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What has your response been from Windows Users about iTMS

What has your response been from Windows Users about iTMS Troubleshooting 50 posts Oct 20, 2003 — Oct 21, 2003
EDIT: Wow I almost looked like an idiot there... glad you like it Spliffdaddy - i almost responded too quick to your 97% CPU utilization comment.
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Originally posted by Steve:
Let him be. WMP is a great mp3 player and organizer, and basically functions like iTunes. It's also less buggy, has more plugins and support for more formats.
ROFL

good one!
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Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:

(note: self proclaimed anti-Mac troll wastes post #3000 by extolling the virtues of Apple software. Subsequently hangs self)



i for all you peeps that are new...boy did this guy cause uproar in like 2001-2002

but anyway, towards the end more and more of what he said was less troll like
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Originally posted by m a d r a:
this prominent windoze user seems to really appreciate apple's efforts ....

prominent windoze user hears about itunes
quite bizarre. i watched that clip for the first time in ages, only yesterday, then you go and bring it up

friggin' gypsy mind trick, or what! wanna buy any pegs, daaave?
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Originally posted by philzilla:
[B]quite bizarre. i watched that clip for the first time in ages, only yesterday, then you go and bring it up.....


it still cracks me up every time. even tho' i must have seen it a hundred times.
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Originally posted by thePurpleGiant:
My with PC loving friend:

Him: Hey I downloaded Apple's MP3 player you said was good.

Me: oh yeah, you like?

Him: Doesn't play WMA - or am I doing something wrong? None of my music works.

Me: No doesn't support WMA - but it does MP3, AIF and WAV. Even better, it supports AAC which is much better than WMA.

Him: Oh yeah, but I have ripped all my CD's in WMA.

Me: Well - it will save you space if you re-rip them using iTunes and they will sound better.

Him: Meh, I've got too many CD's, WMP9 works well for me. iTunes would be good if it did WMA.


He's right you know (the windows user). No WMA might keep a lot of people away. Even my CDs at work are ripped in WMA. WMA support would destroy WMP9.

I don't even know how to make WMP9 rip in MP3.
So spliff, roll one up, crank up the volume and check out the visualizer, full screen.

Enjoy!!

NB: there is some way to set favorite sequences using the numeric keypad, but I forget how. On my mac '0' starts the visuals at the beginning (the orange circley things).

Your mileage may vary.
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Originally posted by Apple Pro Underwear:
i for all you peeps that are new...boy did this guy [Spliffdaddy] cause uproar in like 2001-2002

but anyway, towards the end more and more of what he said was less troll like
It needs to be said: Apple has come a LONG way since then.

It's becoming increasingly difficult to have any beef with Apple - other than the lack of G5 Powerbooks.

-s*
lol I remember those days. :grin: uproar indeed lol

Him and kelly hogan trashed the place.
There's something very wrong here!

iTunes.exe?
Windows widgets?
Ugly jagged text?

ah-eeee!

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Did it take that long to 'normalize' the volume level of 1700 mp3s??


That's what was eating up your processor resources. I experienced the same situation when first adding and 'normalizing' about 900 files - my Win2K P4 2.4GHz work box ground to a veritable halt. Once that task was complete, things returned to the version of normalicy I've grown accustomed to with Windows.
If I had loaded 5,000 tracks instead of 1,700 - I might never have liked iTunes. Seriously. Eight minutes is twice as much evaluation time as I usually devote to 'new' applications. There's simply no way I would have struggled through 20 minutes, or God forbid, an HOUR. I don't think anybody would have a favorable opinion of iTunes if they used it during 'sound level normalization'. Heck, try it yourself. I bet the word 'snappy' doesn't come to mind, to say the least. Apple sincerely needs to mention the (temporary) penalty for enabling that 'Sound Check' box. Better still, they could lower the priority of the process that scans the media and sets the average sound level. That would allow most other tasks (those set to normal priority) to override the priority of the 'normalization process' - which would eliminate the sluggishness at the expense of taking longer to 'normalize'. In other words, the negative effects of 'normalization' would be gone - but you would have to wait longer (initially) for the benefits.

Again, iTunes for Windows is very impressive. It HAD to be, really. Even if took forever to create it.

But if I were Apple I would work on that 'normalization' issue. For example, my Sony OpenMG Jukebox software locks the window until sound level normalization is complete. While this seems a worse solution than allowing the user to continue doing other tasks during normalization - it certainly prevents the user from perceiving that the software is slow and laggy.
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Originally posted by Zimphire:
I have heard good things about it from regular computer users.

Now the Windows zealots are all "OMG I WILL NEVER DOWNLOAD THAT THING OMG~ I AM STICKING WITH WINAMP2.0!!!!! $


no no no

It's WinAmp 2.71

Anything more current loses the ability to change the font size manually.

Just to let you know what you're up against...

I have my WinAmp set up to accept voice commands. I can say the name of the song and it plays it. Courtesy of the 'voodoo voice' plug-in (freeware).

I have my WinAmp set up to accept infrared signals from a remote control. Courtesy of 'Win Lirc' plug-in and a $6 Gateway-sourced remote control.

I have my WinAmp set up to accept input from touchpanel monitor. Re-skinned for larger (finger-sized) text, sliders, and buttons.

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Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
If I had loaded 5,000 tracks instead of 1,700 - I might never have liked iTunes. Seriously. Eight minutes is twice as much evaluation time as I usually devote to 'new' applications. There's simply no way I would have struggled through 20 minutes, or God forbid, an HOUR. I don't think anybody would have a favorable opinion of iTunes if they used it during 'sound level normalization'. Heck, try it yourself. I bet the word 'snappy' doesn't come to mind, to say the least. Apple sincerely needs to mention the (temporary) penalty for enabling that 'Sound Check' box. Better still, they could lower the priority of the process that scans the media and sets the average sound level. That would allow most other tasks (those set to normal priority) to override the priority of the 'normalization process' - which would eliminate the sluggishness at the expense of taking longer to 'normalize'. In other words, the negative effects of 'normalization' would be gone - but you would have to wait longer (initially) for the benefits.

Again, iTunes for Windows is very impressive. It HAD to be, really. Even if took forever to create it.

But if I were Apple I would work on that 'normalization' issue. For example, my Sony OpenMG Jukebox software locks the window until sound level normalization is complete. While this seems a worse solution than allowing the user to continue doing other tasks during normalization - it certainly prevents the user from perceiving that the software is slow and laggy.

So I tried it with 4+ GB of files. Several hundred, copied from my DVD MP3 disc to iTunes directory of my Win 2000 P4 1.6.

It took about 45 minutes to copy the files, organize them, and do the sound check.

The machine slowed to a crawl, but I could still surf. 25-99% CPU utilization.

After it finished all that it's using <5 % of CPU time.

I'm tempted to convert my iPod from a Mac one to a Windows iPod. Almost...
Same here. I'm thinking about making my iPod a Windows-based drive. Dealing with XPlay on Windows is a chore. It works, but I keep having to rebuild the iPod database which wipes out my playlists on the iPod (stupid....ever hear of BACKING UP WHAT YOU'RE OVERWRITING?).

I love iTunes, BUT, on XP Pro, when you lock your computer it stops playing. VERY annoying when listening to internet radio.

Mike
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Originally posted by starman:
Same here. I'm thinking about making my iPod a Windows-based drive. Dealing with XPlay on Windows is a chore. It works, but I keep having to rebuild the iPod database which wipes out my playlists on the iPod (stupid....ever hear of BACKING UP WHAT YOU'RE OVERWRITING?).
I use MacDrive.

My problem is all my music is on a PC, and iTunes Windows doesn't work with a Mac iPod, even with MacDrive. What I do is backup the music to an external drive, and then load the music from my Mac's iTunes.

I keep it Mac because I like using iSync for my contacts (instead of using something like ephod on the PC), and because data transfer on MacDrive XP is better than FAT32 on OS X.
I'm thinking it's only a matter of time before your Mac iPod will work on a Windows peecee. The solution might not come from Apple - but I believe it will come. The number of folks tinkering with iTunes just increased fifty-fold.
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Originally posted by m a d r a:
this prominent windoze user seems to really appreciate apple's efforts ....

prominent windoze user hears about itunes


Whoa. That freaked me out.
I wish the sound wasnt so flat and hollow with the windows version of iTunes. Alot of people are having this problem, but not everybody, so it's probably some sort of hardware issue.

I cant stand listening to iTunes for more than a half hour with the sound issues, it really makes my ears hurt. If they fixed this problem then iTunes would be my full time player. Until then I'll have to stick with WMP9 and the wonderful iTunes skin for it - which makes the two players virtually identical


Chris
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