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MacNN Software 22 posts Apr 7, 2003 to Apr 7, 2003
The three you mentioned are spinners, not propagandists.

Heck, calling Alan Colmes a spinner is pushing it. I think he lets the DNC do his thinking for him. (Yes, I'm also convinced that Hannity lets the RNC do his thinking.)

And they aren't that ugly.
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Originally posted by Kitschy:


Susan Estrich...ugh...


Damn! She should sue her doctor for going crazy with the botox like that. I'm suprised she's not paralyzed from the neck down.
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Originally posted by malvolio:
Hmmm, so Rush Limbaugh looks good to you?


Rush is a spinner, not a propagandist. Same thing goes for Susan Estritch

Ann Coulter sure looks a lot better than Michael Moore.
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Originally posted by BasketofPuppies:
Rush is a spinner, not a propagandist. Same thing goes for Susan Estritch

Ann Coulter sure looks a lot better than Michael Moore.


Could you define "spin" vs "propoganda" for me? I'm a little fuzzy. I though spin was a tool of propaganda....(serious question, not baiting)
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Originally posted by BasketofPuppies:

Ann Coulter sure looks a lot better than Michael Moore.


Ann Coulter looks like a famine victim. But I suppose some people like the "skinny, blonde, borderline anorexic" look!

OAW
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Originally posted by simonjames:
Wow - lets judge people not on their intelligence or stance but on how they look! Lets have a beauty contest!

This just goes to show how shallow some people can be.


This is a humor thread. Anyone taking it seriously will be shot.
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Originally posted by BasketofPuppies:
Spin means putting the facts in the best light for your side and/or the worst light for your opposition.

With propaganda, you make things up in addition to spinning.

So tell me, exactly what did Chomsky and/or Moore make up?
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Originally posted by malvolio:
So tell me, exactly what did Chomsky and/or Moore make up?


We've discussed these things many times on the MacNN Forums before. I am not retyping what I've typed many times before.

Go to Salon, a liberal political Internet magazine, and search for Moore and Chomsky. You'll find plenty of complaints from its liberal editors about what the two have written and said.
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Originally posted by BasketofPuppies:
Go to Salon, a liberal political Internet magazine, and search for Moore and Chomsky. You'll find plenty of complaints from its liberal editors about what the two have written and said.

Salon is a joke. From what I was able to read there without paying their $35 membership fee, they had plenty of complaints (many seeming motivated by jealousy), but no hard evidence.
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Originally posted by malvolio:
Salon is a joke. From what I was able to read there without paying their $35 membership fee, they had plenty of complaints (many seeming motivated by jealousy), but no hard evidence.


Agreed. 2 years ago they had a good thing going. Now it is just crap. Not that it really matters though, they will probably be out of biz by the end of the year.
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Originally posted by BasketofPuppies:
Spin means putting the facts in the best light for your side and/or the worst light for your opposition.

With propaganda, you make things up in addition to spinning.

Although I agree with what I think you were trying to say, I'm not sure that's the best choice of words, with respect to propagandists.

I'd put it more like this. Spinners report the facts, but manipulate the wording of those facts as suits their particular agenda. Most reporters are spinners, one way or another.

Propagandists, on the other hand, write original material. They also tend to engage in spinning while backing up their materials, but that's not their main focus. Most essayists fall under this category.
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