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China sanctions anti war protesters
China, the world's most populous state, has held its first, officially sanctioned anti-war protest - although the 100 or so students who gathered at Beijing University may represent the smallest protest in any world capital to date.
That's nothing new -- communists have been sponsoring war protests in this country since the 1930s.
If you've ever seen a Chinese-govt. sanctioned "protest" you'd probably feel differently about this. I've been to several here in the US. The one common thing is the government official with the camera, taking pictures of who's there and who isn't and the five or six other govt. officials taking notes on who's being the most patriotic. The citizens who show up do so for the same reasons that Iraqis cheered Saddam Hussein during parades.
If you've ever seen a Chinese-govt. sanctioned "protest" you'd probably feel differently about this. I've been to several here in the US. The one common thing is the government official with the camera, taking pictures of who's there and who isn't and the five or six other govt. officials taking notes on who's being the most patriotic. The citizens who show up do so for the same reasons that Iraqis cheered Saddam Hussein during parades.
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Originally posted by finboy: That's nothing new -- communists have been sponsoring war protests in this country since the 1930s. If you've ever seen a Chinese-govt. sanctioned "protest" you'd probably feel differently about this. I've been to several here in the US. The one common thing is the government official with the camera, taking pictures of who's there and who isn't and the five or six other govt. officials taking notes on who's being the most patriotic. The citizens who show up do so for the same reasons that Iraqis cheered Saddam Hussein during parades. |
You've seen "Chinese-govt.-sanctioned" demonstrations in the US - which is interesting if true - where people show up because they'll be shot if they don't?
And the "100 or so students" (quoth Mastrap) who showed up in Beijing? They all showed up because they'd be shot or tortured if not? What about the 1.2 billion that weren't there?
It's nice to see that your standard response, triggered by the words "China" and "state-sanctioned" is the same, regardless of whether it actually applies or not.
You know that's just how "prejudice" is defined, right?
-s*
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Originally posted by Spheric Harlot: You're not making sense. You've seen "Chinese-govt.-sanctioned" demonstrations in the US - which is interesting if true - where people show up because they'll be shot if they don't? And the "100 or so students" (quoth Mastrap) who showed up in Beijing? They all showed up because they'd be shot or tortured if not? What about the 1.2 billion that weren't there? It's nice to see that your standard response, triggered by the words "China" and "state-sanctioned" is the same, regardless of whether it actually applies or not. You know that's just how "prejudice" is defined, right? -s* |
Yes, I've seen Chinese state-sanctioned protests here in the US where the government of China organized the protests and checked to make sure that the citizens of China who were nearby (here in the US) actually showed up to protest, here in the US. Those were, as I may have mentioned, here in the US. Embassy guys taking pictures and everyone straining to be enthusiastic. Oh, and they occurred right here in the US.
I've seen it on several occasions, most notably when the missiles hit the Chinese embassy a couple years ago. "Shot" is extreme, but the long term effect on their opportunities and family back home isn't something to joke around about. I've also had several Chinese students explain this to me. As you can imagine, it's a scary thing to witness.
As for communists sponsoring war protests now, here, the World Workers Party and other communist organizations have been sponsoring war protests in the US since the 1930s. They're sponsoring some of the recent ones. And the WTO stuff too, and the Anti-Capitalist stuff.
What this has to do with "prejudice" I don't know, I'm just reporting things I've seen first hand, in the first case, and well-known, self-admitted facts in the second.
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Originally posted by Mastrap: China, the world's most populous state, has held its first, officially sanctioned anti-war protest - although the 100 or so students who gathered at Beijing University may represent the smallest protest in any world capital to date. |
Just saw a pic here:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=sto...ml&e=5&ncid=996
Looks like students of many nationalities. No wonder there are so few.