Car Thread: SRT4 Vs MiniS vs SVT focus Vs Mazdaspeed VS GTI

Yeah lets make it harder just for the sake of making it harder.




Wearing seatbelts is a excuse for being a weak driver.

Hell take doors off too.

I think Nim is referring to the fact that if someone chose a car solely for the purpose of it being easier to drive in snow (rain isn't a big deal at all IMO) that just means your not very good at driving in snow.

Here in New England we've had nothing but snow this winter, its been challenging with my truck but I am not about to sell it and get some crappy little FWD car just so it makes it easier to drive.

Also you can't have any fun in the snow with a FWD car, I love going into empty parking lots, jacking on the brakes then nailing the gas and spinning like a top

No it doesn't, that means you just want it to be EASIER to drive in the snow. I can drive a RWD in the snow just fine, I drive Cheryl's Mustang 5.0 every week. I prefer to drive a FWD in the snow. Not because I am a crappy driver, but because it's just safer.
Well it's a good thing not all FWDs are crappy.


This explains alot.

Yeha it explains that sometimes I like to enjoy myself.

Once again you prove how much of tool you are.

Run into a tree.

You said you'd rather have a VW beetle (slow, ugly, and girly) over a neon (faster, cheaper, more fun).

- Ca$h

Yeah I'm the tool, I am the one that said if you like FWD cars you can't drive.

Yep, I'd rather have a whole shitload of cars over a Neon.

And Zim, stop putting words into mine and Nimisys' mouth, though thats all you ever do anyways.

If you drive a FWD drive car, that has no bearing, but you said that you like FWD because it is easier to drive in snow, and we both commented on it, stop backstepping and looking like an idiot, oh wait, its to late for that. Tool.

Also Ca$h, I don't even like Beetles anymore, they're not new and cool anymore.

I want a Mazda 6 or Proteg� Turbo

Oh so would I! I would LOVE to have a 911, or one of those new Audis. Just not at my grasp righ now.
Yeah, that's all I ever do. What did I put in your mouth?

Nim said it was just as excuse for a weak driver. You agreed with him.

I said you claimed if you like FWD cars you can't drive. Basically saying the same thing.

I can drive, Very well indeed. I prefer FWD for every day driving. So I just disproved your reasonings.
Now who is backpeddling here? Not me. You are projecting.

Heh, this explains a lot.


You'll have to mod it to beat the SRT

Ugh, jesus Zim, can you ever make a post without quoting (and picking apart line by line) someone else's post?

Neither I nor Nimisys said that driving a FWD car denotes lack of driver skill, but instead saying that you prefer to drive an "easier" FWD car in bad weather does, do you still not get the point here?

And yes, I would pick a car because it was cooler rather than some faster ugly POS ::cough::SRT::cough:: because I am rather happy with my penis size.

Also, doesn't the report show that the SRT barely won over the Proteg� Turbo? So I doubt I'd be watsing money in modding it, which won't be soon since I can not afford anything newer than 1994.

Err, that is the correct way of replying to a post. That way, nothing is in question as to what I am responding to. Why do you have a problem with it? Why does it bother you so much? I really don't see the big deal.

I said I like the FWD better in the rain or snow. It was replied to by Nim with this.

an excuse for a weak driver
Saying I was just saying that because I was a weak driver. You agreed with him. I showed that wasn't true AT ALL. Now who is trying to backpeddle?
You may be able to play these games with other people, but it just doesn't work with me I am afraid.
Oh yes because Neons are penis cars. Give me a break.



I never claimed the SRT WHOOPED it. I just said you'll need to mod one to beat the SRT. Just hope the SRT isn't modded as well.

Ok I told myself that my last reply was, well, my last to you on this matter, but your idiocy knows no bounds.

You say that a Neon is not a penis car, but at every turn you brag about how much faster it is than every other damn thing on the planet is you just add some konis, strut bars, blah blah blah blah, so yeah, if you buy a car because its gonna be faster than other cars you are trying to increase your penis size, end of fu*king story.

Also how am I trying to backpedal? I am saying the same thing that I said 8 posts ago, are you missing chromosomes? You say you like to drive FWD because its easier in bad weather, we say thats an excuse of a weak driver, you whine and complain saying how you drive a 5.0 in the bad weather all the time and that you are a good driver. Ok cool, end of discussion, stop trying to make up sh!t to disagree with people on, its goddamn pathetic...

Don't bother picking apart this post line by line while jacking off and telling yourself how witty and clever you are, because its futile, and this is my last post regarding this matter.

perhaps i am missing something here. can a car left entirely to itself not running, parked, out of the way, etc, be safer than a different car in the same exact situation? for that matter can ANY inanimate object be safer than any other left entirley to it self?

or does it's threat to another object (animate or otherwise) directly connected to its human operator? a parked car will not kill anyone by is presence. the same vehicle innocent by itself can be made quite athreat based soley on its operator.

as such the threat level posed by such an inanimate object is controled by its animate operator. if the operator acts within an unsafe manner, so will the inanimate object.

following this concept then coems the fact that no vehicle by itslef is "safer" than anyother in the same situation. it comes down squarley on the operator. may a FWD vehicle be easier to operate in the snow in a safe manner, than a rwd vehicle in the same conditions? possibly, however that does not make the object any inheritantly safer than the other.

so please don't try to make the argument that one is inheritantly safer than another soley based on the object itself, which can not function with out the contorl and input from an animate opertator.

My idiocy? try your baseless accusations. Name calling is just a self defense mechanism used when someone in a bind, like you are now. And you tell me I put words in your mouth. Not once have I ever said that Neons where faster than every other thing on the planet. As a matter of fact I said the opposite. More baseless accusations. End of story indeed. You have to make up crap to even try to save face with your silly statements.
You said I put words in your mouth, saying you didn't say such a thing. Now you admit to it, and are now trying to twist the arguement into something I am doing wrong. Wont work here. Sorry.
This last chest pounding sillyness must be real embarrassing for you.
If I was you I'd not want to reply again either.

No matter how good of a driver you are, a FWD car will still perform better in the snow and or rain compared to a RWD car. It has nothing to do with lack of knowing how to control or drive your car. I've heard the same silly arguements about power streering, manual vs auto, sticky vs non sticky tires etc. It's silly.

You use what can give you the most advantage for your daily driving practices. No matter what your ability is.

no you said: " Nim it snows and rians a lot here " implying that because of STANDARD weather patterns, one platform is superior. i made my comment saying that a good compentant driver will be able to handle any platform in normal weather (sun, wind, rain, snow, etc) and will not be using it [weather] as a prop for their argument of superiority of a said platform. a driver who can not handle normal weather in any platform and then uses their lack of skill as a method of claiming supeiority is both a weak argument and a weak driver. now you state you can hand;le a 5.0 rwd vehicle in the rain, the obvously you are not so weak of a driver as yo are limited by weather to your ability to operate a motor vehcle of any of those 3 platforms.

not nessicarily. a competant dirver in a rwd vehicle could still outhandle and perform a fwd vehicle in both rain and snow. once again it comes down to driver ability. the level needed to perfrom on par may be higher in one or another, but i am not arguing that.

Right and I STILL perfer FWD because it drives better in the snow and rain. That is my whole point. Cherly being a big Stang fan, used to make fun of my FWD Neon all the time. I let her take it in the back roads of WV one day. She is constantly asking me to let her drive it now. Why is that? FWDs aren't as bad as people are making them out to be.

Right, but why make it harder on yourself, and MAYBE indanger yourself? No matter how good you are, the road can smack you in the face. I've seen it happen with the best of drivers. You do have to be a tad more careful with a RWD.

and you listen to nothing. you find it easier to drive in snow and rain and nothing more. your abilities limit how well either vehicle performs or drives "better". their are people that can handle 500ft-lb vettes in the snow with so much ease you would think they had r-compound tires on a dry track. no matter how you cut it, the performance (or better drive as you call it) is still more dependent on driver ability than not.


yes you do need to have more driving ability, i have never said otherwise. i have only said that you can not use a lack of ability to prove superiority. doing so only shows the lack of ability you really have.

I sure can and I will continue to. And it doesn't show any lack of ability. There is a reason FWD cars handle better in the rain/snow. Deny it, make excuses doesn't matter. What I see here is two people having problems admitting that FWD just MIGHT have some advantages over RWD, no matter the driving ability.


It's really getting silly now.