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Local Power Mac G4 AGP Graphics!
My Beige g3 466 is fast, but I only use OS 7-9 era apps on it.
Yes, it has a Rage 128 AGP. I'm going to install Mac OS 9 as a side dish. With
a G4 and 640mb of RAM, it's going to be amazingly fast in OS 9!
a G4 and 640mb of RAM, it's going to be amazingly fast in OS 9!
After 256MB or so RAM doesn't make that much of a difference in OS 9. My beige has 768MB mostly because I can, not that I need it.
Just so you know, the Rage 128 is the most basic video card for the G4 Powermacs. While it will probably handle most things fine, it won't be blazing fast and only has 16mb of memory so if you plan to do a lot of gaming or GPU intensive applications, you'll probably be looking for an upgrade soon. The 9800 Pro Mac Edition was the fastest official chipset for these machines. There are PC cards that can be flashed, though. I have a flashed Radeon 9700 in mine and it works great, but you will need an extension cable with a mini power connector as the AGP slot doesn't provide enough power for a nice graphics card.
I don't care about graphics because my Sony Trinitron makes everything look completely terrible. My Trinitron makes all blacks look green, and everything looks wiggly when it's at all near the edges.
Time for a new monitor then, yes?
sounds that way
I'd get one if I could, but I just spent all my money on my magical G4 Server. I've gotten the wigglies to mostly go away. The green tinge was a problem with all Trinitrons in TVs and Monitors, but the recall for all of those things is long gone. The green isn't as noticeable as it was on our old performa and TV.
I haven't been able to get OS 9 on it because it came with 9.0.4 with a unique Mac OS ROM. My 9.0.4 isn't special. Sometime, I'll get a 9.1 or 9.2 CD. I'm actually keeping the monitor at a super high resolution because it makes the problems less noticable.
Get a cheap monitor from a thrift store in the meantime. The local TS by me has a 21" HP mammoth monitor with BNC connections+VGA, yours might have something similar :/
I wish I had a nearby thrift store. The only one at all close is one that only sells clothes.
really :/ My favorite is about .3 miles away and always had computer stuff.
There's CRTs (and decent ones too eg 17" or 19") literally every day on Freecycle in this part of the world, now that no-one wants them - isn't there anything in your area?
After being a member of Freecycle for a year, the only computer item was a Packard Bell with Windows 98. I quit Freecycle after that since I knew nothing
I want would ever be on it.
I want would ever be on it.
Nice!
You can get some really good stuff on there, you should have stuck at it - sometimes it can go for ages with nothing good and then suddenly a real gem appears
I'd be surprised if there's no CRTs on there, given how many there seem to be round here!
You don't see many computer things around here. I actually wanted the Packard Bell just to see what it was like, but someone claimed it a few minutes after it came up.
There actually was a 15" CRT at one point, but it was something like SuperBrand so I assumed that it was a generic junk monitor.
There actually was a 15" CRT at one point, but it was something like SuperBrand so I assumed that it was a generic junk monitor.
I know about monitor problems. I have a Dell P991 (which is Sony inside) and the blacks look purple and I can see diagonal lines on the screen. I read that a resistor soldered to the back of a board that connects to the CRT will fix it, but I have so much to do I can't find the time to do it.
Yeah it tends to be like that here too, where you have to be very quick to get anything half-decent. Chances are it wouldn't actually be that bad - it was probably good enough to run XP.
Urgh, it was probably one of those nasty old ones that's really curved, has a very low refresh rate and resolution, and is all manky and yellowed
Reminds me why I love my Apple LCDs *hugs Apple 20" studio display*Urgh, it was probably one of those nasty old ones that's really curved, has a very low refresh rate and resolution, and is all manky and yellowed
*hugs G4**hugs Apple 20" studio display*
*Hugs Acer laptop with Windows Vista*
Awwww, we're all hugging like Danny Tanner! :I
It looks like we all love our computers a bit too much
You made me throw up in my mouth :-x
You rang?
Hehe, not Bunsen Honeydew! "Oh honeydews" is what you say when you're in deep-doggie-doo-doo.
I just bought an IBM E54. It's smaller than the Trinitron, but it's much much lighter and the colors are very crisp. I got it for only 26.50 including tax! :b&w:
*hugs E54*
Almost all of my non-Apple monitors are Dell rebranded Trinitrons that I pick up from thrift stores around the area. Most of them I get have the same color problems where blacks appear green or sometimes purple. I've found that the "Color Return" feature of these monitors (I'm not sure if it's on other Trinitrons or not) works miracles.
If you open up the settings menu, go down to "Color" and choose "Color Return," most of the time, the color problems will go away automatically and a beautiful true color image is restored. You have to wait at least 30 minutes though for the monitor to warm-up before trying the color return, but the control panel will tell you when it's able to perform the color return.
Additionally, I've had good luck with creating ColorSync profiles that compensate as necessary for weird hues found in older monitors.
And finally, some of these monitors don't have built-in VGA cables. The Dell 21-incher I use as a second screen on my PowerBook is like that, and I just pulled a cheap VGA cable out of a box I had lying around of them. Bad choice. I thought the monitor was just old and getting fuzzy and blurry. When I rearranged my office, I swapped cables for a much thicker, nicer cable and all of the color and blur problems went away. The lesson here is cheap cables produce a cheap picture, so when you have a monitor with a removable cable, get a nice quality VGA cable to attach to it.
If you open up the settings menu, go down to "Color" and choose "Color Return," most of the time, the color problems will go away automatically and a beautiful true color image is restored. You have to wait at least 30 minutes though for the monitor to warm-up before trying the color return, but the control panel will tell you when it's able to perform the color return.
Additionally, I've had good luck with creating ColorSync profiles that compensate as necessary for weird hues found in older monitors.
And finally, some of these monitors don't have built-in VGA cables. The Dell 21-incher I use as a second screen on my PowerBook is like that, and I just pulled a cheap VGA cable out of a box I had lying around of them. Bad choice. I thought the monitor was just old and getting fuzzy and blurry. When I rearranged my office, I swapped cables for a much thicker, nicer cable and all of the color and blur problems went away. The lesson here is cheap cables produce a cheap picture, so when you have a monitor with a removable cable, get a nice quality VGA cable to attach to it.
I tried everything and the monitor was hopeless. There wasn't a color return option on my monitor. The cable was attatched. Every color turned green, not just black as before. I guess I would call it greenscale, very unpleasant. Our old TV and Performa Monitor both had trinitrons back when we had those. They had to be repaired.
Repairing would cost more than buying a monitor, so I bought my IBM. The place I bought it from even gave me free recycling on my green 78 pound beast. My new E54 looks very good. Its cable is permanently attatched, but the cable is high quality. IBM seems to be excellent making monitors.
Repairing would cost more than buying a monitor, so I bought my IBM. The place I bought it from even gave me free recycling on my green 78 pound beast. My new E54 looks very good. Its cable is permanently attatched, but the cable is high quality. IBM seems to be excellent making monitors.
My SONY 19" 420GS has a factory restore button that does the same thing (and you do have to wait for it to warm up for 30 minutes to get to that option).
Even if it had that option, I doubt the green would go away since that had to be repaired on two other things. Either way, the wiggly distortion would probably still be there. I saw some Dell trinitrons when I got the IBM. They were $55, much more expensive and wasn't in the mood for another trinitron.