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My SE Restoration(Pic Heavy)
Wow
I'm hoping it will work too, fantastic work so far.
I'm surprised how little the case is yellowed, while the apple badge has quite severe discoloration.
It cleaned up amazingly well, I hope you will get it working without too much hassle :O
Keep us updated!
It cleaned up amazingly well, I hope you will get it working without too much hassle :O
Keep us updated!
So despite my best attempts, I cannot find any obvious faults with the PSU. I can't see any visual signs of leakage though I probably washed those away. Now the plan is to replace it, so if you've got one that works and want to sell it let me know.
a) have you tried looking at the fuse?
B) your location?
B) your location?
Fuse is fine, unless there is more than one to check. I'm in Denver.
one of the se's i jsut got, had a miniscribe HD, it wouldnt spin up so i had to open the cover and rotate the spindle back and forth it was a little gooy,
anyways that was the ticket the miniscribe hd now works
a whole 18.7 megs !! kinda has a cool seek noise about it
anyways that was the ticket the miniscribe hd now works
a whole 18.7 megs !! kinda has a cool seek noise about it
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This is my first post. All I can say is I'm amazed. You guys here really know your stuff. I have electronics training from the Air Force but not like the stuff you guys do.
I bought a Mac SE,1 MB RAM, 2x 800K way back when they were new. Sold it a long time ago and now getting back into it.
I have a lot of questions of you don't mind.
Within the last three weeks I bought from Craig's List and Ebay two Mac SE's.
Both have 4GB or RAM so they were upgraded from 1MB.
Both have single 800K floppies.
One has an internal Apple 50 MB HD refurbished by a guy in New Jersey named Herb Johnson, anyone know him? Found him on the web. Anyone know anyone else who does work on SE's?
I have coming from him a 1.44 floppy and a friend is selling me his board with the three 1.44 SuperDrive chips that I will remove and replace on my board, I'd use his but his battery is dead.
The other SE has an internal HD @ 30 MB.
Screens look good but both are very slightly tilted to the left but I don't want to mess with the yoke.
One also came with an 80MB external non-Apple HD which works great.
Been spending a lot of time de-yellowing an ImageWriter II, two keyboards, and mice, have pics if anyone's interested. Found many different processes but this one guy's is easiest and very fast.
Questions:
1. Both these boards have soldered batteries but one looks like it may have been replaced because on the back side the soldered joints look newer. One is 1987 and the other 1988. Will I need to replace them? They still keep time. It doesn't look too difficult, just desolder and reinstall right? Where would I get batteries?
2. I see a lot about caps, I guess they're on the other board right? The one next to the tube? Will I need to replace them?
3. On both tubes I saw what looked like black grease which cleaned up, have pics of that too. What is that stuff and how did it get there? Was right on the rubber anode cover and on the glass.
4. Any recommendations?
All I want to use one for is Comic Strip Factory, Word 5.1a, and HyperCard 1.1 as I'm running 6.0.8 and have no desire to go to SSW 7.xx.
Thanks.
Paul in Atlanta.
I bought a Mac SE,1 MB RAM, 2x 800K way back when they were new. Sold it a long time ago and now getting back into it.
I have a lot of questions of you don't mind.
Within the last three weeks I bought from Craig's List and Ebay two Mac SE's.
Both have 4GB or RAM so they were upgraded from 1MB.
Both have single 800K floppies.
One has an internal Apple 50 MB HD refurbished by a guy in New Jersey named Herb Johnson, anyone know him? Found him on the web. Anyone know anyone else who does work on SE's?
I have coming from him a 1.44 floppy and a friend is selling me his board with the three 1.44 SuperDrive chips that I will remove and replace on my board, I'd use his but his battery is dead.
The other SE has an internal HD @ 30 MB.
Screens look good but both are very slightly tilted to the left but I don't want to mess with the yoke.
One also came with an 80MB external non-Apple HD which works great.
Been spending a lot of time de-yellowing an ImageWriter II, two keyboards, and mice, have pics if anyone's interested. Found many different processes but this one guy's is easiest and very fast.
Questions:
1. Both these boards have soldered batteries but one looks like it may have been replaced because on the back side the soldered joints look newer. One is 1987 and the other 1988. Will I need to replace them? They still keep time. It doesn't look too difficult, just desolder and reinstall right? Where would I get batteries?
2. I see a lot about caps, I guess they're on the other board right? The one next to the tube? Will I need to replace them?
3. On both tubes I saw what looked like black grease which cleaned up, have pics of that too. What is that stuff and how did it get there? Was right on the rubber anode cover and on the glass.
4. Any recommendations?
All I want to use one for is Comic Strip Factory, Word 5.1a, and HyperCard 1.1 as I'm running 6.0.8 and have no desire to go to SSW 7.xx.
Thanks.
Paul in Atlanta.
Hey there Paul!
Welcome to the club !
I can at least answer some of your questions, but also take solutions of others into consideration as there are so many people here with way more experience than myself.
1.
The batteries are a bit of a difficulty, there are a few options with these:
*The older soldered ones tend to keep charge for a very long time, and are not really prone to leaking/exploding, so you can just leave them in.
*The safer option however is to just remove de-solder them, or clip the leads and just remove them.
*Third option would be soldering a battery holder to the board so it can be easily swapped out.
(I just clipped mine to be sure, and I myself don't mind setting the clock when it's been unplugged.)
2.
Caps!caps!caps!
The caps most talked about here are the logic board caps. The SE models have the older style axial caps that do not tend to leak or give much trouble.
Much worse are the SMT-style aluminium can capacitors on the newer board.
I would NOT recap your style of caps, I WOULD however cap the newer style caps in newer Macintoshes.
The caps on the analog board may also need recapping in the near future, however if you have no serious (video-)trouble and see no serious leakage, I would leave them alone for now.
The rest, I can not really help you with.
Good luck!
Welcome to the club
!I can at least answer some of your questions, but also take solutions of others into consideration as there are so many people here with way more experience than myself.
1.
The batteries are a bit of a difficulty, there are a few options with these:
*The older soldered ones tend to keep charge for a very long time, and are not really prone to leaking/exploding, so you can just leave them in.
*The safer option however is to just remove de-solder them, or clip the leads and just remove them.
*Third option would be soldering a battery holder to the board so it can be easily swapped out.
(I just clipped mine to be sure, and I myself don't mind setting the clock when it's been unplugged.)
2.
Caps!caps!caps!
The caps most talked about here are the logic board caps. The SE models have the older style axial caps that do not tend to leak or give much trouble.
Much worse are the SMT-style aluminium can capacitors on the newer board.
I would NOT recap your style of caps, I WOULD however cap the newer style caps in newer Macintoshes.
The caps on the analog board may also need recapping in the near future, however if you have no serious (video-)trouble and see no serious leakage, I would leave them alone for now.
The rest, I can not really help you with.
Good luck!
Hi Ike, thank you for the quick reply to my questions.
This is THE place to be it looks like.
This is good news to me. I appreciate it.
There is a guy here named 24bit who told me about this site. Glad I could finally join today.
This is THE place to be it looks like.
This is good news to me. I appreciate it.
There is a guy here named 24bit who told me about this site. Glad I could finally join today.
Paul,
I'd just get a new battery for your friend's board and use it. If it was originally a SuperDrive/FDHD board, it will likely have the battery holder, so you can use a generic Mac PRAM battery in it. On the 800k boards, there is someone on eBay selling a triple AA battery pack with leads for the Apple IIgs computers, which will work fine when/if the old Varta batteries do finally kick the bucket on an early SE or II/early IIx.
-J
I'd just get a new battery for your friend's board and use it. If it was originally a SuperDrive/FDHD board, it will likely have the battery holder, so you can use a generic Mac PRAM battery in it. On the 800k boards, there is someone on eBay selling a triple AA battery pack with leads for the Apple IIgs computers, which will work fine when/if the old Varta batteries do finally kick the bucket on an early SE or II/early IIx.
-J
Hi Volvo,
I think he said his was the same soldered battery and it was cut off.
Will have to wait till I see it.
Besides, I have an IC extractor coming from Ebay and it's not too difficult to remove the ROM chips right? I've done it many times in the past using a screwdriver (yikes!) but it worked.
How about this for a story.
Way back in the 80's a friend had a Mac 512 and he wanted me to upgrade his RAM.
So I got a Computer Shopper magazine, opened his cade, got the part numbers of his RAM chips and ordered some more.
Then using a piece of thin cardboard I placed each chip on top of the originals and soldered each and every leg. Took me all day but when I removed the cardboard for some cooling it worked and he never had a problem.
I wonder where that Mac is today?
I think he said his was the same soldered battery and it was cut off.
Will have to wait till I see it.
Besides, I have an IC extractor coming from Ebay and it's not too difficult to remove the ROM chips right? I've done it many times in the past using a screwdriver (yikes!) but it worked.
How about this for a story.
Way back in the 80's a friend had a Mac 512 and he wanted me to upgrade his RAM.
So I got a Computer Shopper magazine, opened his cade, got the part numbers of his RAM chips and ordered some more.
Then using a piece of thin cardboard I placed each chip on top of the originals and soldered each and every leg. Took me all day but when I removed the cardboard for some cooling it worked and he never had a problem.
I wonder where that Mac is today?
I admit it, I've had to do the small Wiha screwdriver trick... Slide it between the chip and the socket in the middle, then lift up. Ah, so his board may be a very early SE FDHD board, or an upgraded one...
-John
-John
Not sure on either, I'll have to call him.
Yeah, with the screwdriver the pucker factor can get kind of high. I'd hate to break one of these are they seem as rare as hen's teeth.
But with a real IC extractor I don't think I'll have any problems.
Gotta pull six and install three as his board will be a spare for both SE's I have.
Got an internal 1.44 floppy on order so I'll be all set.
This SE will have gone from a 1MB RAM, 2 800K floppy system to a 4 MB RAM, one 50 MB Apple internal HD with cover plate, and a HD floppy. I'm happy with that.
I wish someone would get back to my original post about some of the other questions I have.
There seem to be a LOT of technical guys on this forum. I am REALLY glad I found it.
Where is this forum located? Is it Australian? Just curious.
Yeah, with the screwdriver the pucker factor can get kind of high. I'd hate to break one of these are they seem as rare as hen's teeth.
But with a real IC extractor I don't think I'll have any problems.
Gotta pull six and install three as his board will be a spare for both SE's I have.
Got an internal 1.44 floppy on order so I'll be all set.
This SE will have gone from a 1MB RAM, 2 800K floppy system to a 4 MB RAM, one 50 MB Apple internal HD with cover plate, and a HD floppy. I'm happy with that.
I wish someone would get back to my original post about some of the other questions I have.
There seem to be a LOT of technical guys on this forum. I am REALLY glad I found it.
Where is this forum located? Is it Australian? Just curious.
The admin is based in Arizona. It's just a global community. I and a few other members are based in the Seattle area. Then there are a few members in California, Oregon, Iowa, Maine, New Jersey, Michigan, Florida, etc... Plus a few members in Europe, Asia, Australia...
-J
-J
That's cool. Looks like there's a lot of old Mac fans out there. There's something about the Mac SE, they were from a simpler time I think. I remember my original and what I paid for it. I remember being a sysop in Idaho. That was fun. I miss the days of BBS's. I have a third party modem and there is even some modem software on the SE so I was thinking about seeing if I cna still log in to a BBS. I know there's still some out there. I used to know all those command codes. Those were the days!