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A little bit of Lisa . . .
. . . just a front bezel, but that's about all I could afford . . .
. . . I've seen this in a couple of search hits:
http://www.macgeek.org/museum/applelisa1/
http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?2780-My-Collection-%28PIX%29
What's a PTA Prototype?
. . . I've seen this in a couple of search hits:
http://www.macgeek.org/museum/applelisa1/
http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?2780-My-Collection-%28PIX%29
What's a PTA Prototype?
Gratz on th Lisa part.
A part a day brings you closer to building a Lisa! Wait.. Thats not right. 
Congrats on the part! I was looking through eBay and I found that part too, I passed though, as I wanted to by a complete 68k machine for my collection.
Congrats on the part! I was looking through eBay and I found that part too, I passed though, as I wanted to by a complete 68k machine for my collection.
*sings* A little bit of Lisa in the sun...
Looks that way too...though to be fair, its not as bad as *some* yellowed machines I've seen.
Looks that way too...though to be fair, its not as bad as *some* yellowed machines I've seen.
Very nice indeed! ..do you have an project in mind? :lisa2:
Dunno which way to take it, a lot will depend upon the CRT bezel curvature . . .. . . LisaQuarium could be a possibility if it's too much trouble otherwise . . . can't mod it for a ZIP.
) No way!can't mod it for a ZIP.
At least now you can buy a Lisa without the front bezel, which might be cheaper than one with the bezel. That is, if you can find one without a bezel.
Speaking of Lisas without bezels-any idea where a stray bezel came from?
The guy from whom I bought my Lisa 1 had a spare Lisa 1 bezel and a couple of NOS twiggy drives in service bags. He was planning to sell them at a later date but I never heard or read about it happening. So there may be a Lisa 1 bezel etc in a garage in Lincolnshire...
A Lisa (1) bezel would be the bomb!
I just checked, of the five packages I have in transit, guess which one is coming via United Package Smashers? :-/
I just checked, of the five packages I have in transit, guess which one is coming via United Package Smashers? :-/
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Thats the best name for UPS I have ever heard! Sucks he shipped it UPS, hopefully he added A LOT of packing material!
From tvrsales?
That must be part of Sellam's old hoard.
That must be part of Sellam's old hoard.
Who's hoard? :?: Celgen, will a 13" CRT fit in the Lisa's case? The 12" CRT looks like a tight fit. I've found a couple of Color SVGA 13" CRTs for a reasonable price.
I'm hopin' that's just schmutz on the top internal lip of the FDD access indentation and not a chip . . .
. . . otherwise I might just clean it up with a Zip mod. }
I'm hopin' that's just schmutz on the top internal lip of the FDD access indentation and not a chip . . .
. . . otherwise I might just clean it up with a Zip mod. }
Huh... I've had relatively good luck with UPS.
USPS has been good also, except they mangled one of my SE/30 logic boards recently.
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tvrsales picked up about 50+ skids of computer hardware software and documentation off a landlord whose tenant decided that selling some systems was not worth it and completely stopped paying the bills. For reasons I'll address the tenant as "Sallam" but he has a backround with CCtalk and the Vintage Computer Festivals. He was a prety big name.
Anyways, Sallam is currently trying to sue tvrsales and everyone who buys his stuff from them because they got the contents of his 10000 square foot warehouse and they're raking in a bloody fortune selling it on ebay. Lisa, Altair, Commodore PET 2001, ADM-3A....you name it, he probably had at least two.
Real tragedy.
The recess for the Lisa's CRT is 6.5" x 9.5", or 11.5" diagonally.
Interesting note about those lawsuits, can I expect a legal notice message on eBay from this eviction victim?
Thanks for the bezel specs, I figured it would be just about right for a shallow mock-up case and a 1400c based picture frame project.
Just what I need . . . yet another project . . . :
. . . especially one likely to be playing a looped slide-show of frogdesign studies/mock-ups and other subversive propaganda in the HackLab™ :lol:
Thanks for the bezel specs, I figured it would be just about right for a shallow mock-up case and a 1400c based picture frame project.
Just what I need . . . yet another project . . . :
. . . especially one likely to be playing a looped slide-show of frogdesign studies/mock-ups and other subversive propaganda in the HackLab™ :lol:
Meet Lisa_P™ [
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Just one hour after her arrival, she's had a good workout with stiff nylon brushes and copious amounts of SoftScrub w/Bleach on the messier side. Much improved, better than expected. The CRT surround and much of the back retain the original grime, but the sticker residue/marker/whatever stains didn't take too long at all to get off, that was a concern.
The wire and borked ribbon cable are attached to the PartsMo's LCD. I was very glad to find that this fit. I figured it would be a close run thing, but it fits and appropriately sized borders around each image in a slide show should give it a convincing Lisa-like, if 24bit Color, appearance behind a clear plexi CRT bubble.
I think this may work out, I'm thrilled! :approve:
] ]'>Just one hour after her arrival, she's had a good workout with stiff nylon brushes and copious amounts of SoftScrub w/Bleach on the messier side. Much improved, better than expected. The CRT surround and much of the back retain the original grime, but the sticker residue/marker/whatever stains didn't take too long at all to get off, that was a concern.
The wire and borked ribbon cable are attached to the PartsMo's LCD. I was very glad to find that this fit. I figured it would be a close run thing, but it fits and appropriately sized borders around each image in a slide show should give it a convincing Lisa-like, if 24bit Color, appearance behind a clear plexi CRT bubble.
I think this may work out, I'm thrilled! :approve:
This is a terrible idea. but what if you cut off the left 1/4 and right 1/4 (appx.) of two compacts, sat them side by side, used one side for monitor and HDD and the other for floppies and whatever else you can fit in the negative... hmm. (and then stuck the lisa front to their frankensteiner bodies) }
Wrong setback, angle, height etc. & no legs/feets.
Gotta do some figuring, there are a few ways I can fab the case and several other directions possible given the appearance of a suitable display. This one goes on the back burner, I'm just hapy to have figured out a way to give it a 24bit LCD and a way to make "matted" slides that will fit the bezel opening just so. The 1400's LCD wouldn't do nearly as well in bezel fit or bit count, the Pismo just works.
I don't intend for this to be any deeper than necessary, I might even skootch the setback and legs/feets a bit forward. It seems like the Lisa makes for a pretty darn big display piece without much under the hood to play with when you get right down to it.
Gotta do some figuring, there are a few ways I can fab the case and several other directions possible given the appearance of a suitable display. This one goes on the back burner, I'm just hapy to have figured out a way to give it a 24bit LCD and a way to make "matted" slides that will fit the bezel opening just so. The 1400's LCD wouldn't do nearly as well in bezel fit or bit count, the Pismo just works.
I don't intend for this to be any deeper than necessary, I might even skootch the setback and legs/feets a bit forward. It seems like the Lisa makes for a pretty darn big display piece without much under the hood to play with when you get right down to it.
There was a big discussion on Vintage Computer Forum. People seem to be split 50/50 on what to do. Half think no one should buy any of it and wait to see the results of the appeal, and the other half think we should buy it all up else it'll end up in the hands of gold scrappers. At the very least, if the computer hobbyists buy it up, we know the pieces will be going to people who will take good care of them.
I don't know, they both have really good arguments. Currently having to part with a lot of my own favorite computers, I know it's tough. I couldn't imagine seeing a lifetime worth of collectables be taken away. But you hafta pay your bills, man. Only thing to it.
I don't know, they both have really good arguments. Currently having to part with a lot of my own favorite computers, I know it's tough. I couldn't imagine seeing a lifetime worth of collectables be taken away. But you hafta pay your bills, man. Only thing to it.
Can't wait for the prices to come down on huge 3D printers. (Think when laser printers were $8,000, and now you can get one for $100 bucks.) It'll be a good day when we can just "print" a Lisa.
Rip Rap are relatively cheap, but the quality is... meh.
The powder based printers work the best, but are very, very expensive. A multi-axis CNC router might be a better way to go.
The powder based printers work the best, but are very, very expensive. A multi-axis CNC router might be a better way to go.
Still need all the internal components.
It is my dream to one day have a Lisa.
From what I read through from Sellam and the locals almost all of his documentation got recycled and anything that didn't immediately show up on ebay or google was also recycled.
50+ skids of stuff take up a lot of space. tvr being a recycler could get money out of it regardless of it being on ebay or not and they had a pretty large bill from the truck rentals and such. If anything, they were being nice to put the really good stuff on ebay.
Thanks, now I know what discussion oP was talking about. Canadian law must be way different from here.
If a tenant stops paying rent around here, out the stuff goes! I hear there's even a TV show about vultures hoping to find and bid on the contents of abandoned storage rooms like the one I lost when I was hospitalized the first time around.
Tough nuggies fella! :approve:
If a tenant stops paying rent around here, out the stuff goes! I hear there's even a TV show about vultures hoping to find and bid on the contents of abandoned storage rooms like the one I lost when I was hospitalized the first time around.
Tough nuggies fella! :approve:
I too dream of a Lisa and a TAM. I swore this would be the year that I get both. It's already close to April and still nothing. Hopefully the wife lets me tap the tax refund.
Then again, I just bought her a $600 dollar pair of diamond earrings for her birthday, so come my birthday in June, she won't be able to argue a $600 Lisa/TAM purchase! (I hope.)
Then again, I just bought her a $600 dollar pair of diamond earrings for her birthday, so come my birthday in June, she won't be able to argue a $600 Lisa/TAM purchase! (I hope.)
Perchance to dream . . .
Here's my dream of A little bit of Lisa . . .
. . . it's what I can afford in terms of filthy Lucre . . .
. . . and display space, no peripherals, just the slide show in all its 24bit glory and more of the collection arrayed in front/below. [] ]'>
Here's my dream of A little bit of Lisa . . .
. . . it's what I can afford in terms of filthy Lucre . . .
. . . and display space, no peripherals, just the slide show in all its 24bit glory and more of the collection arrayed in front/below. [
] ]'>
How about a vertical mount CD-ROM in that blank area?
I called TVR, my curiosity got the best of me.
Believe it or not, they still have filing cabinets filled with papers, documentation, manuals, etc. Pallets of magazines, file folders, and other papers. They still have a lot of stuff, and they aren't scrapping everything.
I live about an hour from the place. I think I'm going to give him another call, see if I can't just take all the documents for free. It's not something he can recycle for cash, and he'd save money by not having to pay his employees to toss out paper when they could be doing other things.
Anyone else live in the area? Maybe we can make a trip out of it and get as many people up there to save the papers.
Believe it or not, they still have filing cabinets filled with papers, documentation, manuals, etc. Pallets of magazines, file folders, and other papers. They still have a lot of stuff, and they aren't scrapping everything.
I live about an hour from the place. I think I'm going to give him another call, see if I can't just take all the documents for free. It's not something he can recycle for cash, and he'd save money by not having to pay his employees to toss out paper when they could be doing other things.
Anyone else live in the area? Maybe we can make a trip out of it and get as many people up there to save the papers.
Similar laws in the U.S. Once you stop paying rent, after 30 days it becomes the property of the owner of the storage unit.