You have asked some difficult questions. My opinion (as somebody you could lump in as being a liberal, although I have no particular loyalty to the party) is this: Every action t…

Quote: Originally Posted by besson3c What the police do or do not do is pretty publicly accessible information - No, that's not true. Specifics about how law enforcement…

I guess to answer your question Simey, I don't really know what we should be doing. I want to start looking at these decisions from a very objective position: what will it gain us?…

Quote: Originally Posted by besson3c I want to be able to do this without being accused of siding with the terrorists or being unpatriotic or any of that other sort of crap. …

Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey No, that's not true. Specifics about how law enforcement cracks complex crimes such as money laundering are highly restricted -- for t…

Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey You want to do what? What is the "this" in that sentence? If you mean "look at this in an objective way" that is a non-answer. The…

Quote: Originally Posted by besson3c That is a very leading question. I don't think the question needs to be framed in the way you have. See, and where these conversations brea…

Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey Likewise, individual prosecutions are kept confidential. Even defense lawyers don't have access to that information. Grand jury delib…

Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey You just said that investigations into money laundering should be kept secret. That is precisely what the New York Times published thi…

Simey: there are all complicated issues, and issues which we are probably lacking a significant amount of data on to formulate an opinion we can both feel more confident about. I…

Quote: Originally Posted by besson3c I'm not resistant to law enforcement in general, but I think we have setup clear boundaries with our internal police force, more-or-less. Co…

Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey Nobody is being tortured in an investigation into money laundering. Please stick to the subject at hand. Was the New York Times right…

Quote: Originally Posted by besson3c Simey: there are all complicated issues, and issues which we are probably lacking a significant amount of data on to formulate an opinion we…

Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey Asking you an awkward question about an issue you would rather duck is not "slimy political rhetoric." However, trying to change the s…

Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey Nobody is being tortured in an investigation into money laundering. Please stick to the subject at hand. Was the New York Times right…

Quote: Originally Posted by besson3c I wasn't addressing anything you said, I was speaking in general terms. I'm not avoiding any issue. I got the impression your question was…

Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey This is frustrating because you keep changing the subject. I set the question up as discussing the fact that liberals in general seem …

Quote: Originally Posted by besson3c Why don't you post your article so that I can have a fighting chance to formulate an opinion? How old are you? www.nytimes.com. Front p…

Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey How old are you? www.nytimes.com. Front page, wednesday or Thursday. What's with the attacks Simey? If you are actually looking…

Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey How old are you? www.nytimes.com. Front page, wednesday or Thursday. Ditto www.washingtonpost.com and www.latimes.com. Maybe you h…

Quote: Originally Posted by besson3c What's with the attacks Simey? If you are actually looking for honest discussion on this, why not provide the courtesy of the article in que…

Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey It's like asking your mother to get up and get you a glass of milk. At some point, mother is going to say "go get your own damned milk…

Quote: Originally Posted by Busemann So you've taken the time to write seven long posts filled with verbal masturbation, yet you get rude and upset when people ask for a link to…

Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey So liberals, please help me out. Does the New York Times speak for you? Do you wish to condemn their position? And most importantly,…

Quote: Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey But since you are too lazy, here, wade through these 5 pages. NY Times Thanks for the link... I think that an independent securi…