When you ca't market on features, market mis-information???

Exactly. And Sony is now saying their new 20GB music player holds 13,000 songs (at 48Kbps). It's marketing madness.

Exactly. Dell gets their figures by cranking the compression way up past acceptable levels. Out of AAC, WMA, and Ogg, not a single one sounds good at 64kbps, and mp3 at that bitrate is just plain unacceptable except maybe for spoken-word only.

Not that like the promotion...but would you be able to use the stupid Dell brick with the song you bought from the iTMS? And what kind of ripoff of iTunes does that thing use? Is not even Mac compatible is it? Cause if it is...Dell people are way off that an Apple user is going to buy music crap from them.

Mr. Dell just admidit....YOU LOST...be a good LOSER and stick to what you do best...selling cheap ass plastic computers.

You know, the guys on Slashdot had a good idea for something to do if you have a dead iPod:

1) Buy Dell DJ
2) Send in dead iPod for $100 rebate.
3) Sell Dell DJ on eBay; expect probably $150 or so. Total profit: $50.
4) Put the $50, plus the $200 you've made back, towards a new iPod.

In essence, it should be possible to cheese the $100 Dell rebate into a sort of $50 Apple rebate.

the second i read about this dell POS i thought about cashing in my 5GB rev 1 ipod, but on second thought, screw all the trouble, i'm going to run this ipod into the ground, i've beat the crap outta of this one, never put it in a protective case, i run with it, i've dropped it 2 or 3 times, it's my baby, the battery is 2.5 years old and it sucks poo in winter, but hands down it is one of the most innovative digital devices made to date; simple, fucntional, stylish, brilliant!

and the 64kbps-7000 whatever songs = dell stupid a$$hole marketers. if you listen to music below 128 then you shouldn't be listening to music.
every song i encode is 160-192(mp3). 128 i think is acceptable, but 64? are you joking? no shame for the shameless.

dell used to be a good company .. back when i was in high school .. their products were sound .. and competitively priced .. what happened .. lol ..

my question is whether or not the dell has two times the ipod's battery life ... short of that .. eww .. ugly .. and it's a dell ..

I believe it does have a bigger battery, with the associated weight and size penalties.

Chris

Let me guess: you graduated 15 years ago ?

-t