Complete Collection of Every Compact Mac?

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If you did not, would you please post the serial numbers at your convenience so they can be dated? In particular the Platinum 512Ke Thanks ...

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Hi all,

The site is back up now (I was interstate for a while). The S/N of the Platinum 512Ke is F7353V7M0001ED

So where does that put it in the time line?

Regards,

Macdownunder

I'd like to see the that comprehensive list of compact Macs though I'm sure it will send me off on another old Mac scavenger hunt. Here's what I have in Macca:

128k

512k

Plus (beige, platinum)

SE (dual floppy, FDHD, SuperDrive, 800k w/HD)

SE/30

Classic

Classic II

Performa 200

Color Classic

Color Classic II

The S/N of the Platinum 512Ke is F7353V7M0001ED

So where does that put it in the time line?

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It should be at the beginning of September, 1987.

Cheers

Rick

Goodness, macdownunder, I never knew what a fine collection you had. If only mine were so well organised.

What part of town are you in?

ok, lets count;
1. Macintosh

2. Macintosh 128k

3. Macintosh 512k

4. Macintosh 512ke

5. Macintosh 512ke (Platinum)

6. Macintosh ED

7. Macintosh Plus

8. Macintosh Plus (Platinum)

9. Macintosh SE 1/20

10. Macintosh SE 800/800

11. Macintosh SE FDHD

12. Macintosh SE/30

13. Macintosh Classic

14. Macintosh Classic II

15. Macintosh Colour Classic

16. Macintosh Colour Classic II

17. Macintosh Performa 200

18. Macintosh Performa 250

19. Macintosh Performa 275

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Macintosh Plus ED ??

Macintosh SE 1/40 ??

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Here's the main variations i've compiled as a complete collection. I really think 'complete collection' is open to interpretation though.

For example - there are three Classic II's I would consider... The only variations being small, visual differences. However, they're still effectively the same 'model' so having just one of these in your collection can make it 'complete.'

I've put the models I'm missing in bold incase anyone would like to offer? :lol:

To start with...

( B) - beige

(P) - platinum

(ED) - Educational or European (whatever your opinion may be).

1. Original "Macintosh" ( B)

2. 128k ( B)

3. 512k ( B)

4. 512k (ED), ( B)

5. 512ke ( B)

6. 512ke (ED), (P)

7. Plus 1MB ( B)

8. Plus 1MB (512k with Apple upgrade kit), ( B)

9. Plus 1MB (P)

10. Plus (ED), (P)

11. Plus (P)

12. SE ('86 model)

13. SE ('86) - dual FDD

14. SE ('88 model)

15. SE FDHD

16. SE 'SuperDrive'

17. SE 1/20

18. SE 1/40

19. SE/30

20. Classic

21. Classic (with side speaker holes)

22. Classic (C Serial number) - (ED)??

23. Classic II

24. Classic II (with side speaker holes)

25. Performa 200

26. Colour Classic

27. Performa 250

28. Colour Classic II

29. Performa 275

The S/N of the Platinum 512Ke is F7353V7M0001ED

So where does that put it in the time line?

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It should be at the beginning of September, 1987.

Cheers

Rick

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Ah yes ... but it also tells us this:

Manufactured in: F => Fremont, California, USA

Year of production: 1987

Week of production: 35

Production number: 3V7 => 4461

Modell ID: M0001ED => Macintosh 512Ke

Your Macintosh 512Ke was the 4461th Mac manufactured during the 35th week of 1987 in Fremont, California, USA.

SInce the 512Ke is popularly indicated as having been discontinued in September 1987, this is one of the last if so. Further it was manufactured in Freemont, which is interesting in that it means the last of the Domestic 512Ke's were Platinum as well as the European & Pacific ones.

But the real question is what category does this fit into? Is t a Mac Plus or is it a 512K?

In addition to the logic board and the bucket i also believe it came with a new keyboard, however the rocker is part of the analogue board my rocker switch is a lighter color than the rest of the computer and is one color. Everything else you said is absolutely true about that kit.

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They are all M0001 models, so I think they become their own category.

They keyboard was optional, at least initially. It is certainly possible Apple tried to sweeten the deal to clear out the last of the kits later on.

After the switch to Platinum, Apple quickly discontinued any beige parts. The final replacement analogue board for all M0001s was Platinum only. There's a thread started by JDW about the analogue board comparisons. I would imagine your board was replaced at some point.

Here's the main variations i've compiled as a complete collection. I really think 'complete collection' is open to interpretation though.

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Not so much interpretation but degrees. You can't argue that a minor difference despite being the exact same machine is not a different model. Whether a particular collection includes or excludes it depends on the parameters. There's the form factor collection, basically one representative of each model. There's the badge collection, which includes every specific badge differentiation within each form factor and then there's the ultimate collection which addresses the minute details of every esoteric variation. In between the badge and the ultimate collection are various degrees of specificity which define the limits of one's collection.

I basically agree with your list on that basis and as surprised as I am that you were able to come up with 29, I am even more surprised that I'm actually going to add a few. In particular the international variations. Stay tuned ...

*512K/800 M0001D (a 512Ke with the extended Plus keyboard)

*All variants of M0001P, WP & AP (European 240V switchable Power supplies)

*"Colour Classic" as well as "Color Classic" variants.

To be clear, when you say "ED (Educational or European)", do you mean they are interchangeable, or to include the badged 512Kes & Pluses with the words Macintosh ED or Macintosh Plus ED stenciled across the front? If the former then the stenciled varieties need to be added as well as the European variants.

... 512Ke is F7353V7M0001ED. So where does that put it in the time line?

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The life of the Plus was 16 Jan 1986 to 15 Oct. 1990, or almost five years.

The life of the 512Ke was 14 Apr 1986 to 1 Sep. 1987. In its shorter life, the 512Ke managed to be Beige Mac Minus to the Beige Mac Plus, and then Platinum Mac Minus alongside the Platinum Mac Plus. Your 512Ke must have come from the dying days of the model's currency (35th week of 1987).

Its serial number includes the information (M0001ED) that it was a member of the first distinct group (M0001) of Mac models, was an 'extended' (E) 512K, or 512Ke, and was made for the education market (D).

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I have a non working SE FDHD and SE Superdrive, a Plus, and a Classic I.

I believe the list goes like this:

-Macintosh 128k (labeled just Macintosh on the back)

-Macintosh 128k (labeled Macintosh 128k on the back)

-Macintosh 512k

-Macintosh 512ke

-Macintosh ED

-Macintosh Plus

-Macintosh Plus ED

-Macintosh SE

-Macintosh SE FDHD

-Macintosh SE Superdrive

-Macintosh SE 1/20

-Macintosh SE 2/40

-Macintosh SE/30

-Macintosh Classic

-Macintosh Classic II

-Macintosh Color Classic

-Macintosh Color Classic II

I think that's a complete list, unless you count a 128k/512k upgraded to plus as an additional model. That's the one I have, so in essence, it is not a "true" Macintosh Plus.

17 macs to collect, not that bad, but some are rarer than others.

good luck everyone.

-digital

I think that's a complete list,

17 macs to collect, not that bad, but some are rarer than others.

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Yours would be the badged list – ie the compacts that have unique badging, but not necessarily all of the model permutations, including colour (which in my book is a biggie). That's where the 29+ comes in. However, you left out the Performa's which are also unique badged compacts, so you can't include the "FDHD" & "Superdrive" and leave out the Performa's ... so your list goes up to at least 20 on first glance.

If you're happy with that collection, it will definitely save you some money LOL. Some of us are more obsessed.

FYI, you have to count the 128K to 512K upgrade as well as the 128/512K/e to Plus upgrade since Apple ordered the 128Ks upgraded to 512K after they were discontinued, and the 512K/es upgraded to Pluses and sold that way after the upgrade kit was discontinued. So that adds 3 official models to the list.

Some of us are more obsessed.

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Indeed we are

By the way, I'm glad to see we agree on a lot of common points about the 'complete' collection as well as the various levels.

According to Low End Mac, SE 1/20 and SE 2/40 were not official designations. Neither were SE/20, SE 1/40 or SE 4/80.

Anyone got an SE marked as such? Just curious!

According to Low End Mac, SE 1/20 and SE 2/40 were not official designations. Neither were SE/20, SE 1/40 or SE 4/80.
Anyone got an SE marked as such? Just curious!

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A simple Google Image search will turn up a number of examples. Almost every Mac site out there has incorrect information. Low End Mac is a never ending source of consternation for me as much of the information propagated there is presented as fact when indeed it is mostly speculation and assumption. I'm not knocking Low End Mac, I really appreciate the site, much of the information there is accurate and it is the godfather site of Macintosh preservation. Unfortunately for Dan Knight, there is so much information accumulated there now that it is impossible for him to correct every piece of mis-information.

As for the SE configurations, here are two clearly branded models:

http://www.nielsbretschneider.com/mac/se/




The others did not produce immediate results, but the fact LEM was so wrong about the 1/20 & 1/40 should make you take the info from LEM with a grain of salt. Also, there is an unfortunate tendency among North Americans to assume if it wasn't sold here it doesn't exist. Many of the unusual model configurations were sold internationally to appeal to the local markets. That's where the 512K/800 comes from.

I think the SE/20 is permutation of the SE 1/20 name, but Apple may have indeed offered the SE/20 in some markets to clearly differentiate the dual floppy from the HD model. Obviously, this would not have happened after they changed their naming conventions with the SE/30. It seems like I have seen the 2/40, but that could also be a permutation of the 1/40 name. The 2 would imply 2MB RAM instead of 1MB. The 4/80 seems a likely candidate to me as it would clearly justify the price difference between a 1/20 & 1/40 as the high end SE.

Thanks Mac128 for the pictures. Now I know I have to search for these as well