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iMac G5 Confirmed
· Hardware · 50 posts · Jul 14, 2004 — Jul 15, 2004 View original thread ↗
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Originally posted by Socially Awkward Solo:
I am praying it is not that old computer built into the LCD crap.

Here is the article in question.
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Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
Correct. I want a G5 Cube:


I don't get it though. An iMac 17 inch costs $2400 CAN. For $300 more you can get a dual 1.8GHz G5 tower and use whatever monitor you likes. Plus you get all that drive space and PCI and RAM slots that you love so much.
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Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
Here is the article in question.


Bingo. That is why I hope all the rumors of it looking like the new displays with a Locic board in it are ********!

"We could�ve taken a hacksaw to the iMac [so it just had a flat screen], but there are some fatal flaws to this approach. We�d have had to put the logic boards parallel to the display on the back of it, which means the connectors come out on the side, making the worst kind of cable mess right in front of your eyes. And even worse, we�d also have to turn the drives on the side. Particularly optical drives -- they can�t run at full speed on the side. You have to slow them way down, then the performance goes way down -- you can never fit a SuperDrive in there. So this approach is far from great.

"Rather than glom these things together and ruin them all with a lower performance computer and a flat screen that isn�t flat anymore, why not let each element be true to itself? If the screen�s flat, let it be flat. If the computer wants to be horizontal, let it be horizontal. It�s got superior ergonomics to anything we�ve ever built -- I dare say, to anything anyone�s ever built. And it has a beauty and grace that�s going to last the next decade."
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Originally posted by MindFad:
Sizes: 17", 17", 20".
what, you don't think they'll fit a 30" on there and make it 5,000$?
I really hope Apple can manage to keep the price down. Part of the problem with the last iMac was the price was just too high. Apple has a tricky situation where they need to come out with a stunning design and also keep the price down.

It would be nice of the iMac also came with free software designed with the switcher in mind. Software that could connect to a PC and transfer important files right over to the Mac.

A good price and an easy switch could make for a growing Mac base. It's all we can hope for.
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Originally posted by fireside:
what, you don't think they'll fit a 30" on there and make it 5,000$?


I wouldn't put it past them!
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Originally posted by businezguy:
I really hope Apple can manage to keep the price down. Part of the problem with the last iMac was the price was just too high. Apple has a tricky situation where they need to come out with a stunning design and also keep the price down.


It is cuz of the DAMN LCD, small logic board and laptop RAM.

Look at the eMac, more powerful and it is a steal because of the dirt cheap CRT.
Hopefully the new iMac has a 16ms pixel response on its LCD panel.
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Originally posted by Rev-O:
Or that they claim they'll be available in September... not have them ready to go and end up spiff all the unfilled orders of disgruntled purchasers orders in late November and spiffing 'em free airmail as a bone. No, Apple would never do that (as I type at my dual 2 gig G5 delayed for weeks and weeks and weeks. But hey, I got free Airmail!)


Well we know that Apple themselves are expecting to ship the iMac beginning sometime in September, As I said before, their earnings estimates they released today factor in air freight for the iMacs for this quarter and the quarter ends in early October. It would actually be illegal to make forward looking statements that they knew wouldn't be true(or even are highly unlikely)--thats why its a lock(unless IBM really doesn't get its sh!t together--which is possible).

This is all we know: as of right now, Apple thinks its going to ship the new iMacs in quantity this quarter.

Also, I think the CFO said that memory and LCD panel component costs have fallen a lot in the last quarter--hopefully that means the iMac's will be reasonably priced. Also interesting was the reporter that asked if Apple was getting price concessions(i.e. cuts) from IBM due to the tardiness of the G5 processors. The CFO simply said, no comment. Hopefully Apple is getting a fat discount from IBM, at least until IBM get their 90nm process down.
News flash, the iMac has always been and WILL always be an all in one machine. Perhaps Apple will unveil a new G5 cube, Power Mac mini whatever, but they're not about to intro an iMac that is not an iMac.

That said, I think something in the price range of a PM G4, with a G5 in it, with similar features, and a less powerful system bus etc would do awesome.
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Originally posted by MindFad:
Hopefully the new iMac has a 16ms pixel response on its LCD panel.


What if it ends up being 17ms? Do you think it will flop?
Due... what if it had... 18? Could you live?
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Originally posted by Socially Awkward Solo:
I don't get it though. An iMac 17 inch costs $2400 CAN. For $300 more you can get a dual 1.8GHz G5 tower and use whatever monitor you likes. Plus you get all that drive space and PCI and RAM slots that you love so much.
Yeah, in other words, the G4 iMac costs way too much.

Give me a G5 Cube for under $1800.
17 inch monitors cost a lot.
The problem is Apple can give a higer mark up for AIO comps, the problem is, they don't sell unless they slash the margins. It wasn't so bad when they had CRTs. But they're trying to go with larger more expensive monitors and it doesn't work so well. They'd do better if they added the ability to use the iMac's screen with another Mac.
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Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
Yeah, in other words, the G4 iMac costs way too much.

Give me a G5 Cube for under $1800.


The cheapest no name 17 inch LCD monitor that is NON-Widescreen that I just found is $569.99 CAN and you can bet it is junk. I mean what the hell brand is "BenQ"?

Anywho, you can see why a 17 inch WIDESCREEN iMac costs so much. It is not that Apple wants em that high but with all the fanciness they cost a pretty penny.
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To that end, the company's Osaka store is succeeding.
Osaka store? What Osaka store? I was just in Osaka. Apple's retail website doesn't say anything about an Osaka store. Is the article not talking about retail stores in that sentence or what?
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Originally posted by Socially Awkward Solo:
I mean what the hell brand is "BenQ"?


a very good make, actually.
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Originally posted by Socially Awkward Solo:
The cheapest no name 17 inch LCD monitor that is NON-Widescreen that I just found is $569.99 CAN and you can bet it is junk. I mean what the hell brand is "BenQ"?

BenQ

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Originally posted by Peter:
a very good make, actually.


Not as good as BenDover though.
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Originally posted by MindFad:
Any predictions?


It'll be... ...brushed metal.
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