I have not seen either movie but I've heard of this scene in the original where the wife and candidate are talking and there's a Heinz bottle in the picture. It was just product placement at the time, but very funny now given Kerry's wife.

I have to agree with a lot of the reviews here. The movie was just so-so. I'd have skipped it and seen something else, if I would have known ahead of time.

It's rather telling when people don't understand the relevance of the current context and not very surprising when they don't like something that challenges their perspective ...

Conspiracies?
Pass the weed.

Some people make conspiracies out to be what they want them to be as well.

On both sides of the fence. Remember, believing that Saddam and Bin Laden were conspiring against the US is just another conspiracy theory without solid evidence to back it up.

Who claimed that?

No seriously.. who made that claim?

No, seriously ... that's not even worth a response since pretty much everyone on the conservative side has either claimed or implied that.

Exactly, that's the intended purpose of a conspiracy, especialy Governmental ones. Create as many ambiguous stories as possible, use smoke and mirrors to enhance it, then layer what you're really saying by covering it up with veiled hints.

That, is why so many people are now of the assumption that Iraq was a threat to the US.

In the end it's all bollocksm plain and simple. The lies and misuse of wars are sickeningly common now, and the rate at which we're seeong more powerful nations just friggin walk all over othersm is obvious to me.

Never, ever believe these wars, invasions ae about freeing people, it's all national interest. Thing is, it'll come back to those who perpetrate them, and in ways they will never have forseen.

No I think you have it confused with "Iraq had terrorists connections"

And they did. Bush himself never made any Saddam <> Osama connections either.

But you are right. This is a good example. Just not the one you are thinking it is. So many leftists have been told that Bush made said connection they believe it. When he never.

Can someone please explain the ending to me? I thought the acting was great, but the ending... it just didn't seem to add up.

:cough:"Powell: Tape Shows bin Laden 'in Partnership With Iraq'":cough:
:cough:cough:"Powell: Bin Laden Statement Confirms Iraq Link":cough:cough:

Yes, he later claimed almost a year later that there were no links, but people who want to believe in such links never hear such statements.

Of course Bush himself never made any direct connections ... he wouldn't want to be impeached if such a statment proved to be false.

*COUGH* *COUGH* IRAQ, NOT SADDAM.

The 9/11 commission made such mistakes too.

Bush claimed there was Iraq/terrorists connection (And there were)

The 9/11 commission agreed without a doubt there was. But there was no Osama <> Saddam connections. Something the Bush administration had to inform them was never said.

See you just proved my point. You took "Terrorist <> Iraq" connections and turned it into "Osama Saddam" connection because that is what you "wanted to believe"

zimphire, I'm asking you to get the **** out of my thread.

plzokthxbyeggiwin ^_^

"Saddam link to Bin Laden"

I never said it was definite. That was a "what if" So was the article. Nice try though.

My first post even said



Looking back, I was right in making that knee-jerk comment.

I wouldn't have been in this thread had you not brought my name up Einstein.

I saw the Manchurian Candidate last weekend. It was pretty good but not as good as Colateral with Tom Cruise and Jamie Fox.