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Adtron SCSI Compact Flash drive?
The behavior has become completely unpredictable.Now restarting always fails and pulling the power cord doesn't work, but doing the 4-key shutdown and then power on a variable number of times causes it to work.
Does anyone have any clue what could be causing this kind of unpredictable/erratic behavior? If the CF is formatted incorrectly would the problems be more predictable, or would it be erratic like this?
I might have to try another flash card and see if that helps with this issue.
When it fails to load, if I boot from Floppy and probe the bus, it says "Device Not Ready!" and reports a completely incorrect size for the CF installed (Something like 728 GB). Would an adapter do something like this if the CF card itself was the trouble?
Does anyone have any clue what could be causing this kind of unpredictable/erratic behavior? If the CF is formatted incorrectly would the problems be more predictable, or would it be erratic like this?
I might have to try another flash card and see if that helps with this issue.
When it fails to load, if I boot from Floppy and probe the bus, it says "Device Not Ready!" and reports a completely incorrect size for the CF installed (Something like 728 GB). Would an adapter do something like this if the CF card itself was the trouble?
Well since we are all pretty new to this card and your the one having the problems, I would guess anything is possible.
Just like finding out I need an older driver for mine if I want to use it in a 100.
Just like finding out I need an older driver for mine if I want to use it in a 100.
I can't get mine to work no matter what. It always says it can't detect capacity, or, says the device is not ready. I've tried it across different computers using different cables just to make sure, same result. :-/
I'm using the "Team" 2GB 133x card that was posted earlier.
I'm using the "Team" 2GB 133x card that was posted earlier.
Want me to send you a 32 mb card already loaded with 7.5 to try in something?
If you wouldn't mind. Maybe it's just this brand that doesn't work.
Mine is a Transcend. I am going to try a Sandisk. I'll report back after more testing.
Ok, so far, I've learned a few things that will hopefully help other people here. It appears you can't use two cards in this adapter unless they are literally identical, as in same brand, same capacity, etc... otherwise the adapter reports a medium incompatible error.
Also, apparently it is very picky about which compact flash cards it will accept. Now that I have swapped out the transcend for the sandisk all my problems have disappeared.
Also, apparently it is very picky about which compact flash cards it will accept. Now that I have swapped out the transcend for the sandisk all my problems have disappeared.
I just tried mine on a Mac. Patched HD SC 7.5.3 won't see it at all. FWB HDT Primer 1.3.1 and SCSI Director had no problem seeing it. Formatted it with HDT, installed System 7.1 and tested booting with no problems on the Macintosh Portable.
Hit an incompatible device, My RamFAST Rev. D SCSI card in the IIgs. This is a known problem since it looks like this device require arbitration. The RamFAST is one of those weird cards that doesn't assign itself a SCSI ID.
http://mirrors.apple2.org.za/apple.cabi.net/FAQs.and.INFO/SCSIandIDE/reselect.txt
http://mirrors.apple2.org.za/apple.cabi.net/FAQs.and.INFO/SCSIandIDE/reselect.txt
I stopped by WeirdStuff on my way home and grabbed a 256MB Sandisk CF card from one of their bins. That one worked! So I'm relieved to report that my adapters do work, they just don't like these Team branded 2GB CF cards. I'll ship those back to NewEgg.
I'd be interested in knowing if someone has a Sandisk or other name brand 2GB that works with their Mac.
My goal is to get 2 cards and RAID them, then stick it on an Ultra SCSI Hammer card in my IIci.
I'd be interested in knowing if someone has a Sandisk or other name brand 2GB that works with their Mac.
My goal is to get 2 cards and RAID them, then stick it on an Ultra SCSI Hammer card in my IIci.
When the original CFFA card came out for the Apple II, quite a few people had problems with off-brand cards working. They apparently didn't properly support "True IDE" mode.
NJRoadFan,
This is starting to make sense. The 16GB Kingston cards I bought didn't have a datasheet but one of the FAQs asks if you can boot and use this card as a drive or run an OS from it and the answer states this is not supported. I'm guessing it doesn't do True IDE or some mode that the Adtron is expecting. The Lexar 512MB 12x card I have does IDE/ATA and USB, auto-sensing. I'm assuming this means True IDE also. The Transcend 8GB 133x supports various True IDE modes also
If it's not specific to True IDE, it must be some mode that is needed for a Compact Flash to work in the Adtron.
This is starting to make sense. The 16GB Kingston cards I bought didn't have a datasheet but one of the FAQs asks if you can boot and use this card as a drive or run an OS from it and the answer states this is not supported. I'm guessing it doesn't do True IDE or some mode that the Adtron is expecting. The Lexar 512MB 12x card I have does IDE/ATA and USB, auto-sensing. I'm assuming this means True IDE also. The Transcend 8GB 133x supports various True IDE modes also
If it's not specific to True IDE, it must be some mode that is needed for a Compact Flash to work in the Adtron.
One way to test for "True IDE" mode is to use one of those passive CF to IDE adapters. Pretty much any machine you connect it to will chock. Has anyone tapped the serial header on these boards yet? For all we know, it could be outputting debug and status info.
I have a Team 4GB, and ADATA 2GB that work in my 1400, but that is IDE to begin with, not some odd SCSI contraption.
Also, if the 4GB card is FAT formatted on a PC then 7.6.1 will not like it. but if you make it exFAT or FAT32 or something 8.6 has no issues.(one of the two or possibly both, I forget)
And of course it works when formatted HFS.
I have also been moving files around on a 256MB Transcend card as well as a 512MB Sandisk card. My other CF cards are in other computers atm and are not available for testing... Though I never got around to testing my 266x 8GB Patriot card. *shrug*
I really have not had too many issues with CF cards except in my 286, *that* is very picky.
I've discovered another interesting tidbit that may help people that are having issues. Apparently this device needs a card that is at least 133x or has "fast initialization" otherwise the card may initialize too slowly for the Adtron, and it will report "Device Not Ready" status. I have a 75x transcend that is hit and miss because unless one hits restart at just the right time the card may not init in time and the Adtron will report a medium incompatible error.
I can say with absolute certainty that the Adtron requires SCSI arbitration.
I can say with absolute certainty that the Adtron requires SCSI arbitration.
My Lexar 12x 512MB card works like a charm so it kinda blows that theory out of the water, Paralel.
I'm pretty sure the ancient 8MB card I'm using isn't 133x (branded Canon, made by Hitachi). Its about 11 years old!
I formatted my Team 2GB cards to HFS using the ATA CF adapter on my G4. That made no difference for my adapter. Just doesn't like these particular cards.
Must be the card I have then. Piece of crap.
Like i mentioned before, my Sandisk 2GB is booting my 520c without incident.
Hate to bring back this old thread (okay, not really) but I have an update. The CF cards are really hit and miss. A while back, I bought some Transcend Industrial 8GB Ultra's and I could not get them to work even though there was evidence that the normal Transcend 8GB worked. Judging by the spec sheets, these are practically identical except for the MTBF.
I have an Amiga 1200 with a CF/IDE card adapter from AmigaKit so I gave that 4GB CF card a shot in desperation and THAT wouldn't work either.
Fast forward to today. I just bought a used camera and it came with a Sandisk Ultra II 4GB and another Sandisk Ulta II 8GB CF card. They both WORK! Te 8GB is still formatting but it's working with MicroNet.
Anyway, thought I'd give a quick update in case a future search turns up this thread.
I have an Amiga 1200 with a CF/IDE card adapter from AmigaKit so I gave that 4GB CF card a shot in desperation and THAT wouldn't work either.
Fast forward to today. I just bought a used camera and it came with a Sandisk Ultra II 4GB and another Sandisk Ulta II 8GB CF card. They both WORK! Te 8GB is still formatting but it's working with MicroNet.
Anyway, thought I'd give a quick update in case a future search turns up this thread.
I'm thinking about buying a such CF card adapter, cause 2 of my last 4 SCSI HDDs died in the past 2 weeks. What i'm curious about, is when i pull out the CF card from the SCSI adapter (already formatted, with system, etc), can i use it with a card reader on OS X 10.5 (which is able to read/write Mac Standard FS) to exchange files?