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Beige G3 Build-up - Hot-swappable CF?
Hi!
I'm trying to get an iMac G3 Rev.D 333 Mhz Tray Loading working. Somebody has installed a later OS 9 for iMac DV slot loading and messed up the OS. Well, my actual problem: I'd like to copy the System Folder of another working, identical iMac, but USB sticks won't work. It recognizes them, but then shows a message (the OS is in French, I've translated it)
"The software resources needed for the use of the peripheral "[]" could not be found. Please read the peripheral's documentation to install them."
I've tried several USB sticks, from 64 MB to 4 GB. Does OS 8.6 work with Mac OS X Extended? And FAT16?
Sorry for the quite basic question, I don't remember which file types I've used on OS 8...
Did every single peripheral on OS 8 need it's own driver to be somehow installed before use??
Thanks!
Nicolas
I'm trying to get an iMac G3 Rev.D 333 Mhz Tray Loading working. Somebody has installed a later OS 9 for iMac DV slot loading and messed up the OS. Well, my actual problem: I'd like to copy the System Folder of another working, identical iMac, but USB sticks won't work. It recognizes them, but then shows a message (the OS is in French, I've translated it)
"The software resources needed for the use of the peripheral "[]" could not be found. Please read the peripheral's documentation to install them."
I've tried several USB sticks, from 64 MB to 4 GB. Does OS 8.6 work with Mac OS X Extended? And FAT16?
Sorry for the quite basic question, I don't remember which file types I've used on OS 8...
Did every single peripheral on OS 8 need it's own driver to be somehow installed before use??
Thanks!
Nicolas
I'm stuffing all sorts of things into my OS 9-dedicated Beige G3 minitower.
Right now I'm basically "wasting" a PCI slot with a USB/FW card. The only thing I need USB for is connecting my digital camera.
I know there are both CF->ATA and CF-SCSI adapters out there. But I want something I can swap in and out without having to reboot the Mac each time.
Does anybody know if any of the adapters out there will allow this?
My camera uses SD so the setup would be SD->CF adapter + CF->ATA adapter.
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As an aside, here's the current plan for the Beige. Why bother with this? Well for one, we're back to ALL beige. I had a good number of the parts when I got the G3. And little things like being able to use my tablet without a serial->USB adapter, having the correct SCSI cable for the scanner already, the chance to use a good ADB keyboard help.
CPU - 466 MHz G3
RAM - 768MB
Graphics - On-board "Rage 128 Pro PCI" w/ 6MB - Still haven't figured out if this is the rare DVD capable board or not, gotta sort out which Wings I have too.
PCI-1 - ATTO UL2D SCSI
PCI-2 - Aurora Igniter Video Capture
PCI-3 - Audiomedia III
UL2D-INT - 36GB 15K - mounted above the PS
UL2D-EXT- ? video capture drive
IDE-1M - DVD-ROM (potential future upgrade to CDRW/DVD)
IDE-1S - ATA-CF Adapter?
IDE-2M+S - Possibly a 2-drive RAID1 (software) for secure storage
On-board SCSI - Flatbed Scanner
Serial - Wacom 12"x12" tablet, Printer ?
ADB - Apple Extended Keyboard II, Kensington TurboMouse trackball
10bT Ethernet - 802.11b wireless game adapter
Right now I'm basically "wasting" a PCI slot with a USB/FW card. The only thing I need USB for is connecting my digital camera.
I know there are both CF->ATA and CF-SCSI adapters out there. But I want something I can swap in and out without having to reboot the Mac each time.
Does anybody know if any of the adapters out there will allow this?
My camera uses SD so the setup would be SD->CF adapter + CF->ATA adapter.
---------------------------------------------------------
As an aside, here's the current plan for the Beige. Why bother with this? Well for one, we're back to ALL beige. I had a good number of the parts when I got the G3. And little things like being able to use my tablet without a serial->USB adapter, having the correct SCSI cable for the scanner already, the chance to use a good ADB keyboard help.
CPU - 466 MHz G3
RAM - 768MB
Graphics - On-board "Rage 128 Pro PCI" w/ 6MB - Still haven't figured out if this is the rare DVD capable board or not, gotta sort out which Wings I have too.
PCI-1 - ATTO UL2D SCSI
PCI-2 - Aurora Igniter Video Capture
PCI-3 - Audiomedia III
UL2D-INT - 36GB 15K - mounted above the PS
UL2D-EXT- ? video capture drive
IDE-1M - DVD-ROM (potential future upgrade to CDRW/DVD)
IDE-1S - ATA-CF Adapter?
IDE-2M+S - Possibly a 2-drive RAID1 (software) for secure storage
On-board SCSI - Flatbed Scanner
Serial - Wacom 12"x12" tablet, Printer ?
ADB - Apple Extended Keyboard II, Kensington TurboMouse trackball
10bT Ethernet - 802.11b wireless game adapter
Wow, that's a pretty good setup you've got! I can see why you want to dump the USB/FireWire card...
All I can say is that you should give it a try. A brief look around the web doesn't find any Macintosh specific information, but it seems that the SCSI PC Card reader devices for Windows are all recognized as removable drives, so I would assume the same is true for the Mac. This indicates to me that the cards themselves should be hot-swappable.
I have no personal experience with this. Maybe someone else passing through does...
Good luck!
Peace,
Drew
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All I can say is that you should give it a try. A brief look around the web doesn't find any Macintosh specific information, but it seems that the SCSI PC Card reader devices for Windows are all recognized as removable drives, so I would assume the same is true for the Mac. This indicates to me that the cards themselves should be hot-swappable.
I have no personal experience with this. Maybe someone else passing through does...
Good luck!
Peace,
Drew
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OS 8.5 & 9 can read USB drives, but it needs the USB Mass Storage driver installed prior to using them.
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1265
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1265
Be wary of desktop PCMCIA adapters that use 50-pin cables and thinking that they are SCSI. From what I've seen of several of them, they are really just port extensions to get to the drive bay adapter from the card slot. When looking for a SCSI PCMCIA adapter be very sure it's a self contained unit and not someone selling something based solely off what kind of cables plug into it. Also, a PCI based PC-Card adapter can give CardBus support, which means you can use the (likely) two PC Card slots for a USB/FW card and some sort fo PC Card video capture solution. Heck, there are FW video capture devices for cheap in a lot fo places. I have no idea how good your Aurora Igniter is, but I've got an ADS FW unit that takes composite, component, S-Video, FW, etc. that I got used for under $10.
Hi!
So... is it really possible to just put the other drive in the working mac, instead of the CD-drive ?!
And then, mirror it with disk utility?
Then it's already done??
That would be great! Seems too easy!
No problem for the 10 screws, I've already disassembled some G3s.
Thank you very much!
Nicolas
So... is it really possible to just put the other drive in the working mac, instead of the CD-drive ?!
And then, mirror it with disk utility?
Then it's already done??
That would be great! Seems too easy!
No problem for the 10 screws, I've already disassembled some G3s.
Thank you very much!
Nicolas
Here, it's a PATA drive (see last pictures): https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iMac+G3+Model+M4984+Optical+Drive+Replacement/1502
So, according to you (SuperToaster), should it work? :–/
Thanks!
Nicolas
So, according to you (SuperToaster), should it work? :–/
Thanks!
Nicolas