Concept headless iMac/eMac (w/ photo)

It'll never happen. You guys take it too seriously.

Woops I think I got distracted that should say a flat clear base.

What? Did you see something shiny?

No it was my mom yelling at me to move a dresser downstairs and into my room which is stupid because I don't NEED another one I already have drawers that I'm not using, and I don't have the room for one!

Don't mind me pimping my Poll: Small Form Factor G5 thread in the Power Mac forum.

J

It is basically a Cube though isn't it? I'd like to know one thing though. How do you load a CD or DVD Vertically? Unless there's something that grabs the top and bottom of the media I just don't get that I've seen DVD-RAM drives that have something like this though. Most systems I've used rely on the media (CD/DVD) laying flat on a tray. Unless you want to make a slot loading unit. That might work. I'm just thinking in terms of gravity here.

MikeM

A digital to analog conversion must be made somewhere along the line you know. There is not an appreciable difference in having the conversion happen on the video card (keep in mind that the signal is digital till just before it reaches the connector itself...) or to a converter just outside of the computer connected through DVI. I use a Powermac G4 on a 21" Trinitron Sony. I don't think I'm losing any quality or causing any distortion by doing that as opposed to a video card with VGA or a flat panel.




yes... the obvious reasons being there is little need for it on the Mac. Yes there are certain situations that may call for it, but alot of devices use chipsets like Oxford's 922 which allows Firewire 800 and 400 in addition to USB 2.0.

The only real reason why it MIGHT make it into all future macs is just to shut up pundits who emphasis that missing buzzword and don't recommend the product for that reason.

Nothing to get riled up about. Don't let the PC pundits get to you.



yes...quaint little computers... they have room for 4 hard drive mounts and 2 optical drive mounts, and 5 PCI/AGP slots?

The drive would have to be a slot-loader to avoid the clunk-factor, but I do not imagine vertical orientation being in any way good for Superdrive DVD burning.

When Jobs introduced the iMac2, he discussed vertical drives and said that they wanted to avoid that because the drives run slower. So, I sincerely doubt that they would release a machine with a vertically oriented optical drive unless that issue could be completely resolved.

Supercrac[k] - I think you need to get a reality check. Apple are not going to release a new G3 desktop. Period. It is reasonable for them to continue using the G3 in consumer portables including perhaps some kind of tablet, if they ever decide to do that. But it ain't coming back in a desktop.

Perhaps, but considering that the vast majority of people who would buy this computer would use VGA displays, requiring an adaptor (even if it were included) would be a hassle.






You can say that all you want, but the reality is that there are an increasing number of USB 2.0 devices for consumers available.



I meant my Power Mac G4; the current Power Macs have more inside, but not by much. But considering how much larger and heavier the Power Mac is than my VAIO, Apple could be doing a better job.

The G5s have one less optical drive mount, 2 fewer hard drive mounts, and 1 fewer PCI than the G4.

I was talking about the Powermac G4. There have been more than a couple of revisions to the G4, so lets review.

MDD : 2 optical drive mounts, 4 hard drive mounts, 1 AGP, 4 PCI.
Quicksilver/Digital Audio : 1 optical drive mount, 1 zip drive mount, 4 hard drive mounts, 1 AGP, 4 PCI.
Sawtooth/Yikes/Gigabit : 1 optical drive, 1 zip drive, 3 hard drive, 1 AGP, 3 PCI.

All of the G4s use the same El Capitan enclosure with the plastic handles and the swing down side. Yours is one of those, neh?

Apple used alot of heavy plastics and a heavy frame to make the G4... partly because of aesthetics, and mainly for ease of reach to components. On top of that, they realized that their customers, especially in digital video, want lots of room to grow internally. With 250GB ATA drives and maybe another ATA controller, the late model G4 (in fact all of the G4s) can have a total internal storage of 1 TB. That's a spicy meat ball.

4 hard drive mounts set the G4 apart from most PCs you'd care to compare it to. Sadly, the G5 is a step back from that with only enough space for 500 GB of serial ata drives... a quirk.

Mine is a Yikes! (400), which has four PCI slots and no AGP slots.

Anyway, yes, my VAIO has more inside despite being significantly smaller and weighing half as much as my Power Mac.

But it cost a lot more. Which explains why it didn't sell.

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I hate to bring this thread back to life, but I just wanted to let others see the xMac II design.



xMac

Cost Saving Measures:

- There is a USB and Firewire connection located in the same spring loaded drive door that opens for the combo drive.

This system uses the eMac motherboard (no need to spend R&D cash on this system).

- VGA only out (this may be tricky as Apple would want DVI so people could buy their flat screens).

- Although the front cover is a nice piece of "brushed aluminum" the back is an inexpensive plastic (think low end DVD players).

- The units are stackable.

- Speakers are not included with this unit (naturally you can upgrade to the $59 Apple Pro Speakers).

- These can hold two hard drives.

$649.00
1GHz PowerPC G4
256MB SDRAM
40GB Ultra ATA drive
Combo drive

$849.00
1GHz PowerPC G4
256MB SDRAM
80GB Ultra ATA drive
SuperDrive

Nice but I don't at all see the point now that the iMac comes with 15' 17' and 20' screens.

Don't tell me someone who wants a 23' LCD screen wants the power of an iMac to go with it

SHoS

I'm with your regarding a 15" iMac, but it's really meant for those people that:

a) already have a monitor (like when you have a 2 year old computer with a nice 19" - 21" CRT that still has life in it)

b) can't afford a flat screen (or even an eMac)

c) are looking for an inexpensive backup/server solution

d) wealthier people that have a PC and want to "try out" a Mac.

e) people that can't stand the design of the eMac and iMac.

f) cheap bastards

So you have cables that get in the way of the drive tray, and a drive tray that gets in the way of the ports?

Otherwise, I do like the look of the xMac though.

b) The CRT in the emac must add about $100 to the price.

e) You really think that headless iMac with a 2 year old CRT monitor would look better then an eMac?

f) You must know by now that Apple is not the least bit interested in the cheap bastard market. Those fools can enjoy their $299 Wal-Mart PC.

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Idiot!

Retarded. So for $140 more you can have a 17' monitor and a combo drive? Oh I forgot it is built in so it must suck?

Ummm, it is now that the new hardware is out... look at the date. This was in July of last year...