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"ultimate" 68k machine
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Aha! The bigDevil quotes Scripture, I see ...
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Farallon (bless their dear departed Proximate little hearts) certainly made 10/100 CS II NICs, one of which I have in a 5500/G3/400, and I have been on the lookout for years for another couple.I have a couple 10/100 Asantes, maybe farallon made one too (I know it was more then one company).
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Anyone have a slotless MicroMac Quadra Cache Card that they could test Andre's idea with?
Alternatively, can anyone explain why the cache (that interacts with the CPU, a standard 40mhz 68040) would not work with an 840av? Voltage/amperage mismatch? Timing issues?
Just wondering; 128k of SRAM cache would be a nice addition...
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Alternatively, can anyone explain why the cache (that interacts with the CPU, a standard 40mhz 68040) would not work with an 840av? Voltage/amperage mismatch? Timing issues?
Just wondering; 128k of SRAM cache would be a nice addition...
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AFAIK these work by doubling the onboard oscillator. So assuming the 840av runs at 40mhz bus speed, you'll get 80mhz - which will be too hot. If you want to mod the oscillator you might have luck - but that might bugger up other things in the 840av.
The 800 it would prob. work in however.
The 800 it would prob. work in however.
Gosh darn it, now I really wish there was a realtime audio app for those.the Photoengine cards appear to scale very nicely. / the Photoshop speedup seems roughly proportional to the number of Photoengines. One thunder IV plus two Photoengine cards makes 12 DSP coprocessors and the speedup is quite noticeable.
I've recently ordered two different Quadra Overdrives from him, one being the Plus (with cache). I'll try them in various machines and report back.
You can still get overclocking kits from Output Enablers. I've used one of theirs on a 6100 with much happiness and joy.
Hi Kreats, Don't think that this is the issue. The MicroMac website describes the Quadra Cache Card as a simple cache rather than a clock doubler.
I agree. AFAIK there's no voltage difference between any of the '040 series, and the extra current consumed by a cache card should be pretty trivial. If there is an issue it would be to do with either speed or physical room (ie collision with the case or other components)
Kay then smarty trousers, what's the ultimate System 6 machine? Wanna start a thread?You people and your friggin' Quadras. No Quadra is the ultimate 68k machine because no Quadra can run System 6.)
I've never understood the allure of System 6. I liken System 6 to GEOS on a Commodore 64; primative as primative can be. A/UX, on the other hand, now that's an operating system. One with one Hell of a learning curve too, I might add. [
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GHAH! I passed on one of those about 6 months back because I didn't know what it was.READ THIS CAREFULLY. You can now buy a NuBus or PCI card for your 68040 or greater Macintosh that contains 64 processors. Yes, 64 DSP-like processors that provide the first parallel processing solution for unprecedented image processing acceleration. PowerShop accelerates Adobe Photoshop functions by as much as 1000% over a PowerMac 8100. Pricing is expected to be about $3000 exclusive of necessary on-board memory.
Found a mention of it here. The above is from here
The IIfx thrashes System 6. I don't think any other Mac even comes close.what's the ultimate System 6 machine?
Heh - I just like being the System 6 evangelist around here.
I don't blindly believe it's better - I understand that people have their own preferences.
For a stock machine of course a IIfx is king of the System 6 world, but I'm personally a big fan of the IIcx/IIci form factor, and consider either of those machines with a 50MHz '030 installed to be my 'ideal' System 6 box.
For a stock machine of course a IIfx is king of the System 6 world, but I'm personally a big fan of the IIcx/IIci form factor, and consider either of those machines with a 50MHz '030 installed to be my 'ideal' System 6 box.
Both Farallon and Asante made 10/100 NuBus ethernet cards. They are a little rare, but I've seen the Asante cards go for under $30 on Ebay. I have not been watching closely, as I have a stash of them in the attic. Asante was, at one point, clearing out discontinued items. Things like 10/100 PCI cards with ethernet cable at prices that made it worth buying the card just to get the cable.Who made a 10/100 Ethernet card for nubus machines? That's pretty cool.
If it has an external port, and Apple built it, then the SCSI speed is unenhanced SCSI, i.e. 5 MB/s top speed and usually considerably slower.SCSI on the beige G3 was deliberately designed as a low end interface to support legacy scanners, Zip drives etc. Apple had lost interest in creating their own high performance SCSI solutions, hence the market for Adaptec SCSI cards.
For the PowerBooks, assume slow SCSI. Were there any good PCMCIA or PC card SCSI adapters?
Apple did not want the support issues of dealing with folks with external SCSI chains with high performance SCSI interfaces. At least with Fast internal SCSI (8100, x500, x600) they had some control over the internal ribbon cable shipped with the machine. With external SCSI, there's no telling what folks will daisy chain together, so Apple always kept it to 5 MB/s to minimize cable length issues, and incidentally, killing performance.
All this from a friend who was once a tech support guy at Power Computing.
I've got one that I pulled out of a Duo Dock. Stuck it in my Q840. Unfortunately, NetBSD doesn't know what to do with it. (Reports as "nubus0 slot c: Fast EtherTX NuBus (Vendor: Farallon Computer, Part: PN-990) not configured" at boot.) I'd put it in my Q800, but A/UX doesn't have a clue either. I'm not sure a 68k could handle data that fast anyway...Who made a 10/100 Ethernet card for nubus machines? That's pretty cool.
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