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Outbound 125 Hardware 50 posts Sep 26, 2014 — Apr 22, 2022
That's why I said to pull the EEPROM, and program it directly. Give it the information it needs in order to see the CF since the installer can't do it.
But we don't have any idea what Outbound stored in the EEPROMs or in what format. The best one could do would be to take a similarly configured Outbound and copy its EEPROMs to the ones that go in aplmak's Outbound. As he's the first person, as far as we know, to try to install a CF card, no one else has a similarly configured Outbound.

Ultimately, we need to decode what goes into those EEPROMs. But that's a long term thing, I think.

the Outbound ROM would have to be reverse engineered. 

But we don't have any idea what Outbound stored in the EEPROMs or in what format. The best one could do would be to take a similarly configured Outbound and copy its EEPROMs to the ones that go in aplmak's Outbound. As he's the first person, as far as we know, to try to install a CF card, no one else has a similarly configured Outbound.

Ultimately, we need to decode what goes into those EEPROMs. But that's a long term thing, I think.
Ah, I getcha. I thought he format, information, etc... stored on the Outbound EEPROM's was already known.

I've got another CF adapter in today... This one is pretty good.. It's not thick on the sides so it won't bend the last 4 pins where the power comes from.. I might give it a try.. not sure yet.. Anyway it plugs right in perfectly and L's over right where the hard drive was... I had to get a female 40 pin adapter

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Well I threw in the towl again... something is definately unique and funky with these IDE drives.. I just wish I knew what those last 4 pins were for.. I think they are power... but not sure.. I just don't know.. I have taken my outbound apart like 100 times.. I put her back together today and she's staying together for a while. I give up.. I even formatted the drive as 20MB.. this card I didn't see the activity light go at all though... I even put power on it and still no activity light

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They do make CF adapters with the proper 44pin 2.5" IDE connector. This unit reminds me of the Vulcan IDE card for the Apple II series. Extremely picky about what drives it works with since it only has a few parameter tables in the ROM.

The HDD died on my Outbound, I ended up going on eBay and buying a replacement HDD of the exact same model.  I tried a slightly different model and it wouldn't recognize it.  It was weird.

If I could do an exact clone of it on a CF card do you think that might work?? Actually do a duplicate clone so it is exactly the same?? Thoughts?

I don't think it was a software thing but a hardware thing.  Maybe the ROM looks for something specific on the HDD?  I just don't know enough, sorry.

Oh.  Hmm.  Try formatting the CF card so it's exactly the same size as the original HDD.  Maybe it's looking for a size.

On those old IDE system, it's usually a size issue.

It's too bad it isn't a PC, there are a couple of old DOS programs that allow one to write directly to CMOS/EEPROM with custom settings for drives that aren't supported by old, limited systems.

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