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I agree. With several New World Macs running OS 10.2.x to 10.4.x, I haven't pushed any of my seriously upgraded (G3) Old World beige Macs into OS X. Not even my two 'original' Beige G3s (DT and MT). The OW beiges include several 7300s, a 9600, a 9500 and a PowerTower Pro (under construction).
OS 9 is a damned good OS that has never given me bloat, sloth or fall-over problems even in memory-guzzling soundwave editing.
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OS 9 is a damned good OS that has never given me bloat, sloth or fall-over problems even in memory-guzzling soundwave editing.
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If you're going to be dealing with inexperienced users or young kids, go with 8.6. It's the last version that can run At Ease.
Oh dear, At Ease! I think kids should be allowed to muck around using the real thing. Any kid with a brain will work it out in no time - it's easy to them; same as how kids can easily pick up multiple languages when they're young.
P.S. Equill, re: bloat - 9.2.2 seems to run OK once it starts but after starting up my 190cs running 7.5 yesterday in about 30 seconds, I notice how much crap this thing must be loading at startup - it takes nearly two minutes!
P.S. Equill, re: bloat - 9.2.2 seems to run OK once it starts but after starting up my 190cs running 7.5 yesterday in about 30 seconds, I notice how much crap this thing must be loading at startup - it takes nearly two minutes!
I agree about At Ease. The only reason I brought it up is because I was working on an iMac yesterday with 8.6, At Ease with a password that none of us knew (school surplus machine), and a broken CD-ROM drive!
And about 9.2.2 bloat--ever notice how many extensions come pre-loaded on an OS 9 install? Add in a few drivers, etc and you have a parade that fills up the width of the screen and then some.
And about 9.2.2 bloat--ever notice how many extensions come pre-loaded on an OS 9 install? Add in a few drivers, etc and you have a parade that fills up the width of the screen and then some.
Yeah it's ridiculous but once you start trying to cut some out, things begin to break. It's a domino effect on os9!
For a machine running classic Mac OS and ONLY classic Mac OS, iCab is your only real choice since it is the only browser for classic that is still being actively developed. It may not be as good as OS X browsers, but at least there is still hope for future improvement. All other browsers that run under classic are dead.I have 160 megs so plenty of ram for os 9. It runs very well for everything except web browsing, for which it pretty much stinks. iCab is very lousy; Netscape is slightly faster and nicer looking. Being used to OS X and a dual core, I really do notice its substandard multitasking abilities. Haven’t tried Wamcom just yet. I rather wish I’d just paid a little extra for a Pismo or something.
Thanque you for the CD numbers, equill. I’ve filed them alongside my collection of Calvin Klein boxer shorts reference codes and Roger Whittaker sheet music catalogue numbers. [8D]
Speaking of international systems and how my Wallstreet originally came with the British 8.6… I also noticed yesterday that it has a pound symbol instead of a hash - as God intended! So maybe my wallstreet is a closet pom? If I ever hear it complain about the weather then my suspicion is confirmed.
iCab is lousy. Netscape for os9 is way better. iCab hasn't been updated in a few years anyway so I doubt it's still being developed.
iCab 3.03 was released in August 2006 and is available for Mac OS 8.5-9.22 as well as OS X.iCab is lousy. Netscape for os9 is way better. iCab hasn't been updated in a few years anyway so I doubt it's still being developed.
Netscape 7.02 for Mac OS 9 was released in February 2003. A lot has changed in those 3.5 years.
I use IE 5 on OS 9. I can't stand Netscape or iCab.
Ditto. iCab is really slow on my 6500 running 9.1. MSIE 5 works fine, and renders most pages without major mistakes.I use IE 5 on OS 9. I can't stand Netscape or iCab.
The OS9 version of iCab is older than that. It's crap. Netscape works fine. As well as I'd expect it to anyway.
Btw IE5 came with my os9 install disc - so that makes it from 2001 or earlier. I couldn't even log in to this wireless point using that because its cookies system was outdated or something. And it's definitely not as speedy as Netscape. Well, not on this machine. [8D]
The OS9 version was released when I said it was. The 2.9.9 version that runs on older OS's and on 68k machines was released earlier. It can't do cascading style sheets properly which is why it struggles with so many web pages.The OS9 version of iCab is older than that. It's crap. Netscape works fine. As well as I'd expect it to anyway.
Well there ya go. I am wrong.
OS 9 doesn't need At Ease, it has Multiple Users, and the Panels interface.If you're going to be dealing with inexperienced users or young kids, go with 8.6. It's the last version that can run At Ease.
To be fair to OS 9, if not to Apple, some of the extra 'bloat' with each increment of System/OS number is occasioned by the attempt at backward (hardware) compatibilty. As one tiny example, how many Ethernet extensions does one need: NuBus, PCI, LC PDS, &c., &c? TokenRing hangs on in the OSs long after most people (especially those under 50 years of age) have ceased to remember it. Remedy? Kill! Kill! Let Extensions Manager be your friend. Department of Silly Voices, bite the dust! Personal Web Sharing, get thee hence! And so on. It's possible to get OS 9 lean enough that the real advances can begin to shine through. Judicious excision should not result in OS instability.Yeah it's ridiculous but once you start trying to cut some out, things begin to break. It's a domino effect on os9!
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I tried that but you'd be surprised what an effect it has. Before I got wifi up and running, I trashed all the internet extensions, and so Quicktime wouldn't work!
A whole lot of other programmes went on strike as well due to various missing libraries that I was sure I didn't need.
Then when I eventually reinstalled the internet gear, something else must have still been missing that stopped TCP/IP from recognising the connection.
Even with all the superflous gear missing, it only shaved maybe 15 seconds off the boot time.
A whole lot of other programmes went on strike as well due to various missing libraries that I was sure I didn't need.
Then when I eventually reinstalled the internet gear, something else must have still been missing that stopped TCP/IP from recognising the connection.
Even with all the superflous gear missing, it only shaved maybe 15 seconds off the boot time.