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haplain's never-ending quest
Sounds like a normal chime from any Instatower, maybe with a little more bass because of the Bose unit.
Sounds like they used the PCI PowerMac startup chime. A little higher than the G3 and newer chime, and a little lower than the AV Mac chime.
http://www.mackido.com/EasterEggs/Sounds/StartPowerMacPCI.mov'>http://www.mackido.com/EasterEggs/Sounds/StartPowerMacPCI.mov
Link from here: http://www.mackido.com/EasterEggs/
-J
http://www.mackido.com/EasterEggs/Sounds/StartPowerMacPCI.mov'>http://www.mackido.com/EasterEggs/Sounds/StartPowerMacPCI.mov
Link from here: http://www.mackido.com/EasterEggs/
-J
it probably sounds like a powermac 6500 start up chime, that is because the board is a powermac 6500 board
now if i were to of been a little more adventurous i could have desoldered the ROM slot from the proto TAM board
and soldered it onto the 6500 board and tried to use that proto ROM simm. then probably your mac chime would have became
the tam one? that is if the rom simm actually works… but i didn't want to get too crazy with that proto board ...
also that other tam proto board i fixed for you… the one that i soldered the 6400 roms onto.
what mac tone did that one make?
if it made the tam sound then that tells me something between the rom and mainboard, even though they were 6400 roms
still knew it was a tam board and played the TAM bong.
witch means probably you could make any 6400 - 6500 play the TAM bong if you were crafty enough like maybe dougg3
now if i were to of been a little more adventurous i could have desoldered the ROM slot from the proto TAM board
and soldered it onto the 6500 board and tried to use that proto ROM simm. then probably your mac chime would have became
the tam one? that is if the rom simm actually works… but i didn't want to get too crazy with that proto board ...
also that other tam proto board i fixed for you… the one that i soldered the 6400 roms onto.
what mac tone did that one make?
if it made the tam sound then that tells me something between the rom and mainboard, even though they were 6400 roms
still knew it was a tam board and played the TAM bong.
witch means probably you could make any 6400 - 6500 play the TAM bong if you were crafty enough like maybe dougg3
They both have very distinctive tones. They are entirely different from one another. The previous prototype TAM you did makes the standard TAM bong but the "new" one makes a noise I've frankly never heard, just because my experience with the 6xxx series is next to nothing.
I just need to pop that proto ROM in the TAM's to see if it works, that would be too cool if it did. For those of you who don't know what were talking about the prototype TAM boards don't have the ROM on the board but rather a chip that plugs into the board. I have 2 of those ROM chips, 1 is known to be bad, the other we're hopeful is working. More to come on that.
I wonder if the mold that this one was created from was also destroyed? I know they destroyed the stock TAM mold but this one is entirely different. Even the FATBACK is from a different mold. It has holes in the FATBACK for heat dissipation.
I just need to pop that proto ROM in the TAM's to see if it works, that would be too cool if it did. For those of you who don't know what were talking about the prototype TAM boards don't have the ROM on the board but rather a chip that plugs into the board. I have 2 of those ROM chips, 1 is known to be bad, the other we're hopeful is working. More to come on that.
I wonder if the mold that this one was created from was also destroyed? I know they destroyed the stock TAM mold but this one is entirely different. Even the FATBACK is from a different mold. It has holes in the FATBACK for heat dissipation.
well that is pretty cool the Tam bong is in the 6400 and 6500 Rom's
yeah try that simm in the working proto TAM board if you get a chance i am curious if its any good… it probably is.
yeah try that simm in the working proto TAM board if you get a chance i am curious if its any good… it probably is.
Didn't have a chance to try that ROM chip yet but I will soon.
I wanted to post the photos of this TAM FATBACK so people can see it. Anyone ever seen one like this?
It's a little hard to see, but I tried, to capture the bronze color that TAM is on the inside. You can see the difference in color on the left side of the FATBACK. It's really a unique color. I understand why it wasn't produced in the gold/bronze but it's really neat.


I wanted to post the photos of this TAM FATBACK so people can see it. Anyone ever seen one like this?
It's a little hard to see, but I tried, to capture the bronze color that TAM is on the inside. You can see the difference in color on the left side of the FATBACK. It's really a unique color. I understand why it wasn't produced in the gold/bronze but it's really neat.


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Niiiice!!!!! :approve: So, what the heck size IS IT after all? :?:
How deep is the etching/sandblasting and how the heck was that Garamond type done?
How deep is the etching/sandblasting and how the heck was that Garamond type done?
Thanks I appreciate that. 10" all around on the glass 1/2 thick. The etching is about 1/4" deep I have no idea how it's done. The etching is immaculate the then hand painted after. Even the original bulbs in it
I would guess the glass was "ground" or "routered" to depth for each area, as to change what areas catch more light the deeper it is, then normal glass etching acids in the ground out areas. Al you have to do is put tape on the glass and it won't cloud any area other than where it is painted in. An engraving machine that can do glass would be awesome for this, as it can modify depth and can map out reverse as it is set up for that.
If I was still in the Navy we had Hermes engraving machines that could engrave anything. Wish I had 5000 dollars I might just buy one. Any normal computer can run the unit. The software comes with it but it's basically just photoshop with a plug in.
If I was still in the Navy we had Hermes engraving machines that could engrave anything. Wish I had 5000 dollars I might just buy one. Any normal computer can run the unit. The software comes with it but it's basically just photoshop with a plug in.
Hap could you use a CAD program for layout? So someone who has access to CNC or an engraver could copy them? I would appreciate it.
Maybe clay on the back and press into in to measure changing depths across the design?
Maybe clay on the back and press into in to measure changing depths across the design?
Only issue with sandblasting is the variable depths across the glass. I am sure with any template any option would work. I would just like a layout, if he does one anybody can use whatever is open to them to make it.
Its colored so I guess matching that will be kind of a pain.
Its colored so I guess matching that will be kind of a pain.
yeah i wonder what they hooked up to that j21 connector
dude your collection is sick,,,
Its an...AlBook G4? :O That is truly something. :O
Prototype PowerBook 17" She's real sexy. I've got another piece coming for it that will "complete the set". I'll let you imaginations run wild with that. More to come soon...
It took me 5 hours to disassemble, clean, tidy and fix her up. It's got a 44pin IDE hd so the only one I have right now is from a TAM (2GB) I'm going to find a larger one and got 10.4 to boot onto it just fine. I'll post some more photos of it soon. Typically I'd do a 44pin to CF card adapter but with something this crazy I want to keep it "stock". The person I got it from said they are working on digging up the original HD. It also has a special OS on it too I'd like to have.
The power supply is one of a kind too. It's a model Apple never shipped and is the predecessor to the MagSafe adapter. Without the power supply this thing would never work, unless I kept another 17" PowerBook just to charge the battery. It looks like a smaller version of the 20/23/30 Aluminum Cinema Display power brick connector, about half the size.
It took me 5 hours to disassemble, clean, tidy and fix her up. It's got a 44pin IDE hd so the only one I have right now is from a TAM (2GB) I'm going to find a larger one and got 10.4 to boot onto it just fine. I'll post some more photos of it soon. Typically I'd do a 44pin to CF card adapter but with something this crazy I want to keep it "stock". The person I got it from said they are working on digging up the original HD. It also has a special OS on it too I'd like to have.
The power supply is one of a kind too. It's a model Apple never shipped and is the predecessor to the MagSafe adapter. Without the power supply this thing would never work, unless I kept another 17" PowerBook just to charge the battery. It looks like a smaller version of the 20/23/30 Aluminum Cinema Display power brick connector, about half the size.
May as well say it. I am extremely jealous!
I'm really interested in seeing that power brick! Is the end still the same as a regular AlBook?
This also proves Apple was doing clear protos until just a few years ago. Hell, they might still do them. Imagine a clear iPhone. :lol:
Complete the set, complete the set... Hmm. I'm thinking either another clear proto 12" or 15" AlBook or a clear iBook G4.
I wonder, can it can boot OS 9 outside of Classic? I bet that hard drive might be running a pre-pre-release version of 10.3 or a patched version of 10.2. Maybe even a beta build of 10.2?
Also, how thick is it? It looks like a beast!
Another great find!
PS: Could you post a closer pic of that sticker where they check off what the System Config is? I'm curious to know who they were testing out for the different parts.
This also proves Apple was doing clear protos until just a few years ago. Hell, they might still do them. Imagine a clear iPhone. :lol:
Complete the set, complete the set... Hmm. I'm thinking either another clear proto 12" or 15" AlBook or a clear iBook G4.
I wonder, can it can boot OS 9 outside of Classic? I bet that hard drive might be running a pre-pre-release version of 10.3 or a patched version of 10.2. Maybe even a beta build of 10.2?
Also, how thick is it? It looks like a beast!
Another great find!
PS: Could you post a closer pic of that sticker where they check off what the System Config is? I'm curious to know who they were testing out for the different parts.
looks kinda like a g4 macmini power plug
only there looks like more pins are in the mac mini connector.
only there looks like more pins are in the mac mini connector.
It looks like a bigger, fatter, and reversed Lightning Adapter. Will it boot with a newer OS like 10.4? That would be funny if it turned out to be a G5 PowerBook.
my 20" apple cinema display has a kinda similar connector too.
but it also has more pins then yours.


I think yours was a development laptop power plug they were thinking of using… but decided to ride out current tech… until magsafe came out in 2006
lol i am the stupid ass that ran out and bought a CORE DUO 1.8ghz Macbook Pro… when they first came out.. MY god was that thing a total piece of crap. the worst 2399.99 i ever spent!! i think it was the worst buy i have ever did in my entire life.
well no.. i take that back even though at less money the 1.8ghz G5 20" iMac @1799.99… yeah that was 2nd worst purchase i have ever done in my life. Even though it was less money it was a bigger piece of crap.
but it also has more pins then yours.


I think yours was a development laptop power plug they were thinking of using… but decided to ride out current tech… until magsafe came out in 2006
lol i am the stupid ass that ran out and bought a CORE DUO 1.8ghz Macbook Pro… when they first came out.. MY god was that thing a total piece of crap. the worst 2399.99 i ever spent!! i think it was the worst buy i have ever did in my entire life.
well no.. i take that back even though at less money the 1.8ghz G5 20" iMac @1799.99… yeah that was 2nd worst purchase i have ever done in my life. Even though it was less money it was a bigger piece of crap.
any external ports? can you hook up a external lcd monitor to it?
i know you said you were having screen issues with it...
i know you said you were having screen issues with it...
In that 2nd image you posted, it said at the top "Q51 Proto 2 Build (12/5/03)". According to wikipedia, Q51 was the codename for the G5 PowerBook!
Is this really what I think it is?!?
Is this really what I think it is?!?
Well as much as I trust wikipedia I'll have to see when I get home.
She does have every normal port for a computer of that era i.e. DVI, usb, FireWire 400/800, ethernet, modem.
As uniserver eluded to I'm having backlight issues at the moment. I've got prototype replacement parts for the computer, I'm hoping it's just the inverter board. I should have another prototype one on Thursday and a stock replacement one on Friday to test. I'll keep everyone posted, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a G5 laptop. If it is then pigs can fly }
I will be very excited if she is a G5
She does have every normal port for a computer of that era i.e. DVI, usb, FireWire 400/800, ethernet, modem.
As uniserver eluded to I'm having backlight issues at the moment. I've got prototype replacement parts for the computer, I'm hoping it's just the inverter board. I should have another prototype one on Thursday and a stock replacement one on Friday to test. I'll keep everyone posted, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a G5 laptop. If it is then pigs can fly }
I will be very excited if she is a G5
OOOOO. I'm getting excited and I don't know why. Please take as many pictures as possible. I have a feeling this might make the front page of some Apple sites. "The Mac That Never Was".














