modified it... or bought it already modified,
nobody has stepped up and said, this is what you exactly have to do, step by step in detail.
I am close to doing this my self... but i would rather someone who has already successfully done this save me a boat load of time and frustration.
this clipper thing is honkey and kind of stupid anyways.
i mean you still need to get power for the hd... that off the bat makes it not worth it for me.
Trust me... i have a 100m zip inside of my 512ke /with scsi mac snap, and that booting up on its own w/o a floppy, really is delightful. I would assume i'd feel the same delight with a plus /with 4mb ram. and a 500mb hd... or 73gb 2.5" 10k rpm scsi drive!!!!!!
i already know they work externally, thanks to marky! so i know it will work internally! as long as i can supply it with the right amount of power.
we just need to make a proper diagram that tells you EXACTLY what wires to ground... and what wires you solder to the SCSI chip.
then you can just have one internally.
well, also need to type out and say what exact parts you need to change in your PLUS PSU in order to have enough power for a HD.
once we have that exact info documented anyone who has a plus can install a hard drive internally.
But right now all we have is some random pictures of people that have already modified it... or bought it already modified,
nobody has stepped up and said, this is what you exactly have to do, step by step in detail.
I am close to doing this my self... but i would rather someone who has already successfully done this save me a boat load of time and frustration.
this clipper thing is honkey and kind of stupid anyways.
i mean you still need to get power for the hd... that off the bat makes it not worth it for me.
Trust me... i have a 100m zip inside of my 512ke /with scsi mac snap, and that booting up on its own w/o a floppy, really is delightful. I would assume i'd feel the same delight with a plus /with 4mb ram. and a 500mb hd... or 73gb 2.5" 10k rpm scsi drive!!!!!!
i already know they work externally, thanks to marky! so i know it will work internally! as long as i can supply it with the right amount of power.
Internally, it ought to be easy enough to just run AC off the power switch contacts on the A/B to an auxiliary PSU inside the Plus rather than putting more load on the A/B. The main problem I see would be strain on the cooling budget. The lump-on-a-rope wouldn't add much, but the HDD would definitely raise temps inside the box, especially those little server drives.
Externally, you could run the power line from the lump out the back to the Clipper. It would be ugly, but less so than having the wire coming from an outlet. Then again, you'd need a power cord and a minimal cable monster for the usual ZFP HDD approach. Dunno, it's a matter of taste, but at least the Clipper keeps the Plus in the near vicinity of the wall in comparison to a SCSI cable.
Externally, you could run the power line from the lump out the back to the Clipper. It would be ugly, but less so than having the wire coming from an outlet. Then again, you'd need a power cord and a minimal cable monster for the usual ZFP HDD approach. Dunno, it's a matter of taste, but at least the Clipper keeps the Plus in the near vicinity of the wall in comparison to a SCSI cable.
yeah this is what i did with the 512ke
yeah that was pretty much why i stuck with the internal Zip 100,(in the 512ke) they don't hardly make any heat.
You need to figure a way to hack a Zip drive into a Clipper! The disk would point up like a toaster!
Zip Drives in everything!
Zip Drives in everything!
Nah, Zip AND HDD in a Bacster clone, have the Zip pop out the right side. }
i like how i did it with the se
Th- That's......BRILLIANT! :O
I've pondered a purchase of that drive in the past. But I've remained happen with my zero footprint Apple HD20SC case that sits beneath, which has a fast 4.5GB drive mechanism in it.
What would really light my fire would be a PDS card SSD. That would eliminate the SE/30's SCSI bottleneck and be the fastest possible drive solution, loads faster than any flash drive or SSD attached to the SCSI bus.
What would really light my fire would be a PDS card SSD. That would eliminate the SE/30's SCSI bottleneck and be the fastest possible drive solution, loads faster than any flash drive or SSD attached to the SCSI bus.
The zip100 SCSI drives are kinda hard to find, and expensive if they are found. I find jaz roughly the same price, and sometimes abit cheaper alot of the time, its larger in size, and its mostly if not all SCSI. Of course theres the reliability factor, but I owned an external with 3 disks for several years and back when they were in active use I really didn't have any issues with it. maybe 1 bad sector crept up.
Still didn't work with the new power adapter. I'm returning it for a refund.
I think she is selling a box of doa stock from the early 90s
I know I got a mac plus with a killy clipped accelerator I need to figure out what to do with some day.
The thing is, we are limited by the current rating of the transformer. If you drive it too hard, itll saturate and become problematic or fry it alltogether.
The starting point is upgrading the chopper transistor, and modifying the feedback network to allow for slightly more current draw. This will allow the transformer to produce more output current. At the cost of driving the transformer harder. This can cause saturation of the core, or all kinds of unwanted things. I really dont think it will be that bad. but if we want to draw a couple of amps extra we could be in for a surprise, transformer could overheat and fail.
The thing is, we are limited by the current rating of the transformer. If you drive it too hard, itll saturate and become problematic or fry it alltogether.
The starting point is upgrading the chopper transistor, and modifying the feedback network to allow for slightly more current draw. This will allow the transformer to produce more output current. At the cost of driving the transformer harder. This can cause saturation of the core, or all kinds of unwanted things. I really dont think it will be that bad. but if we want to draw a couple of amps extra we could be in for a surprise, transformer could overheat and fail.
I'm going to keep looking for a Clipper type enclosure for my Plus. There has to be some out there that aren't crap.
There are newer black ones I saw on eBay that say they use 2.5 drive and have power supplies. Looks exactly like the clipper but black.
I thought they were PBGray?
its been quite a while, i sent it back… she is saying that she didn't get it.
man i hope she's not running a scam.
man i hope she's not running a scam.
I returned mine and she said she got it and refunded my purchase.
Do you have a tracking number?
Do you have a tracking number?
nope, i sent it USPS First Class at the post office
do me a favor. can you report the ad… She is still selling this non working garbage.
I may of been taken… I sent it back and she is saying she didn't get it.
at-least stop others from buying this.
I mean at this point she knows dam well it doesn't work.
I may of been taken… I sent it back and she is saying she didn't get it.
at-least stop others from buying this.
I mean at this point she knows dam well it doesn't work.
Yeah, I mean, if it doesn't work with Apple 2.5" SCSI drives, nor the Adtron, I cant imagine it will work with anything.
well if you have a tracking number to prove you sent it back, file a paypal claim, save all emails and send them to paypal. theyll refund it and lock her account up.
I have no tracking number. It was sent back First Class.
I opened a resolution and it doesn't have an option for me to select no tracking number.
OH well.
I opened a resolution and it doesn't have an option for me to select no tracking number.
OH well.
Huh. I ordered some stuff from that seller a while back which appears not to have even arrived at my friendly US assistant's address.
Zipper?
Bought a good few things from that seller and found her very reasonable / professional. Fast shipping and nice contact too.
Sorry to hear you're having problems.
Sorry to hear you're having problems.
I just don't see why she is selling something that is proven crap. maybe her other stuff is great.
The case itself is just an adapter. The AC Adapters are likely faulty. The cheap Chinese switching power supply likely couldn't handle the surge load from an old hard drive like a good old fashioned linear wall wart brick could anyway.
Yeah, I figured the fault was probably in the power supply as well.
Case Closed: Issue resolved
You don't need to do anything else.
eBay Customer Support has reviewed and closed the case. We are unable to refund you for your item. Oct 31, 2013 at 12:22 AM
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You returned the item without authorization from the seller or eBay and did not provide tracking.
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You have escalated the case to eBay Customer Support. Oct 30, 2013 at 3:50 PM
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The seller has agreed to issue a full refund of $37.29 when you return the item. Oct 23, 2013 at 4:09 PM
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eBay Customer Support has opened a case for you.The seller has until Oct 29, 2013 to respond. Oct 23, 2013 at 1:06 PM
Wow looks like I got totally taken.
Wonderful.
You don't need to do anything else.
eBay Customer Support has reviewed and closed the case. We are unable to refund you for your item. Oct 31, 2013 at 12:22 AM
eBay Customer Support comments:
You returned the item without authorization from the seller or eBay and did not provide tracking.
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You have escalated the case to eBay Customer Support. Oct 30, 2013 at 3:50 PM
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The seller has agreed to issue a full refund of $37.29 when you return the item. Oct 23, 2013 at 4:09 PM
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eBay Customer Support has opened a case for you.The seller has until Oct 29, 2013 to respond. Oct 23, 2013 at 1:06 PM
Wow looks like I got totally taken.
Wonderful.
sorry to see that, Uni. 
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Its my own fault. I don't know why i didn't spend the extra 80 cents and get a tracking number.
or just used paypal and printed a label.
I used the Postal Machine.
fact of the mater she sold us non working items for not cheap ether.
you and me both.
and is still selling them to unsuspecting persons.
that urks me the most.
or just used paypal and printed a label.
I used the Postal Machine.
fact of the mater she sold us non working items for not cheap ether.
you and me both.
and is still selling them to unsuspecting persons.
that urks me the most.