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My Color Classic soon to be mystic?

· 68k · 41 posts · Jul 7, 2009 — Jul 22, 2009 View original thread ↗

#31 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 - 13:56

First things first, I'd probably think about removing anything that isn't standard, such as:

- SuperClock! (I've never had any problems with it, but there's a first time for everything)

- DLS (whatever it is)

- ColorSync Profile

- ColorSync

- System 7 Tuner (If this is the extension I'm thinking of, you shouldn't even need it for 7.1 anyway, IIRC its only for 7.0)

- all the Ethernet extensions (unless you have an ethernet card)

- Clipping Extension

- Dragging Enabler

- Billminder

- Fax Monitor

- Fax Print

- CP Scheduler Extension

Don't delete anything, just put it all in a folder named something such as "Disabled Extensions" or whatever. That'll help narrow down the problem anyway, in case it is a rogue extension or control panel. Really though, if you can, you might be best to think about finding some media to do a reinstall, that way you can start right from the beginning.

As for that 575 Presenter thing, it sounds like a part of a video out kit designed for the LC575 - quite a few of those were made back in the day, but I'm guessing its useless for you since you probably didn't get the actual video output port that comes with it...you might want to remove it too, if it looks easy enough to remove, can you show us a pic of it? I've actually never seen one of these doodads before.

#32 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 - 14:11

Use Extensions Manager to do that, you don't have to do it manually. Or for a more thorough job (ie shows and moves things that EM doesn't show) seek ye a copy of Symbionts. Also a nice little app called InformINIT which can tell you what all those things are, before you go ripping out important workings from your system folder.

#33 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 - 15:30

Only trouble is, he's running System 7.1 - Extensions Manager didn't show up until 7.5.

#34 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 - 19:33

As for that 575 Presenter thing, it sounds like a part of a video out kit designed for the LC575

Yup:

We discussed it in general here –

viewtopic.php?t=6899

And here is the link to the manufacturers website –

http://web.archive.org/web/19990819155946/www.powerr.com/prices.html

Perhaps yours is missing the connection cable?

http://web.archive.org/web/20000525151517/http://www2.sunrem.com/sun02.w?pt=076-0699&catcode=14360

#35 Sat, 18 Jul 2009 - 05:01

Yes, sorry, presenter. I guess I should take it out because it could only cause complications. Unfortunately, it did not come with the output cable, but on a Color Classic do you really want the video coming out of the main screen because , that is probably the reason you're using a Color Classic?

I took out those control panels/extensions. DLS is a daylight savings time extension. Much faster startup time! Will try more trials

#36 Sat, 18 Jul 2009 - 17:34

I guess I should take it out because it could only cause complications. Unfortunately, it did not come with the output cable, but on a Color Classic do you really want the video coming out of the main screen because , that is probably the reason you're using a Color Classic?

Here is the link to a current Power R auction coincidentally for the 575. For a mere $87 it can be yours! LOL

I would agree the main point of using the CC is for the small screen experience. However, if you actually use it, then at some point having a larger external screen (even if it just mirrors the CC) would be worth having, especially if you could use an LCD screen. It is unlikely the Power R allows for screen spanning however, but you never know.

As for causing problems, there are 3 models for essentially similar logic boards, the CC, 520 & 550, and 575. Now this might merely be to accommodate different connections on each, but at least the 575 includes an additional vertical signal that the others do not indicate. Considering the 575 is built around a different CPU, has different power requirements, the Power R board could be affecting the video output to the analogue board which is not designed for those signals in the first place. After seeing one, it is a fairly easy matter to remove and replace.

#37 Sat, 18 Jul 2009 - 21:59

Here is the link to a current Power R auction coincidentally for the 575. For a mere $87 it can be yours! LOL

There are some cheaper ones in olde-mac-milt's store. I never thought very highly of kpsurplus to be honest. Just seems to have high prices + crap for info about the item(this may have changed since I last used ebay much though) Milt at least tries, but to be fair I have never bought from kp so I dunno.
Either way, olde-mac-milt generally has some useful stuff in his store now and then.

The video section currently contains two presenters, one said to be for 520 and the other 575.

http://stores.shop.ebay.com/Ye-Olde-Mac-Milt-s-Shoppe_Video-Cards-VRAM-Monitors_W0QQ_fsubZ7QQ_sidZ187219QQ_trksidZp4634Q2ec0Q2em322

#38 Sun, 19 Jul 2009 - 14:38

It is unlikely the Power R allows for screen spanning however, but you never know.

No way, no how. Mirroring only.

#39 Sun, 19 Jul 2009 - 22:06

Thanks, the CC is running very stably right now and always booting in 32-bit mode. While it would be very cool to have the display mirrored on VGA, I think I am going to simply take the 575 Presenter thing off and save my money for a full 68040 or something more useful. Now to start another thread about how to get the darn internet working!

#40 Tue, 21 Jul 2009 - 21:18

Mac128, I'd be happy to test out how the channels are working later this week. If someone could be as kind to a) let me know what type of stereo file i'm making for a system 7.1 machine B) best program run it on the CC

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Quick Time should be able to convert to any older format that will work on the version of QT that came with the CC. A .mov file should be most compatible. But I would think the earliest versions of Quick Time would have supported .WAV & .AIFF. I would not suggest Apple's SND format as I believe it is mono only.

In addition to wav/aiff, you also have the option of MP2 (MP3's predecessor), as well as IMA 4:1. These compressed formats take up considerably less HD space, so if that's a concern, these ancient, but still serviceable, formats might be worth taking a look at. MP2 at 128kb/s is quite tolerable (and at 224kb/s is downright excellent). IMA 4:1 provides less aggressive compression and lower quality. It is much less complex than MPEG-anything, however, so system resources get taxed much less (during encoding and decoding).

#41 Wed, 22 Jul 2009 - 20:30

For a nicely improved video experience you might try to snatch a PDS graphics adapter (look at our List of video cards). In combination with a commslot ethernet adapter you could use both external video (extended desktop) and network connection.

Suggestion for an extra modification: probably the onboard video of a 575 board provides better performance and colour resolution than most PDS cards, especially on a large screen. (It might turn out to be difficult to find even a monochrome card for the LC PDS.) How about redirecting the signal of a pds video card to the internal video port and using the 575 onboard video to drive an external screen?